Wagner Withdraws from GPF Gala due to Injury

[Olympia]

I just looked up hip pointer. That sounds like a very significant injury! I gather there is a possibility that this is what Ashley has, but that no one can be sure until the medical examination later this week.

 

[Dragonlady]

I was shocked she was able to continue, firstly because it looked like a painful fall, and secondly, when splat on your face like that, you usually knock all of the air out of your lungs and it takes a moment to get your breath back. She carried on, almost like it had never happened. It was a really gutsy skate. When somebody is willing to give everything they have and more to win, you know they want it bad. Ashley has made me a fan this year, more by her heart and her attitude than anything else. She is the first US Ladies' Champion since Kwan who is prepared to go out there and leave it all on the ice. Would that a few other US Ladies had that take no prisoners attitude.

It's like someone sprinkled magic dust over Ashley when that Gold Medal went around her neck last year at Nationals. Loving it.

 

[prettykeys]

I was shocked she was able to continue, firstly because it looked like a painful fall, and secondly, when splat on your face like that, you usually knock all of the air out of your lungs and it takes a moment to get your breath back.

Thirdly, (I am speaking for myself here), once you take a hard fall don't you get scared to possibly take another? And she landed that 3F that followed, nicely. She didn't pop it, or double it, or skip it. Definitely impressed me.

 

[Tonichelle]

Thirdly, (I am speaking for myself here), once you take a hard fall don't you get scared to possibly take another? And she landed that 3F that followed, nicely. She didn't pop it, or double it, or skip it. Definitely impressed me.

Lipinski said as much when she was commentating today on NBC (well I assume she recorded it as it happened). She was tight in the footwork right after the fall - but really she was still able to perform, that takes a grit and determination that we haven't seen from US ladies in forever!

 

[demarinis5]

Poor Ashley. When I watched on TV today it really magnified to me (which did not come across while watching the video on my computer) how hard a fall she sustained onto
her chest and her hip. That has to be one of the nastiest falls that I have seen in a very long time. Ashley's determination and sheer will power to continue skating
after that is amazing. Kudos to her and hoping she recovers soon.

 

[R.D.]

I still have not watched it...I don't think I can bring myself to do so. (I did briefly see a shot of her down though in the editing process - didn't look good)

I mean, I've seen some pretty brutal falls before (including the unforgettable freak accident involving the Russian pairs at SA one year with the woman being dropped on her head)...but I'm just sick of the hard luck our women have been having all this time. Maybe if/when Wagner manages to bounce back and perhaps win her medal will I perhaps go back and see what happened...the only reason I saw Czisny's epic Worlds meltdown last year was because I was watching the event live

 

[Tonichelle]

Actually I think even with the fall and the silver medal - you'd be proud ot watch her.

 

[R.D.]

Actually I think even with the fall and the silver medal - you'd be proud ot watch her.

perhaps, but if it's the fall that ends her season or halts her progress...I'd rather not see it happen

Once the curse that's hovering over the US ladies right now is FINALLY lifted I'll take a look

 

[skateluvr]

Hip pointer can be so involved. Shout out to Ashley, love you, the program, stunning dress...get well, kill at Nats and get on that podium. I want Silver at least. She is sunning to watch now.. Please God bless the poor dear. Ice is indeed slippery.

 

[Tonichelle]

perhaps, but if it's the fall that ends her season or halts her progress...I'd rather not see it happen

Once the curse that's hovering over the US ladies right now is FINALLY lifted I'll take a look

fair enough.

 

[Dragonlady]

I still have not watched it...I don't think I can bring myself to do so. (I did briefly see a shot of her down though in the editing process - didn't look good)

The fall didn't look scary and it was quick, but I know that when you slip off an edge unexpectedly like that, and fall on your face, it hurts, and it's a lot worst than it looks.

 

[mskater93]

Those typically hurt the most - lightening strike falls, that is...

 

[LRK]

He fell sick last night. Japanese officials said that they think he has some sort of stomach bug.

Thanks for the reply! I quoted you in the Injuries & Other Ills thread - I hope this is okay with you?

 

[Trewyn]

Personally, I wouldn't describe Ashley 2A fall as 'slipping off an edge'. It happened fast, of course, but as I was watching it on live tv, I KNEW that 2A was going to be underrotated the moment she got up in the air. I'm not a technical specialist at all, but I think the timing was off and/or there was just not enough speed and height. She fell because of the underrotation.
I did read on GS that it was actually the fall on the 3S that hurt her hip, which surprised me as *that* did look like a typical slightly underrotated jump results in two footing + falling off the edge. The Dutch commentator was saying on the replay "that *didn't* hurt, skaters are used to that, the fall on the 2A otoh..." But apparantly the fall on the 3S did hurt?

 

[noskates]

My son played rugby for years and had several hip pointers. I realize there are different degrees, etc. etc. but if Ashley had a hip pointer I don't believe she could have continued the way she did. They sting like $%^$ and can almost immobilize you. Let's continue to hope that she's just badly bruised and stiff and didn't want to take a chance until she was sure it was just a bruise.

 

[Tonichelle]

My son played rugby for years and had several hip pointers. I realize there are different degrees, etc. etc. but if Ashley had a hip pointer I don't believe she could have continued the way she did. They sting like $%^$ and can almost immobilize you. Let's continue to hope that she's just badly bruised and stiff and didn't want to take a chance until she was sure it was just a bruise.

I dunno in 2006 D/L had that horrible dropped lift and she finished the program but had to withdraw afterwards.

 

[carriecmu0503]

My son played rugby for years and had several hip pointers. I realize there are different degrees, etc. etc. but if Ashley had a hip pointer I don't believe she could have continued the way she did. They sting like $%^$ and can almost immobilize you. Let's continue to hope that she's just badly bruised and stiff and didn't want to take a chance until she was sure it was just a bruise.

The adrenaline of competition will often carry someone through.

 

[wallylutz]

So if Wagner has to withdraw from the U.S. Nationals as well, do you think she will get a bye to the World Championship?

 

[carriecmu0503]

So if Wagner has to withdraw from the U.S. Nationals as well, do you think she will get a bye to the World Championship?

I would be shocked if she wasn't granted one, if she withdraws from Nationals and requests a bye to Worlds. I think they would do what they did with all the other past skaters who were awarded byes- make her do a test skate with USFS appointed doctors to ensure her fitness to compete. No US lady in the past couple years has had the consistency/ international results Ashley has had.. I think she is the US' best option in trying to get three spots for the Olympics next season.

 

[macy]

no no no no no no i'm probably gonna cry if she's seriously injured. praying that this isn't anything that will keep her off the ice long term and that she will make nationals and worlds again! she's had too much success for something to stop her