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Tatiana Volosozhar & Maxim Trankov

I love all these articles posted here and I completely agree, this partnership with Tatiana and the new coaches changed Maxim's life in better so much. Tanya's too, but Maxim was so unhappy before that the change is more obvious in him. I read a couple of interviews with Oleg Vasiliev these days and in one of them he was talking how Max was so toxic to everyone in their team and only him was strong enough mentally to resist Maxim's negative influence. And after this year's Euros he said people proclaimed Tatiana and Maxim Olympic champions too early. Well, he was so wrong on all accounts. I don't even wanna imagine what Max has been through until 2010z

That's true. Vasiliev used to be very mean on him, you can read about it here or here. And when Maxim decided to walk away from them, Vasiliev was furious... I remember an interview on television at that time, where he was saying: "how can the federation follow the whims of a skater... how can they let him break such a pair" (what did he mean by "such a pair", I wonder, they were never on top). And he was doing his best to smear Max in mass media, or among the other coaches. Nina Mozer said in one of early interviews, that at first it was difficult for her to look at Maxim without prejudice, because of all things that Vasiliev was telling her when they met at the training areas etc.

Well, maybe, he had a point, when saying that Maxim was hard to deal with - but it quite obviously stemmed from how Vasiliev treated him. I mean, given what a quick-tempered and emotional person Maxim is - I can easily imagine that a harassed and ill-treated Maxim could be really unbearable in his turn...

To be honest, Max's story brings to my mind all these touching stories about wild animals, you know... :) Max as a fierce wild mustang - totally unmanageable by force, and eventually made tame by such good-hearted and patient people as Tanya and Nina Mozer... :biggrin:
 
Why so many people here think Tanya and Max are dating? I've read whole thread, and for me it looks like just PR - good story fans can discuss on forums...
This is like a joke, right? I would not enumerate all the official and non official confirmations, it would take too long, but I'll say that they're no movie or reality tv stars, I don't see why they would need to promote a fake relationship. The judges won't give them higher marks if they're a couple and I think I speak for all the fans who comment on this thread when I say that we're fans of them because of their skating and not of their relationship.

borzaya I agree with everything you said. Max himself said that 50% of what we hear about him is true, he is high tempered yes, but since the last 4 years proved very well that with the right entourage things are working perfectly than it means the main problem was with the other members of the team. Oleg Vasiliev must be biting his nails these days. The only thing I'm sorry is that Tatiana and Maxim didn't form a pair earlier, like in 2006 when Max wanted, we would have witnessed their amazing programs for a longer time.
 
This is like a joke, right? I would not enumerate all the official and non official confirmations, it would take too long, but I'll say that they're no movie or reality tv stars, I don't see why they would need to promote a fake relationship. The judges won't give them higher marks if they're a couple and I think I speak for all the fans who comment on this thread when I say that we're fans of them because of their skating and not their relationship.

borzaya I agree with everything you said. Max himself said that 50% of what we hear about him is true, he is high tempered yes, but since the last 4 years proved very well that with the right entourage things are working perfectly than it means the main problem was with the other member la of the former team. Oleg Vasiliev must be biting his nails these days. The only thing I'm sorry is that Tatiana and Maxim didn't. Form a pair earlier, like in 2006 when Max wanted, we would have witnessed their amazing programs for a longer time.

I'll completely agree with you. I doesn't give them any benefit if they'd fake a relationship. I doubt as well that they'd include so many people in a lie (Maxim's mom, Nina etc.)
Other than that it would mean her changed status on Facebook would be with someone else than Maxim. If that was the case I doubt that this "someone" would play along with that. :no:

Serves Oleg right that Maxim's successful now without him :laugh:
That time must've been so horrid for Maxim. To be proclaimed as the loser of the team all the time...
 
This is like a joke, right? I would not enumerate all the official and non official confirmations, it would take too long, but I'll say that they're no movie or reality tv stars, I don't see why they would need to promote a fake relationship. The judges won't give them higher marks if they're a couple and I think I speak for all the fans who comment on this thread when I say that we're fans of them because of their skating and not of their relationship.
No, I'm not joking. Actually all "official conformations" were just before OWG - nothing is better to make people discuss them. And about "non officiial" - nothing strange for just good friends.
And I can explaine why they need this. Their relationships are discussed in many russian forums that are very very far from sport. It's what they need concidering different shows in Russia where they are main stars.
 
Why so many people here think Tanya and Max are dating? I've read whole thread, and for me it looks like just PR - good story fans can discuss on forums...
I was hear this version about PR more than year ago...and, hm...now i just don't want to comment it. If you have eyes and you can see, you will understand everything...and PR, i would never say something like that about this people.
 
No, I'm not joking. Actually all "official conformations" were just before OWG - nothing is better to make people discuss them. And about "non officiial" - nothing strange for just good friends.
And I can explaine why they need this. Their relationships are discussed in many russian forums that are very very far from sport. It's what they need concidering different shows in Russia where they are main stars.
They are main stars because they won 2 gold medals at the Olympics not because they're dating. People don't say "let's go see the show because Volosozhar and Trankov are a couple" :rolleye: And I'm sure they don't live for the people on various forums who discuss them, that would be too sad.

I honestly think saying they're just PR is like an insult to them as skaters and as a real life couple.

Changing the subject:

New funny photo:
http://instagram.com/p/mXmeICOVcl/

And this one for some reason cracks me up, seeing Tatiana with all these guys, but all keeping the distance :laugh:
http://cs605916.vk.me/v605916607/46a9/_YJ9bEeQicM.jpg
 
They are main stars because they won 2 gold medals at the Olympics not because they're dating. People don't say "let's go see the show because Volosozhar and Trankov are a couple" :rolleye: And I'm sure they don't live for the people on various forums who discuss them, that would be too sad.
I honestly think saying they're just PR is like an insult to them as skaters and as a real life couple.

In all honesty I have to say that the Russian fans on vk.com for example don't really care if they're a couple. They really all love them for their skating.
If they were doing the for PR, which I really doubt they do, commentators would talk about that subject as well.
From what I know in Germany they've mentioned that twice that they're a couple off-ice.

Changing the subject:

New funny photo:
http://instagram.com/p/mXmeICOVcl/

And this one for some reason cracks me up, seeing Tatiana with all these guys, but all keeping the distance :laugh:
http://cs605916.vk.me/v605916607/46a9/_YJ9bEeQicM.jpg

Who knows who gave them the evil eye from behind the camera :laugh:
I have to say with all the pictures they post I've become a fan of Fedor as well :)
 
No, I'm not joking. Actually all "official conformations" were just before OWG - nothing is better to make people discuss them. And about "non officiial" - nothing strange for just good friends.
And I can explaine why they need this. Their relationships are discussed in many russian forums that are very very far from sport. It's what they need concidering different shows in Russia where they are main stars.

Wow, that must be the most elaborate PR campaign in the history of mankind! And the PR guys must be the most overworked people ever! Wonder who pays them their overtime? Because they must be working 24/7/365! And the company that pays them must be richer than Hollywood, for even for the Hollywood movies the PR campaigns of this kind could only be sustained for a couple of months. The V/T PR guys have been sustaining this for four years! How really tallented those PR guys must be. Not to mention that for such performances V/T should have been awarded the Oscars several times over :)

Please forgive the long joke above but I really couldn't resist to share it :).
 
In all honesty I have to say that the Russian fans on vk.com for example don't really care if they're a couple. They really all love them for their skating.
On vk.com after OWG many new fans in their fangroup had only one question - are they dating or not - even not reading rulles of group. And discussion of privat life of Tanya and Max is not allowed because Tanya, Max and some their relatives/friends are members of that group and also can read everything.
 
Wow, that must be the most elaborate PR campaign in the history of mankind! And the PR guys must be the most overworked people ever! Wonder who pays them their overtime? Because they must be working 24/7/365! And the company that pays them must be richer than Hollywood, for even for the Hollywood movies the PR campaigns of this kind could only be sustained for a couple of months. The V/T PR guys have been sustaining this for four years! How really tallented those PR guys must be. Not to mention that for such performances V/T should have been awarded the Oscars several times over

Please forgive the long joke above but I really couldn't resist to share it :).
Hahaha the best joke i ever heard:thumbsup::laugh:
So, this PR guys will be even more rich because V/T decide to continue till Olympics 2018 (i understand that they will need PR till they decide to retire or more?) ;) :laugh:
 
Maybe they'll even make a baby for PR, imagine the money coming :laugh: joking, joking

borzaya thanks for the links to the interview with Maxim. He really went through some horrible stuff before 2010, no wonder he looks so happy now, his life changed completely. Calling him an alcoholic, a loser, dumping him to training camp while his partner and their coach went to vacation and everything that happened to him is just shocking. I also really appreciate his honesty, admitting that he trained bad because of this and that reasons, this tells a lot about what kind of man he is.

:love:
http://1ul.ru/upload/content/show/VSA30_3_04_2014.jpg
 
borzaya thanks for the links to the interview with Maxim. He really went through some horrible stuff before 2010, no wonder he looks so happy now, his life changed completely. Calling him an alcoholic, a loser, dumping him to training camp while his partner and their coach went to vacation and everything that happened to him is just shocking. I also really appreciate his honesty, admitting that he trained bad because of this and that reasons, this tells a lot about what kind of man he is.

The thing that hurt him most I think was the fact that Oleg spoke badly about his father and that he wasn't allowed to visit him when he had his first heart attack.
Just asking myself at the moment why people are so cruel...:confused:


Was about to post the same picture :laugh:
He definitely told the truth when he said she's always shining. :love:
 
Wow, that must be the most elaborate PR campaign in the history of mankind! And the PR guys must be the most overworked people ever! Wonder who pays them their overtime? Because they must be working 24/7/365! And the company that pays them must be richer than Hollywood, for even for the Hollywood movies the PR campaigns of this kind could only be sustained for a couple of months. The V/T PR guys have been sustaining this for four years! How really tallented those PR guys must be. Not to mention that for such performances V/T should have been awarded the Oscars several times over :)

Please forgive the long joke above but I really couldn't resist to share it :).

Well said....
 
Eli60056!!! If its not too much to ask for... Would you be able to translate this as well??? By the way, your English is really good! Haha.... My English is usually filled with grammatical errors as it is my second language too! Thanks in advance for your efforts!

Here you go...

Four years ago after Vancouver there were only a few people in the world who believed that TV and MT can become Olympic champions. It was more a desperate hope than a real belief. And of the fact that they will skate together no one knew except themselves.
In them believed a small group around Valentin Piseev. Two months before the Games in 2010 Piseev made a pact with his Ukrainian colleagues about the transfer of TV. The coach of MT Oleg Vassilev calls this pact "work crime". About Valentin Piseev's long career in the Russian Figure Skating ministry there are a lot of negatives to be said. But this might be the only case where the negatives said about him are not quite correct.
Not only now but even four years ago when it was announced that TV was going to skate with MT, that seemed like a very reasonable and obvious step. Tatiana had for long and faithfully served Ukraine with no hope for a big success. Her partner on and off-ice SM has not been born for high placement in world competitions. (there follow some more accolades about Tania)
The character and morals of TV were known as golden.
The matters were somewhat more complicated when it came to her future partner. MT came from Perm when he was 15. He was placed in the group of Tatiana Moskvina. But she was at the time quite busy with another pair. From there he went out with this review: "He is not without talent, but we have seen better."
In the next years he went from one group to another with partner MM. Before her he changed partners 5 times. All that frustrated and maddened him. It was good that life did not entirely consist of figure skating and in that period Max read books that a few athletes read, watched movies, that a few athletes watch. He liked the lyrics of "Krovostok"(?!I have no idea who they are?!). All in all, the professional world used to say that Max was playing the fool. Of course today, after the fact, we say quite different. While Max's colleagues and peers dutifully fulfilled requirements of teachers, he thought, developed, lived.
In 2006 after triumphantly finishing with Totmianina-Marinin, Oleg Vassilev decided to take on MM/MT. In his words the monthly salary of MT at that time was 2300 rubles (?!I think that must be very low, almost like a minimum wage in US). It has been proven previously that Vassilev was a strong coach. With an emphasis on "strong". A general. The problem was that Maxim was not a soldier. In US in the 70s young people with his temperament protested against the Vietnam war. But in USSR at the same time such used to be jailed.

In the pair MM/MT there were some successes, but the project in general was doomed. MT according to everybody always had his own opinion on everything starting from how to make 3L and finishing with the latest law in the parliament. Vassilev had the laurels of an Olympic champion and coach. There was also MM-a girl with a modest talent but with a self-awareness of a princess on a pea. It is a wonder we did not see drama after all in the kiss and cry area. We can imagine what the difference was for Vassilev after the timid and quiet Max Marinin to meet our wild Max.
In all, putting MT in the Sochi project was risky. In that respect the choice of a coach for the new pair increased the risk further. To give the new pair to the old general meant to return MT exactly there, from which he had fled - field drills and inspections.
At first the name of Ingo Steuer was mentioned. But after AS/RS decided to stay in the sport, that idea was discarded. There was Plan B. In hindsight we must acknowledge it was a stroke of genius.
Coach Nina Mozer arrived from Kiev to Moscow. Calm, but firm, well understanding her allotted place in the Russian system, but with dignity, she used to work with juniors. In regards to fame, it is a most thankless job. The most talented of the pupils would inevitably go to more famous coaches.
But there is one advantage in her line of work-you retain the ability to be merciful, to look on the student as a living creature, not the device on earning points, you can accept a person in all their complexity.
That was the main reason why everything came together for these people. All good things came to coincide for them in that moment of time and space. Nina Mozer, finally saw her students to the end, without having to hand them over to someone else. TV found herself a partner with whom she can really fly high. And MT was the main beneficiary from that union, for he needed it the most-he found warmth, acceptance, patience and tolerance from these women. In short - a family. It became clear that there is no dishonor even in marching in line when it is for the family cause.
You saw how Nina Mozer ran to the sobbing Max. She was worn out - what to do with herself if he did not reach his goal. Thank God he won his medal. I have never seen a coach embrace an Olympic champion in such a way-she celebrated his happiness, only his, not hers. Hers would be celebrated later. The group of TV MT NMozer is the highest refutation of the soviet sports postulate that there is no place for humanity in the big sport.
 
Seriously if their relationship is/was PR, why spend every free minute with each other?
Why giving each other looks where you can basically TOUCH the love and attraction?
Why going on vacations together?
Why are there pics of them being affectionate even though they have no idea of being photographed?
Why taking both their mothers on a trip to New York?

The list goes on and on.
 
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