Elena Ilinykh & Nikita Katsalapov Split
- Thread starter ilmiom
- Start date
- Status
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2014
Is that a good idea? I mean doing the same lift she did with Nikita?
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2009
How you you look at the video?
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2014
You click on the link that hanca brought. Do you have problems with that link?
Try this one: https://vk.com/blackswanei
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2009
Thanks! They look decent lift wise. I will say on the lift that she did with Nikita-doesn't matter who lifts her up she makes that move her own
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2011
Kustarova have that very blonde couple who Skyfly will LOVE
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2014
Thanks! They look decent lift wise. I will say on the lift that she did with Nikita-doesn't matter who lifts her up she makes that move her own
No, I meant that it's not a "new" lift. Plus, what if Nikita also use that same lift with Victoria?
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2011
this proves Ilinykh has an attitude problem, when she was still with Nikita
I read was that with sisinka ? that she would scream if the practice didnt go well, even screams at Nikita, cries and makes some scene
probably one of the reasons Nikita could no longer not put up with.
a long vacation and taking pictures on instagram per training wont help
at least with Nikita, he is now in the US and is busy preparing for the next season with Victoria
That's the first thing I thought of too.No, I meant that it's not a "new" lift. Plus, what if Nikita also use that same lift with Victoria?
I kinda wish it happens. 
Like the classic scene when two actresses show up on the set wearing the same clothes. Who will change first?
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2011
No, I meant that it's not a "new" lift. Plus, what if Nikita also use that same lift with Victoria?
The lift is somewhat similar but it is not actually identical. It is clear in the clip she is doing something different. Specifically, she is standing on one leg with her other leg out to the side in a sort of half arabesque. When she did the lift with Nikita both skates stayed on him http://en.ria.ru/images/18763/35/187633572.jpg. In the new lift she is facing to the side. She and Nikita both faced forward. In point of fact, I think this lift is actually more difficult than the one she was doing with Nikita.
While similarities are clear it is a new lift.
ETA oh I actually think there are possibly 2 lifts shown... the other may be identical. But there's also a new one!
We saw S/K doing an old V/M lift that S/Z had used a variant of in their gala program - like I said before, you probably won't see either team coming up with really exciting new lifts this season because they've got so much else to work on already.
Ruslan's extension of his free leg in the new lift is fab though. And I'm interested to see if they do the old I/K lift on it's own instead of going into a rotational lift - the dismount from that position would be crazy difficult.
sky_fly I wouldn't translate what you quoted as "crazy temper", but more "fiery temperament" - the meaning is that she skates and trains with a lot of passion. It's nothing about a bad attitude.
Ruslan's extension of his free leg in the new lift is fab though. And I'm interested to see if they do the old I/K lift on it's own instead of going into a rotational lift - the dismount from that position would be crazy difficult.
sky_fly I wouldn't translate what you quoted as "crazy temper", but more "fiery temperament" - the meaning is that she skates and trains with a lot of passion. It's nothing about a bad attitude.
Ruslan's modesty and general manner is refreshing. I really hope these two develop into something extra-ordinary, they have it in them if given the chance. Excited
Good they are using twist entry, I liked that last year.:thumbsup: This can count as creative entry and Ruslan on one foot for 3 seconds (maybe spreadeagle for him can look better) Elena's attitude position possibly is not enough for difficult position but she can easily use attitude with layback or leaning out options. (For level4) Most important thing for lifts is using music (at least for me) I wish they are showing that I think they are working for short dance lift (Elena's hand movements?) and shouldn't be hard to use music of Carmen at twist action and hitting the position. We will see. Can't wait for the September!
) I wish they are showing that I think they are working for short dance lift (Elena's hand movements?) and shouldn't be hard to use music of Carmen at twist action and hitting the position. We will see. Can't wait for the September!
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2014
Yep. That's what I saw as well, two lifts. One identical of the old lift with Nikita and the other one you described.
Anyway, it's just a training. We'll have to wait and see.
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
Tulosai, that's what I saw too!!!
Ruslan is looking really good on the ice with her! ....I wish skating season were closer, hahahttp://www.tvnet.lv/online_tv/40042-rossiyskije_sbori_v_lijepaje
Kustarova / Alexeeva / Riabinina’s group trains in Liepae for the third year, coaches are satisfied with the place, because it is good place for work. They will spend here one month only (usually they spend two months here and skate at gala, but not this time). Twelve couples train here now. Ruslan says that they work on making a team with Lena, they work in gym, with ballroom dancers, a Spanish specialist came to them (Navarro). The reporter says that they usually spent eight hours in working process a day (the reported told eight hours on the ice, but I prefer to think that it is overall time with off ice preparation also). Ruslan says that they don’t have much free time, only one free day when they walk on the beach. Test skate will be in August, there will be decided what competitions the couple will compete at.
Kustarova / Alexeeva / Riabinina’s group trains in Liepae for the third year, coaches are satisfied with the place, because it is good place for work. They will spend here one month only (usually they spend two months here and skate at gala, but not this time). Twelve couples train here now. Ruslan says that they work on making a team with Lena, they work in gym, with ballroom dancers, a Spanish specialist came to them (Navarro). The reporter says that they usually spent eight hours in working process a day (the reported told eight hours on the ice, but I prefer to think that it is overall time with off ice preparation also). Ruslan says that they don’t have much free time, only one free day when they walk on the beach. Test skate will be in August, there will be decided what competitions the couple will compete at.
No, the link I posted shown exactly the same lift - the one where she stands with her blades on his chest or stomach or God knows where exactly the blades are, he is holding her and she is standing up facing completely away from him (and someone is skating there to catch her if it went wrong).
The lift where is stands on his leg facing to the side is another lift but not the one I meant. You are looking at the wrong link.
Here are links on YouTube (not only Lena and Ruslan, but also Anna & Sergei and some other dancers):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-VrcBx19Y or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbqMybxax0
http://www.liepajniekiem.lv/tv-kurz...isinas-krievijas-dailslidotaju-nometne-117404
In the second video there are seen some steps by Anna & Sergei in 0:18 – those are compulsory steps for samba for juniors next year‘s SD. It should be steps which are modified for juniors from senior Silver Samba steps – for example Krylova & Ovsiannikov Silver Samba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9x3Xf76NfI – the same steps like in Sergei & Anna’s case start in 0:40.
On 2:31 in the second video Anna and Sergei practise lift with Anna upside down (like Meryl & Charlie lift), Sergei in crouching position.
There are two different lifts made by Lena and Ruslan. In the second video just at the end in 2:44 you can see the Swan lift with entry to the lift, the middle part of the lift is shown in the first video since 1:35. This is an exact copy of the lift from Swan Lake. It doesn’t have ending yet, they probably don’t know whether to continue with rotational lift to make a combo lift or how to end it. Entry of the Swan lift with rotation around the neck looks more easily done than with Nikita, the final position with Lena forward is not sure yet, they slowly try to get Lena into that position.
The second lift starts with horizontal not full rotation made by Lena, then she puts her skate on Ruslan’s thigh, Ruslan changes holding position and Lena makes an arm movement – this really looks like SD lift. This is a new lift.
Overall there is still a lot of work to make lifts one of the highlights, but overall it looks very well. I can see that Lena tries to work in lifts, not only waits, she needs more extension and more tension into whole body, but the entry of the Swan lift and horizontal rotation in the second lift look more easy and light than when she did the same moves with Nikita last year. Ruslan keeps his upper body well, he also balances both two lifts well looking at the fact how short time they train it (like in Vika & Nikita’s case they started to learn lifts off the ice first so on ice lifts are performed shorter time then the couple skates together). And like we already wrote few times here, Ruslan can balance lifts better than Nikita. Already now he is able to keep the lift on one foot without that shaky moves of skate which very so common for Nikita while skating with Lena (Nikita also lifted Victoria on both feet during all three lifts in the gala).
I would prefer to see more videos, because lift don’t show the synchro, speed or skating skills of the couple. Step sequences and twizzles please!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-VrcBx19Y or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbqMybxax0
http://www.liepajniekiem.lv/tv-kurz...isinas-krievijas-dailslidotaju-nometne-117404
In the second video there are seen some steps by Anna & Sergei in 0:18 – those are compulsory steps for samba for juniors next year‘s SD. It should be steps which are modified for juniors from senior Silver Samba steps – for example Krylova & Ovsiannikov Silver Samba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9x3Xf76NfI – the same steps like in Sergei & Anna’s case start in 0:40.
On 2:31 in the second video Anna and Sergei practise lift with Anna upside down (like Meryl & Charlie lift), Sergei in crouching position.
There are two different lifts made by Lena and Ruslan. In the second video just at the end in 2:44 you can see the Swan lift with entry to the lift, the middle part of the lift is shown in the first video since 1:35. This is an exact copy of the lift from Swan Lake. It doesn’t have ending yet, they probably don’t know whether to continue with rotational lift to make a combo lift or how to end it. Entry of the Swan lift with rotation around the neck looks more easily done than with Nikita, the final position with Lena forward is not sure yet, they slowly try to get Lena into that position.
The second lift starts with horizontal not full rotation made by Lena, then she puts her skate on Ruslan’s thigh, Ruslan changes holding position and Lena makes an arm movement – this really looks like SD lift. This is a new lift.
Overall there is still a lot of work to make lifts one of the highlights, but overall it looks very well. I can see that Lena tries to work in lifts, not only waits, she needs more extension and more tension into whole body, but the entry of the Swan lift and horizontal rotation in the second lift look more easy and light than when she did the same moves with Nikita last year. Ruslan keeps his upper body well, he also balances both two lifts well looking at the fact how short time they train it (like in Vika & Nikita’s case they started to learn lifts off the ice first so on ice lifts are performed shorter time then the couple skates together). And like we already wrote few times here, Ruslan can balance lifts better than Nikita. Already now he is able to keep the lift on one foot without that shaky moves of skate which very so common for Nikita while skating with Lena (Nikita also lifted Victoria on both feet during all three lifts in the gala).
I would prefer to see more videos, because lift don’t show the synchro, speed or skating skills of the couple. Step sequences and twizzles please!
- Status
