Jason Brown

[Mrs. P]

Charlie White wears makeup too! Seen plenty of shots of Meryl putting it on him!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/megwantstok...bout-meryl-davis-and-imxz?sub=2904384_2276914

 

[ice coverage]

Again: I never said anything was wrong with makeup for male skaters.

If all these comments are for my "benefit," then you are preaching to the choir.

 

[StitchMonkey]

I share your assumptions, which are why I asked the question above. I do not frown upon makeup for male skaters -- hope my question did not give the false impression that I do.

I got not a hit of disapproval from you. . . just perhaps that you thought it was less wide spread than I tend to think it is. Things can be both common and uncommon and still be normal after all. You would be surprised at how many people find the idea of males on camera wearing makeup rather unlikely or that it would be obvious that they are wearing it.

I am glad that they had a men's makeup session at champs camp and that they are talking about it. It is great to normalize it and it is great that they did separate session, as the skills and techniques for each are different. I think a lot of people don't quite appreciate the difference between everyday street makeup and performance related makeup.

 

[ice coverage]

I got not a hit of disapproval from you. . . just perhaps that you thought it was less wide spread than I tend to think it is. Things can be both common and uncommon and still be normal after all. You would be surprised at how many people find the idea of males on camera wearing makeup rather unlikely or that it would be obvious that they are wearing it.

I am glad that they had a men's makeup session at champs camp and that they are talking about it. It is great to normalize it and it is great that they did separate session, as the skills and techniques for each are different. I think a lot of people don't quite appreciate the difference between everyday street makeup and performance related makeup.

OK, sorry if I misunderstood your tone. Just want to assure you that like you, I assume that makeup among male skaters is quite commonplace.
(Although you would have no way of knowing my bkgd, it so happens that for decades, I worked [in a realm completely unrelated to skating] alongside men for whom on-camera/performance makeup was part of their daily professional routine. Nothing weird about it at all, as far as I am concerned.)

 

[StitchMonkey]

OK, sorry if I misunderstood you.
(Although you would have no way of knowing my bkgd, it so happens that for decades, I worked [in a realm completely unrelated to skating] alongside men for whom on-camera/performance makeup was part of their daily professional routine. Nothing weird about it at all, as far as I am concerned.)

Ahh ok. I'd rather you clarify than think we are not on the same page. I can see how from your perspective it would come off weird.

I do somewhat wish people were more open about it, because I think it would be interesting to hear more about the differences in how they approach makeup for various purposes. I tend to think of makeup as an art from, you just use a face rather than a canvas, and the paints are a little different, but it is still art to me. So knowing more about what is done, the tricks, the environmental factors, it is all very interesting to me. Sometimes I almost feel like there are those that feel it is a polite lie to pretend men don't wear makeup. . . I just really don't get it.

 

[ice coverage]

Ahh ok. I'd rather you clarify than think we are not on the same page. I can see how from your perspective it would come off weird.

I do somewhat wish people were more open about it, because I think it would be interesting to hear more about the differences in how they approach makeup for various purposes. I tend to think of makeup as an art from, you just use a face rather than a canvas, and the paints are a little different, but it is still art to me. So knowing more about what is done, the tricks, the environmental factors, it is all very interesting to me. Sometimes I almost feel like there are those that feel it is a polite lie to pretend men don't wear makeup. . . I just really don't get it.

Make-up for men is not weird from my perspective, as I said above. We are on the same page.

Many men (incl. non-performers) seem open about/comfortable with using hair products, and giving ample attention and effort to grooming their hair. And such men are not a novelty or matter of curiosity to others, AFAIK. So maybe it is just a matter of time before the same will be true for men who use makeup.

 

[StitchMonkey]

Make-up for men is not weird from my perspective, as I said above. We are on the same page.

Many men (incl. non-performers) seem open about/comfortable with using hair products, and giving ample attention and effort to grooming their hair. And such men are not a novelty or matter of curiosity to others, AFAIK. So maybe it is just a matter of time before the same will be true for men who use makeup.

That is a good point on the hair, with luck you are right. It is nice seeing men being more allowed to do what they want rather than feeling forced to be a certain way due to tradition or whatever else reason people ring their hands in discomfort at the slightest deviation. I just have had so many people basically laugh at me when I assume men on camera are wearing makeup. . .I guess I have become somewhat defensive of it. I still think I am right, I just don't get what seems to unbelievable about it. I swear some people think that if they can't see glittery colored eye shadow, the person is clearly not wearing makeup. . .

(and the weird was my comment not the makeup BTW)

 

[Tavi...]

I believe this is the one and I agree it is a good example.

As for the neck vs face. . . I think that may be a result of a tanning bed. He wears rather plunging necklines. . . the color is pretty uniform from ears to cleavage

Long story short. Yes I do think he puts time and effort into looking good and being a complete and polished package.

Thanks yup that is the one! I'm totally incompetent with that stuff on an iphone.

I'm surprised you think tanning bed - to me it seems like lighter & a bit pinker foundation to cover slightly teenage skin. However, great minds can differ on these things!

 

[alabhaois]

This "letting his hair down" business is rather odd. Last interview I saw, JB said words to the effect that he wasn't
going to let his ponytail go anywhere-- for at least ten years. I don't like to call it a trademark, but in effect, he
owns it, he carries it off beautifully, and it's part of his grace and dignity on the ice. I just can't imagine seeing
him skate with his hair down. Why hide that lovely face?

I hope he returns to the ponytail when he does T & I.

 

[Tavi...]

I share your assumptions, which are why I asked the question above. I do not frown upon makeup for male skaters -- hope my question did not give the false impression that I do.

Just chiming in to add that I didn't think you were disapproving. Actually the reason I posted it was because I remembered a thread not that long ago about male skaters & makeup where a lot of people wondered about which ones did / didn't. I don't think JB's name came up but I know I looked because it had struck me that he looks strikingly different (at least to my eyes) in certain photos. Part of that's probably the mood he's in and / or what he's doing in a particular photo, as well as the angle he's shot from - but I do think subtle stage makeup is a factor. Anyway. Thems my thoughts.

 

[alabhaois]

Hah! The first thing the interviewer said is, "you have cat-like reflexes!"

Cat-lovers are now vindicated!!



Couldn't resist...

 

[StitchMonkey]

This "letting his hair down" business is rather odd. Last interview I saw, JB said words to the effect that he wasn't going to let his ponytail go anywhere-- for at least ten years.

I would take that more to mean he is not going to cut it. Leaving it down hardly means he has lost it or has gone anywhere. Geez I hope he takes it down to sleep and shower and such!

I think he is wise to plan to keep it, even if he leaves it down, it is still his trademark, I doubt we will see much of him with it down. If he liked it in another style I think we would see more candids of it down.

I don't think letting it down loses it, I just am not sure it is a good idea. I actually think the slicked back pony tail works rather well as it is for Juke. I am wondering if they are going to be going for sorta a musician jamming at 4 am after the bar is closed type of thing, that might work with the hair down.

Hah! The first thing the interviewer said is, "you have cat-like reflexes!"

Cat-lovers are now vindicated!!



Couldn't resist...

So I was not the only one to appreciate that line.

 

[alabhaois]

Geez I hope he takes it down to sleep and shower and such!

I didn't even think of that!! Sometimes I forget he's a regular human being.

I probably am making a fuss where none is needed. I guess I'll just have to be patient and see what Mr.
Brown pulls out of his hat next!!

 

[Tavi...]

I am actually super curious to see what kind of costume they come up with. I kinda associate men & long hair w/ 60s hippies and 70s rock gods, not so much with the blues, and not at ALL with suspenders.

As to the pony tail, I actually think it's a good idea for him to switch it up- pulling it back as tightly and as frequently as he does can cause hair loss....

 

[StitchMonkey]

I didn't even think of that!! Sometimes I forget he's a regular human being.

I probably am making a fuss where none is needed. I guess I'll just have to be patient and see what Mr.
Brown pulls out of his hat next!!

Something tells me as tight as he has that pulled, he likely is very happy to take it out at the end of the day. Many a days I have taken down a tight pony and audibly sighed in pleasure at how good it feels. Hair is heavy, his may not be crazy long, but it is clearly rather thick and I am sure it weighs plenty. I am sure he looks forward to taking it down.

He has a really good team behind him, if it is that bad *someone* of them, between his agent, Kori, Rohene, his mom the former producer, Arsino, not to mention USFSA, will tell him to change it. . . but i stand by that he should practice with it that way.

In someways I do respect him for it. This is a rather blunt way to help to establish himself as more than "the kid with the pony tail" which he does not really need to do, at least not yet. In some ways it might be easier for him to stick with what works. Rather than use his fame as a stepping stone, he is potentially showing that he does not need his reputation or fame. He may want to prove to some members of the community that he is more than just a viral star and is a legitimate skater to be respected and taken seriously. There is something gutsy about being willing to so soon give up his beloved (by fans at least) trademark. If it works, it may work well the more I think about it, it may pay off in the long run. He may manage to come out of this season looking like he does not *need* the pony tail, he may seem less committed to it out of obligation and more just liking it.

. . . but all of this is if it both looks good and works in all meanings of the word. . . and that part is still hazy in my mind.

 

[alabhaois]

Many a days I have taken down a tight pony and audibly sighed in pleasure at how good it feels.

I have long hair-- mid-back-- and I can wear a low ponytail with ease. However, when I put it into a
high ponytail-- ouch. No matter how "loosely" I bind my hair, its heaviness pulls at my scalp and the
soreness can take me days to recover from.

Ah, the vicissitudes of long hair.

Does anyone recall the Giants' pitcher Tim Lincecum? He had long hair and people were always commenting
on it. Then he went and cut it and, I swear, he now looks just like anyone else.

Lincecum before:
http://worldseriesdreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/tim-lincecum.jpg

Lincecum now:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6XzoTWapL...FBQ1iVf8pKA/s1600/Tim+Lincecum+short+hair.png


PS It's kind of ironic that I have read that some people see a resemblance to Lincecum and Jason! Not now, though

 

[StitchMonkey]

I have long hair-- mid-back-- and I can wear a low ponytail with ease. However, when I put it into a high ponytail-- ouch.
No matter how "loosely" I bind my hair, its heaviness pulls at my scalp and the soreness can take me days to recover from.

Ah, the vicissitudes of long hair.

Usually when i pull my hair back it is to keep it out of the way and I find the low ponytail, just does not cut it. . . it has creeped up higher on my head over the years. When I do anything physical, I generally put in a high pony tail, braid it, loop it in half and tie the end to the top, and it is still on my neck. But, it is better than the number of bobby pins I likely would need for a stable bun. My hair length is probably best described as 70s/80s waist length.

I can't say I had heard of the baseballer. . . not much of a normal sports person. My weird hair cut story is Shaun White. My better half always said when he used to have long hair he looked like Shaun. . . I never saw it. . . then Shaun cut his hair. . . then i saw it. It was very odd. It really can be odd how much a person can look different.

 

[karne]

I was successful! I manged to grab a clip of my kitty pawing at Jason's feet while he skates. I am very pleased with my cat and her taste in entertainment right now.

I am going to take this as a psychic kitty omen that his hair and suspenders will work well for the program. . . but I will have to get my cat's opinion when we see it.

That is SO cute.

I'm still ? about the hair being for Juke and not T&I. But oh well.

Re: the makeup: there were a couple of pictures from the Prince program last year that made me think, "Either he's got ridiculously long eyelashes, or he's got some mascara action going on there." It doesn't bother me - Plushy used to cake the stuff on when he was about Jason's age, especially if he'd been ill or injured and they wanted to disguise how pale his face was as a result. I guess Plushy doesn't do it now because he wears a beardscruffthing and I can tell you from experience makeup does NOT go on well over facial hair. (Studio makeup.)

As for me - my hair is quite wavy (especially when I've washed it and let it air dry), but thanks to work, skating, and the fact that red hair molts like crazy, I wear it in a ponytail almost permanently, to the point my hair has a permanent kink where I pull it back and I feel weird with it down (except to sleep, obviously, because I've never really been able to sleep with it tied back.)

 

[alabhaois]

It really can be odd how much a person can look different.

It really makes a huge difference. Put me down as a lover of long hair (even though it can be a pain to take care of).

 

[ice coverage]

Just chiming in to add that I didn't think you were disapproving. ...

Thx, papagena.

... My weird hair cut story is Shaun White. My better half always said when he used to have long hair he looked like Shaun. . . I never saw it. . . then Shaun cut his hair. . . then i saw it. It was very odd. It really can be odd how much a person can look different.

Glad that you mentioned Shaun White, because I think long hair and short hair suit him equally well. Very different looks, of course, but I like them both.
So if/when Jason cuts his hair, I expect that he will look different ... but just as appealing as he does now.

I was successful! I manged to grab a clip of my kitty pawing at Jason's feet while he skates. I am very pleased with my cat and her taste in entertainment right now. ...

LOL, I was so busy chattering about h/mu that I overlooked your cat (sorry). Love the video. (And I'm a dog person.)