2026-27 Canadian Figure Skating
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Didn't they notice that Desroches/Thrasher missed even 4CC test (by a hair) in their Senior debut. Does that mean they consider teams like D/T not worthy of any assignments? That's nuts.They now expect skaters to get the WORLDS minimum on their first assignment?That is harsh!!! And of good way of stopping skaters from developing. It is more difficult for skaters to gain the CTES if they have less experience of international competition. How are skaters meant to gain that experience if they are only allowed to go out once?
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And some judging panels just mark lower or higher overall than at some other events. So a near-miss may not always depend on skating ability, but on how that panel marked everyone that time. Skating is expensive enough as it is without turning the result into a game of dice.
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Are the world minimums staying the same from last year? If yes, that is an interesting decision on behalf of the ISU considering they did take out a whole jumping pass for singles and depending on your new program layout that's a 5-10 point TES loss. If the goal for ISU is to decrease the amount of people going to Worlds, mission accomplished I guess.
I just watched the US junior cup so I can only look at how it will affect mens' singles as of now, but the change to 6 jumping passes is going to disproportionally impact those skaters without any ultra c jumps. Top 3 overall were those that were top 3 in the free. All had triple axel attempts. Because of repetition rules, the 3A allows for what I call "diabolical combos/sequences", those are 3+3+2 or 3+3+3, and I'm sure we'll see 4+3+3 and maybe even 4+4+3 in the future too. From what I am seeing in the scorecards, anyone who doesn't attempt a 3A in the free can only in addition to a 3+3 do a 3+2+2 with a 3T or 3S as the last solo jump, or another 3+Eu+3 but with a 3F or 3Lz instead of 3T or 3S. So without a 3A, you either have 9 jumps overall, but the last one is a 3S or 3T OR you do 8 jumps, but can do a 3F or 3Lz. From a mathematical perspective, I would go for a 3A because that ensures you have 9 jumps and can repeat another 3F or 3Lz. I think this applies to the women as well.
Originally, there were 10 jumps last year. With the elimination of the 7th jumping pass, that number goes down to 8 or 9 depending on the jump arsenal of the skater. That's why there is such a range in the TES loss. I can see highly technical skaters such as Ilia Malinin, Misha Shaidorov and Stephen Gogolev doing diabolical combos and sequences with minimal loss to their TES, but those that can't combine ultra c jumps in novel ways or even do ultra c jumps in general, will see more of an effect on their TES. I don't know how far ISU thought this through, but its not looking too good for the more artistic skaters.
Regarding Skate Canada's decision to not send skaters to more international competitions if they don't hit world minimums on the first attempt, I mean, if skaters are hitting the benchmark scores, they should have no problems attaining the world minimums. I'm of the opinion that the TES and PCS should be roughly 50/50 of total score on average. Take men for example, if you're getting 219 domestically, you should be able to clear 109 in TES cause that's roughly 50% of total score. Same thing with the new women's benchmark score, 88/169=52%. Pairs and ice dance gets more harsh in the ratio of TES world mins/total domestic score. They're at 57% and 60% of the total score coming from the TES. So Skate Canada should increase the domestic benchmark for those two categories if the world minimums stay the same and Skate Canada is serious about the one chance to get world minimums.
On that note, I hope that the 4CC/Euros and World TES minimums are going to be updated and will reflect the changes that have been made to all the categories.
I just watched the US junior cup so I can only look at how it will affect mens' singles as of now, but the change to 6 jumping passes is going to disproportionally impact those skaters without any ultra c jumps. Top 3 overall were those that were top 3 in the free. All had triple axel attempts. Because of repetition rules, the 3A allows for what I call "diabolical combos/sequences", those are 3+3+2 or 3+3+3, and I'm sure we'll see 4+3+3 and maybe even 4+4+3 in the future too. From what I am seeing in the scorecards, anyone who doesn't attempt a 3A in the free can only in addition to a 3+3 do a 3+2+2 with a 3T or 3S as the last solo jump, or another 3+Eu+3 but with a 3F or 3Lz instead of 3T or 3S. So without a 3A, you either have 9 jumps overall, but the last one is a 3S or 3T OR you do 8 jumps, but can do a 3F or 3Lz. From a mathematical perspective, I would go for a 3A because that ensures you have 9 jumps and can repeat another 3F or 3Lz. I think this applies to the women as well.
Originally, there were 10 jumps last year. With the elimination of the 7th jumping pass, that number goes down to 8 or 9 depending on the jump arsenal of the skater. That's why there is such a range in the TES loss. I can see highly technical skaters such as Ilia Malinin, Misha Shaidorov and Stephen Gogolev doing diabolical combos and sequences with minimal loss to their TES, but those that can't combine ultra c jumps in novel ways or even do ultra c jumps in general, will see more of an effect on their TES. I don't know how far ISU thought this through, but its not looking too good for the more artistic skaters.
Regarding Skate Canada's decision to not send skaters to more international competitions if they don't hit world minimums on the first attempt, I mean, if skaters are hitting the benchmark scores, they should have no problems attaining the world minimums. I'm of the opinion that the TES and PCS should be roughly 50/50 of total score on average. Take men for example, if you're getting 219 domestically, you should be able to clear 109 in TES cause that's roughly 50% of total score. Same thing with the new women's benchmark score, 88/169=52%. Pairs and ice dance gets more harsh in the ratio of TES world mins/total domestic score. They're at 57% and 60% of the total score coming from the TES. So Skate Canada should increase the domestic benchmark for those two categories if the world minimums stay the same and Skate Canada is serious about the one chance to get world minimums.
On that note, I hope that the 4CC/Euros and World TES minimums are going to be updated and will reflect the changes that have been made to all the categories.
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Annik Bombardier, sister of Canadian pairs champion Jean-Michel and aunt of Fiona has passed away recently. She was a figure skating coach herself.
Condolences to her family and the skating community.
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Condolences to her family and the skating community.
Annik Bombardier - Obituaries
C’est avec une immense tristesse que nous vous annonçons le décès de Mme Annik Bombardier, survenu à Terrebonne le 11 juillet 2026, à l’âge de 57 ans. Elle laisse dans le deuil ses parents, Michel Bombardier et Francine Dupras; ses enfants adorés, Émilie (Yannick Bérubé) et Marc-Antoine (Nawel...
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This is amazing. I hope it sets a trend. I'd love it for Patrick to be helping skaters like that, even if he is not a full-time main coach.
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I'm so looking forward to finally seeing Lia on the JGP.
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It is exciting ecause honestly no one knows what to expect with canada. Majroie and Jean Luc appear to be the biggest hope Hannah and zach might be interesting buat arent eligible. I am very curious about Lia and Trennt. was a world bronze really their pinnacle/ Think about it Dube and davison Watson and Oppegard, Kuchicki and sand, James and radford, so many win a bronze and that's it. Goo has einvigorated the men He amazes me with his consistency. A little unluck y not to win a medal at the olympics or worlds but I dont think anyone expected hmm so close or in the race. I will miss roman because I think he had it all. So eleant. I am hoping we will see a miracle from gabby. I honeslty feel a little disappointed in Maddie. she has had so m any chances and unable to crack the top ten. But there is some new hope comin from thethe Korean lady Min??? It will be interested can Canada get back on track for the eam event.
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The team event is in four years 
We will have to see. A lot can change and not just from Canada's side.
Good to see that many are excited by the new Olympic cycle. Watching next gen was quite revealing.
Pairs : new teams and novices going up to seniors. Some promising teams but not of the caliber fo world junior championships gold and silver medal winners we had last year. This is completely normal. However, I was impressed with two team from Quebec that are brand new, one of which is only two months old, with a skater who had never done pairs... Kallay, Lacasse are this very fresh team but Lacasse is no longer a young guy new to pair. You can see Étienne guide Kaydee and take care of her. They should have a very interesting learning curve. Oreshkin Furman impressed me even more : brand new team and already having some triples. They are very promising. Vladimir is in only his second year in pairs and the experience from the first year is showing. He is like a boss on the ice. The young baby pairs also from Québec and Ontario are already in good shape. So pairs may not bring a bunch of medals this year but with veterans Lia and Trennt, newcomers to the GP Ava and Yoni and Jazzy and Kiki, we are in good hands. Plus, we haven't see Fiona and Loucas, Matte and Ferland who are returning together and other seniors (Ouellette Laliberté Laurent, Yunoki-Taylor , etc)
Dance : same. Perhaps no medals this year but the 4 new teams are exciting to see. The juniors had a rough time this weekend. The RD gave a lot of trouble to many. However, there are a couple brand new teams I love : Audra Gans and Danil Pak impressed me very much, even more so than the season Homick, Buelow and Anderson, Dawson. We were sad that Brière and Lévesque split... but they do have new partners and it's very exciting to see them in their new partners. Right now, Laurence with Earl Jesse Celestino have the edge but Julien is with Chaïma and they looked very good together. I am not counting out senior teams who remained together; LaLe, Fizz (my new name for Fournier-Zhu) Robinson-Portz and the two new duos created by the BB split who will now be in their second seasons and should make steady improvements.
Men : most of our strong junior men moved to senior. It's good because we indeed have two spots for worlds now ! YAY !!!!! In juniors, Grayson is still our main guy. He did do well on JGP last year. He is adding a quad salchow and his triple axel is good. He seems to have grown a bit but early on in the season, he should be ready for JGP. I am hoping Gogolev will remain calm and keep his progress, but moreover keep his health.
Women : to me, that's the most exciting discipline right now : who would have thought this just a couple years ago. Maddie decided to stay and I support her very much for that : Olympic years are stressful and maybe she will skate with more freedom. There are strong women all across the country, starting with Sara-Maude and Fée Ann in Québec all the way to Kaiya and Uliana. New member on the team Minsol Kwon will be skating for Canada this season. Gabby is also skating and will be back on the GP circuit (without being a host spot).
The top 3 junior women were impressive this weekend. Lia Cho almost scored 200 points with an invalid spin. Victoria is solid. Reese is upping her game. These three will fight for the small pickings of 4 spots available to Canada for JGP. However, on a good day, they can have brilliant and highly competitive skates. Lia has improved from last year and she was already a star.
It's nice to have medal winning stars. It will always be fun. However, it's also really amazing to see the entire field developing. Canadian skating is deeper and stronger overall. We often had a few amazing stars who could medal at every competition they would enter. However, at Nationals or small domestic competition, it was not always very deep. This has changed. Just in juniors : more boys are trying the 3A. More women, almost all 16 of them had the triple lutz (required jump this year in juniors is either a double or a triple lutz... I was expecting many doubles.. but nope... bring on the triple lutzes). Pairs are developing triples too... For some it's the throws, for some the twist, and others the SBS jumps. Ice dance is early in the season but very intriguing already.
Sorry... I shouldn't write a wall of text before breakfast. I hope it made sense... but in any case, I am very enthusiastic about what's coming up and looking forward to witness some of this at CQÉ in two weeks.
We will have to see. A lot can change and not just from Canada's side. Good to see that many are excited by the new Olympic cycle. Watching next gen was quite revealing.
Pairs : new teams and novices going up to seniors. Some promising teams but not of the caliber fo world junior championships gold and silver medal winners we had last year. This is completely normal. However, I was impressed with two team from Quebec that are brand new, one of which is only two months old, with a skater who had never done pairs... Kallay, Lacasse are this very fresh team but Lacasse is no longer a young guy new to pair. You can see Étienne guide Kaydee and take care of her. They should have a very interesting learning curve. Oreshkin Furman impressed me even more : brand new team and already having some triples. They are very promising. Vladimir is in only his second year in pairs and the experience from the first year is showing. He is like a boss on the ice. The young baby pairs also from Québec and Ontario are already in good shape. So pairs may not bring a bunch of medals this year but with veterans Lia and Trennt, newcomers to the GP Ava and Yoni and Jazzy and Kiki, we are in good hands. Plus, we haven't see Fiona and Loucas, Matte and Ferland who are returning together and other seniors (Ouellette Laliberté Laurent, Yunoki-Taylor , etc)
Dance : same. Perhaps no medals this year but the 4 new teams are exciting to see. The juniors had a rough time this weekend. The RD gave a lot of trouble to many. However, there are a couple brand new teams I love : Audra Gans and Danil Pak impressed me very much, even more so than the season Homick, Buelow and Anderson, Dawson. We were sad that Brière and Lévesque split... but they do have new partners and it's very exciting to see them in their new partners. Right now, Laurence with Earl Jesse Celestino have the edge but Julien is with Chaïma and they looked very good together. I am not counting out senior teams who remained together; LaLe, Fizz (my new name for Fournier-Zhu) Robinson-Portz and the two new duos created by the BB split who will now be in their second seasons and should make steady improvements.
Men : most of our strong junior men moved to senior. It's good because we indeed have two spots for worlds now ! YAY !!!!! In juniors, Grayson is still our main guy. He did do well on JGP last year. He is adding a quad salchow and his triple axel is good. He seems to have grown a bit but early on in the season, he should be ready for JGP. I am hoping Gogolev will remain calm and keep his progress, but moreover keep his health.
Women : to me, that's the most exciting discipline right now : who would have thought this just a couple years ago. Maddie decided to stay and I support her very much for that : Olympic years are stressful and maybe she will skate with more freedom. There are strong women all across the country, starting with Sara-Maude and Fée Ann in Québec all the way to Kaiya and Uliana. New member on the team Minsol Kwon will be skating for Canada this season. Gabby is also skating and will be back on the GP circuit (without being a host spot).
The top 3 junior women were impressive this weekend. Lia Cho almost scored 200 points with an invalid spin. Victoria is solid. Reese is upping her game. These three will fight for the small pickings of 4 spots available to Canada for JGP. However, on a good day, they can have brilliant and highly competitive skates. Lia has improved from last year and she was already a star.
It's nice to have medal winning stars. It will always be fun. However, it's also really amazing to see the entire field developing. Canadian skating is deeper and stronger overall. We often had a few amazing stars who could medal at every competition they would enter. However, at Nationals or small domestic competition, it was not always very deep. This has changed. Just in juniors : more boys are trying the 3A. More women, almost all 16 of them had the triple lutz (required jump this year in juniors is either a double or a triple lutz... I was expecting many doubles.. but nope... bring on the triple lutzes). Pairs are developing triples too... For some it's the throws, for some the twist, and others the SBS jumps. Ice dance is early in the season but very intriguing already.
Sorry... I shouldn't write a wall of text before breakfast
. I hope it made sense... but in any case, I am very enthusiastic about what's coming up and looking forward to witness some of this at CQÉ in two weeks.
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More boys are trying the 3A because with only 6 jumping passes and the Euler not being counted anymore, you can have 9, not 8 jumps overall if you attempt a 3A. Mathematically, it makes sense to do even a 3A<< with a fall. I think that is the main reason we're seeing more gutsy attempts of the 3A. If there was no rule change, most of the 3As I saw at NextGen would not be in programs because they don't look landable. Unfortunately, I think this trend will be seen in international competitions too. I just hope no one breaks their ankle trying to maximize their jumping content before they are readyThe team event is in four years
Good to see that many are excited by the new Olympic cycle. Watching next gen was quite revealing.
Pairs : new teams and novices going up to seniors. Some promising teams but not of the caliber fo world junior championships gold and silver medal winners we had last year. This is completely normal. However, I was impressed with two team from Quebec that are brand new, one of which is only two months old, with a skater who had never done pairs... Kallay, Lacasse are this very fresh team but Lacasse is no longer a young guy new to pair. You can see Étienne guide Kaydee and take care of her. They should have a very interesting learning curve. Oreshkin Furman impressed me even more : brand new team and already having some triples. They are very promising. Vladimir is in only his second year in pairs and the experience from the first year is showing. He is like a boss on the ice. The young baby pairs also from Québec and Ontario are already in good shape. So pairs may not bring a bunch of medals this year but with veterans Lia and Trennt, newcomers to the GP Ava and Yoni and Jazzy and Kiki, we are in good hands. Plus, we haven't see Fiona and Loucas, Matte and Ferland who are returning together and other seniors (Ouellette Laliberté Laurent, Yunoki-Taylor , etc)
Dance : same. Perhaps no medals this year but the 4 new teams are exciting to see. The juniors had a rough time this weekend. The RD gave a lot of trouble to many. However, there are a couple brand new teams I love : Audra Gans and Danil Pak impressed me very much, even more so than the season Homick, Buelow and Anderson, Dawson. We were sad that Brière and Lévesque split... but they do have new partners and it's very exciting to see them in their new partners. Right now, Laurence with Earl Jesse Celestino have the edge but Julien is with Chaïma and they looked very good together. I am not counting out senior teams who remained together; LaLe, Fizz (my new name for Fournier-Zhu) Robinson-Portz and the two new duos created by the BB split who will now be in their second seasons and should make steady improvements.
Men : most of our strong junior men moved to senior. It's good because we indeed have two spots for worlds now ! YAY !!!!! In juniors, Grayson is still our main guy. He did do well on JGP last year. He is adding a quad salchow and his triple axel is good. He seems to have grown a bit but early on in the season, he should be ready for JGP. I am hoping Gogolev will remain calm and keep his progress, but moreover keep his health.
Women : to me, that's the most exciting discipline right now : who would have thought this just a couple years ago. Maddie decided to stay and I support her very much for that : Olympic years are stressful and maybe she will skate with more freedom. There are strong women all across the country, starting with Sara-Maude and Fée Ann in Québec all the way to Kaiya and Uliana. New member on the team Minsol Kwon will be skating for Canada this season. Gabby is also skating and will be back on the GP circuit (without being a host spot).
The top 3 junior women were impressive this weekend. Lia Cho almost scored 200 points with an invalid spin. Victoria is solid. Reese is upping her game. These three will fight for the small pickings of 4 spots available to Canada for JGP. However, on a good day, they can have brilliant and highly competitive skates. Lia has improved from last year and she was already a star.
It's nice to have medal winning stars. It will always be fun. However, it's also really amazing to see the entire field developing. Canadian skating is deeper and stronger overall. We often had a few amazing stars who could medal at every competition they would enter. However, at Nationals or small domestic competition, it was not always very deep. This has changed. Just in juniors : more boys are trying the 3A. More women, almost all 16 of them had the triple lutz (required jump this year in juniors is either a double or a triple lutz... I was expecting many doubles.. but nope... bring on the triple lutzes). Pairs are developing triples too... For some it's the throws, for some the twist, and others the SBS jumps. Ice dance is early in the season but very intriguing already.
Sorry... I shouldn't write a wall of text before breakfast
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that's probably part of it but then, some of these boys were chasing them last year too
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I watched NextGen as well. I had to keep reminding myself that it is very early in the season with many programmes (and partnerships) just a couple of months old. And I bet with the younger skaters (and the vets too) there was lots of nerves - so much on the line.
I think our dance teams will come together in the next couple of months. Charlie and Cayden need to go back to the drawing board for the rhythm dance. I don't blame them but their choreographer - I like Jessica Rabbit as a concept (Charlie channels her well) but after watching the beautiful waltzes posted by Labgoat, I think they should pick something more traditional and faster. But we do have some exciting new teams - hope they get a chance to get in front of international judges this autumn.
Pairs - uneven but there are again some exciting things being done. Yes, we have been spoiled the last couple of years but there is a lot of promise. I really like Alia Tang / William Bocskay and Miroslava Oreshkin / Vladimir Furman. I think all teams will improve in the next 6 months quite a bit. Nationals should be exciting! There are teams we haven't seen yet too. David and Emily are MIA - hopefully ready to debut soon. From Ontario Namitha Kartha / Makya Bertrand are entered for August. From BC - Ava Cheung / Keith Lau are also entered for August - both in Quebec and BC. Anybody else?
Men - I love Bowen's jumps - not there so much in competition but he has beautiful flow. Same with Travis and Ethan. And Rui is coming back. Colton - he is still a "colt" in his movements but lots of potential to impress. I am not (yet) worried about the future of our men.
Women - okay, I watched the team element competition last night. Reese won the triple axel element - yes over Grayson whose 3A was pretty good too! You have to see - one of the best I have seen from a woman. She is up at 18:45. Worth a look. Of course everything Lia does is wonderful - can't wait to see how the international judges respond to her. Victoria's short is very good - she seemed to struggle in the free but perhaps it is the early start and her conditioning isn't yet there. I think it will improve over the summer. I am still a big fan of Lulu - she showed us last year she is better later in the season. I agree that Lia should get 2 spots and Victoria and Reese one each. I hope Reese puts her 3A in the free although currently the programme isn't set up for it.
The whole NextGen team element "competition" is fun to watch and it is lovely to see how the kids seem to have bonded. Very smart of Skate Canada IMO. Looking forward to the season.
I think our dance teams will come together in the next couple of months. Charlie and Cayden need to go back to the drawing board for the rhythm dance. I don't blame them but their choreographer - I like Jessica Rabbit as a concept (Charlie channels her well) but after watching the beautiful waltzes posted by Labgoat, I think they should pick something more traditional and faster. But we do have some exciting new teams - hope they get a chance to get in front of international judges this autumn.
Pairs - uneven but there are again some exciting things being done. Yes, we have been spoiled the last couple of years but there is a lot of promise. I really like Alia Tang / William Bocskay and Miroslava Oreshkin / Vladimir Furman. I think all teams will improve in the next 6 months quite a bit. Nationals should be exciting! There are teams we haven't seen yet too. David and Emily are MIA - hopefully ready to debut soon. From Ontario Namitha Kartha / Makya Bertrand are entered for August. From BC - Ava Cheung / Keith Lau are also entered for August - both in Quebec and BC. Anybody else?
Men - I love Bowen's jumps - not there so much in competition but he has beautiful flow. Same with Travis and Ethan. And Rui is coming back. Colton - he is still a "colt" in his movements but lots of potential to impress. I am not (yet) worried about the future of our men.
Women - okay, I watched the team element competition last night. Reese won the triple axel element - yes over Grayson whose 3A was pretty good too! You have to see - one of the best I have seen from a woman. She is up at 18:45. Worth a look. Of course everything Lia does is wonderful - can't wait to see how the international judges respond to her. Victoria's short is very good - she seemed to struggle in the free but perhaps it is the early start and her conditioning isn't yet there. I think it will improve over the summer. I am still a big fan of Lulu - she showed us last year she is better later in the season. I agree that Lia should get 2 spots and Victoria and Reese one each. I hope Reese puts her 3A in the free although currently the programme isn't set up for it.
The whole NextGen team element "competition" is fun to watch and it is lovely to see how the kids seem to have bonded. Very smart of Skate Canada IMO. Looking forward to the season.
