Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

Snow63 · Sep 30, 2017

CAS said:
Thanks, I thought as much. Since you have seen both programs and since the TV station already showed clips from their SD can you confirm what we actually saw? Is the first section the steps (and if so is there a stop in the portion we don't see?) and is the second very brief clip from their PSt?

The first section is the second half of their NtStSq (since there's only 3 difficult steps and turns). I highly doubt the second part is a part of PSt, since we see a clear separation there.

Btw, they're not the first team not to put a stop in their steps. Bobrova/Soloviev, for example, don't do it.

CAS · Sep 30, 2017

Snow63 said:
The first section is the second half of their NtStSq (since there's only 3 difficult steps and turns). I highly doubt the second part is a part of PSt, since we see a clear separation there.

Btw, they're not the first team not to put a stop in their steps. Bobrova/Soloviev, for example, don't do it.

Thanks. I wasn't sure which is why I asked as someone who watched the program wrote that elsewhere but your explanation is based on technical knowledge and they must have misspoke.

As for B/S, again thanks, I must confess I have found it difficult to get through that program and probably haven't to date. Have just noticed it more in the others I have watched, particularly as it bothers a handful of people that it has been commented on a lot. I don't mind the breaks when they add to the program.

Snow63 · Sep 30, 2017

CAS said:
Thanks. I wasn't sure which is why I asked as someone who watched the program wrote that elsewhere but your explanation is based on technical knowledge and they must have misspoke.

As for B/S, again thanks, I must confess I have found it difficult to get through that program and probably haven't to date. Have just noticed it more in the others I have watched, particularly as it bothers a handful of people that it has been commented on a lot. I don't mind the breaks when they add to the program.

Honestly, these stops bother me a LOT. It makes the element much easier, since it lessens the strain of the legs of skaters, and I'm ready to argue about its necessity from choreographic point of view. I hope they will not use it.

Ender · Sep 30, 2017

I believe in Mr. Dean. His choreography has always been my favorite. They have the best material for FD this season.

icetigger · Sep 30, 2017

Snow63 said:
Honestly, these stops bother me a LOT. It makes the element much easier, since it lessens the strain of the legs of skaters, and I'm ready to argue about its necessity from choreographic point of view. I hope they will not use it.

Especially when it's the first element in the programme: it's like tick three boxes to get level four, have a little rest, tick the other 2 boxes to get level four. AND THEY"RE STARTING FROM FRESH ANYWAY!!!

Snow63 · Sep 30, 2017

icetigger said:
Especially when it's the first element in the programme: it's like tick three boxes to get level four, have a little rest, tick the other 2 boxes to get level four. AND THEY"RE STARTING FROM FRESH ANYWAY!!!

Yes. Plus the ISU already simplified not touching steps to the max when they excluded required one foot section. Why make it even simplier?

icetigger · Sep 30, 2017

Snow63 said:
Yes. Plus the ISU already simplified not touching steps to the max when they excluded required one foot section. Why make it even simplier?

There was no double twizzle in what we have seen of P and C's sequence: most likely at the start or before a break?

Snow63 · Sep 30, 2017

icetigger said:
There was no double twizzle in what we have seen of P and C's sequence: most likely at the start or before a break?

Yes, they should have it in the first half of the element, since this is a necessery turn for level 3 or 4.

icetigger · Sep 30, 2017

Snow63 said:
Yes, they should have it in the first half of the element, since this is a necessery turn for level 3 or 4.

Which is unusual for them: I think it came at the end of all four step sequences last year....... I wonder why that is.....

CAS · Sep 30, 2017

Snow63 said:
Honestly, these stops bother me a LOT. It makes the element much easier, since it lessens the strain of the legs of skaters, and I'm ready to argue about its necessity from choreographic point of view. I hope they will not use it.

Well it depends on what the skaters do during those max 5 seconds but I'm not bothered either way. It's something they are doing this year and if it's gone another year I don't have strong feelings.

AliAle · Sep 30, 2017

Are you guys ready? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62bbnb

Ok... this put to shame all MS programs I've ever seen, it's perfectly choreographed, full of emotion and completely immersive. They have a total winner on their hands :love:

123 points is completely crazy, but wouldn't you love to see that score at the Olympics? :shocked:

MelDee · Sep 30, 2017

It is gorgeous!!!!

Roast Toast · Sep 30, 2017

Lots of beautiful intentions in the first movement that, once matured, will definitely be exquisite. The entire presto part is already a masterpiece though :love:

123

Anna189 · Sep 30, 2017

So beautiful!! Everything about it: music, choreography, their movements, costumes... and if you imagine how much it will grow during the season...

nimi · Sep 30, 2017

Beautiful!

The elements blend in and fit with the music beautifully, even the step sequences! (I hope they get the levels and no major revamp is necessary...)

icetigger · Sep 30, 2017

I'm just confused: where did those four minutes go?

Iris81 · Sep 30, 2017

It is unbelievably beautiful! That is real olympic dance. Wow. :love:

And they are well prepared, executed everything really smoothly.

Lily flowers · Sep 30, 2017

It was really beautiful. I just wish I saw the beginning from the judges angle :sad21:

MelDee · Sep 30, 2017

All those arm movements.... Jeffrey Cirio is a genius!

Anyasnake · Sep 30, 2017

Okay... pretty epic. Incredible quality of skating.

http://www.csndg.org/resultats/Masters2017/MAST2017_SeniorsDanse_FD_Scores.pdf

There is a margin with a level 3 but whatever, it has come to a point where I just want to see them skate.

Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

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