Wait, a million? The website now says 1.5M signatures are required. huh.
2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate
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Wait, a million? The website now says 1.5M signatures are required. huh.
Agreed. As if incomplete buildings, poor facilities for participants (including that disgusting rusted tap water) and the oh-so-famous technical difficulty of the Olympic symbol at the Opening ceremony wasn't enough. AND NOW THIS. I do not hesitate when I say, "worst Olympic games ever."
I'm what you would call the ultimate casual fan, pretty much only watch Olympic skating. I couldn't begin to judge anything. I loved the nbc streaming, just watching performance after performance of whatever, couldn't stand the prime time coverage, not sure when what would air or how much of it would air. But to the point, I saw a lot of cool skating and that's all I can say to it. Am I a 'fan' that will follow any random skating event that airs on tv? Probably not. Is it because of 'controversy' shown here or names being done? Nah.
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One of the biggest jokes ever.
Should've been
1. Carolina Kostner or Yu-Na Kim for either gold or silver
3. Adelina Sotnikova for bronze
Should've been
1. Carolina Kostner or Yu-Na Kim for either gold or silver
3. Adelina Sotnikova for bronze
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The Ice Dance and Pairs Event were phenomenal, though, and the US win in ice dance will boost the sport in North America. Plus Johnny and Tara won lots of new fans. and men are falling over in love with Gracie Gold.
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Mao has been underscord her entire career, she never got what she deserved
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Excactly!
And Best FS scores to Mao, Carolina and Kim
Sotnikova's lovely skate at 4th
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First, I am not Russian, and it distresses me to see a lot of Russian haters on this board since before the Olympics. Japan, Canada, US all favored their own whenever they hosted international events, I don't doubt that there's home advantage here too, just par for the course.
The question is whether it is done to the point where it is beyond the pale and led to unjust results. I would say "No", as someone without particular favorites, but admire skates, not skaters.
The petition to overturn the results is horrible and unsporting, it looks like online "swarm" mobilization again of the ugly kind.
It seems to me most posters here were watching the games with colored glasses, especially the Kim ubers, as it was very obvious that both Sotnikova and Mao had the most difficult, complex and intricate FS programs overall, even if they made small mistakes. Sotnikova's was more complex than Mao's, though Mao had the better jumps layout. I love Kim's skating, she is a beautiful skater, but her program and performance were in no way her best, lots of cross-overs and gestures but not a lot of moves, jumps and spins were nicely executed but not spectacular. I had hoped that she would up the ante for the Olympics after Zagreb and Nationals for the performance between the jumps, up the passion, the staccato, the sobriety a la W/P's Tango FS, but she didn't. Mao did in her FS, her very being poured into her performance. I blame her choreographer for not giving her programs with more oomph. I would place the FS (1) Sotnikova (2) Mao (3) Kim (4) Caro (5) Edmunds, (horribly underscored in PCS...seems they all went to Gracie Gold).
Sotnikova deserved her PCS - the execution, interpretation, choreography were all original and full of charisma. She was on fire in both SP and LP, like Mao in the FS, she really wanted to bring the game - there was a lot to appreciate in between the big technical elements. She isn't an ice princess, she picks unusual, difficult and challenging moves, lines, gestures, lots of surprises, nothing like what every other skater delivered. To those who are used to the skating style of Mao, Kim, Gold, etc., they may seem jarring, "ugly", awkward, but to me, I like a Pina Bausch as much as a Kirov Ballet. Both have their artistic merits as long as their meaning is expressed in the performance.
The question is whether it is done to the point where it is beyond the pale and led to unjust results. I would say "No", as someone without particular favorites, but admire skates, not skaters.
The petition to overturn the results is horrible and unsporting, it looks like online "swarm" mobilization again of the ugly kind.
It seems to me most posters here were watching the games with colored glasses, especially the Kim ubers, as it was very obvious that both Sotnikova and Mao had the most difficult, complex and intricate FS programs overall, even if they made small mistakes. Sotnikova's was more complex than Mao's, though Mao had the better jumps layout. I love Kim's skating, she is a beautiful skater, but her program and performance were in no way her best, lots of cross-overs and gestures but not a lot of moves, jumps and spins were nicely executed but not spectacular. I had hoped that she would up the ante for the Olympics after Zagreb and Nationals for the performance between the jumps, up the passion, the staccato, the sobriety a la W/P's Tango FS, but she didn't. Mao did in her FS, her very being poured into her performance. I blame her choreographer for not giving her programs with more oomph. I would place the FS (1) Sotnikova (2) Mao (3) Kim (4) Caro (5) Edmunds, (horribly underscored in PCS...seems they all went to Gracie Gold).
Sotnikova deserved her PCS - the execution, interpretation, choreography were all original and full of charisma. She was on fire in both SP and LP, like Mao in the FS, she really wanted to bring the game - there was a lot to appreciate in between the big technical elements. She isn't an ice princess, she picks unusual, difficult and challenging moves, lines, gestures, lots of surprises, nothing like what every other skater delivered. To those who are used to the skating style of Mao, Kim, Gold, etc., they may seem jarring, "ugly", awkward, but to me, I like a Pina Bausch as much as a Kirov Ballet. Both have their artistic merits as long as their meaning is expressed in the performance.
I am not a fan of Putin.
I haven't been a fan of Putin since the Kursk tragedy. I don't trust him at all.
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In a brief off-ice interview with an American reporter, Yuna said that she was glad that it was over, was under a lot of pressure, continuing to train had been hard...she seemed more relieved than sad imo.
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Can you please respect that this outcome is infuriating to many many people without us being "Russian haters" ?
Sotnikova's FS was more difficult than mao's ? It's crazy pills time again
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No, when Putin is dragged into the discussion, it's definitely Russophobia.
If folks are posting all the evidence that shows Sotnikova doesn't deserve her scores, then it's not hating because she's Russian. If she had been Korean or American, would there be such an uproar? It's unfair to skaters, so please respect her too.
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What a joke that Adelina can score over 140 with her amateur skating, let alone 149.5 almost beating Yuna WR with that terrible 3-2-2
Her skating skill is worse than Ashley Wagner, and let me not even compare her to Carolina and Yuna.
Her program was just boring and her interpretation is that of a junior, not a Lady figure skating.
There is no grace in her, no smoothness.
The true standings
1. Yuna
2. Carolina
3. Mao (Her LP should be ahead of Adelina by well over 15 points)
4. Adelina . I'm sorry but her skate will NEVER be considered a gold winning
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This interview explained her performance to me. She didn't have the enthusiasm. She couldn't wait to be done. She competed not because she was hungry but because she felt compelled to by her country. She just didn't BRING it tonight. Scott Hamilton, Johnny Weir, and Tara all pointed this out in their interviews with Bob Costas on Late Night tonight. She played it safe. She only went for six triples. Many of her landings were tight. She did not perform with abandon or passion or scintillating beauty. She just didn't. It was not her night. She can be astounding, as she was in Vancouver, but she simply wasn't in this long program. and the choreography was not top notch either.
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You are projecting onto others because it's comfortable for the sake of your argument
I just saw the NBC primetima and late night coverage of the ladies' free skate.. Even though I had seen it in the afternoon, I enjoyed this free skate in a more relaxed way (I was nail-biting along the way during the live broadcasting) and they showed as well Yuna's reaction when she left the Kiss and Cry and gosh, my heart went out to her as soon as a I saw her crying. For me she's been the epitomy of ladies' figure skating since she arrived to the senior scene back in the '06-'07 season (I shall never forget that gorgeous world recording short program to Tango de Roxanne in '07 worlds and since she came back from virtual retirement for last years worlds you could see she was done with her passion for the sport. Yes, she skated magnificently and but the look on her face then was that of relief rather than excitement. She had already won it all for her country and I still feel they put a lot of pressure on her young shoulders to carry on even when she was ready to move on.
Coming into this competition I felt she thought it was doable for her to walk away with another gold in similar fashion to last years world competition so she really didn't feel the need to up her technical content as she is capable of and, although she was close to flawless on both her programs, for the first time she showed nerves and the pressure of winning gold again got her as she seemed a little tight of her jumps. I don't think she realized how important her second straight gold medal was for her until she realized she had gotten silver, instead.
I feel things would've been diffrent had she performed at the Grand Prix series because this was really the first time she got to test her programs to international judges and thats why sometimes I hate figure skating so much, because sometimes is all about politicking, or skating in front of a home crowd or having to be out there many times before getting the scores you deserve.
I know for sure Adelina wouldn't have been higher than third had the competition been held in some other country but then again, she capitalized the opportunity she had and defied her own personal ghosts. That's something I definitely have to admire and, as she said in the press conference, if we have questions about her scores it shouldn't be her we should be asking for answers but the judges. She just did her job.
I really hope she's able to overcome this and continues developing into the wonderful competitor we started to see tonight.
As for Carolina, what a wonderful way to close her competitive career with that beautiful performance. What a personal triumph! What a skater! In her late 20's she showing everyone that age can be a huge asset if you know how to conduct yourself in a proper way. Seeing her skate tonight made me think of that immensely talented young Italian skater I fell in love with at 2004 Worlds in her short program to Song from a secret garden. I loved every second of both her performances and I'm so proud of her as she should be. It's been a long way and I will miss her enormously as well as Yuna and Mao who had the performance of her life in the free program.
It was a free skate for the ages but it has left me with mixed feelings.
On a possitive note, I think we're gonna have a very competitive quad ahead of us and we'll see many young skaters bringing it in the technical content. Four years is a long time but I hope I get to see Adelina, Yulia, Gracie and Polina at Pyongyang.
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I like a lot of what you say above. But I would have had Mao 1st in the free in both TES and PCS, Carolina 2nd in PCS and Adelina 2nd in TES, and Yuna 3rd in TES and PCS. I also agree with you that Edmunds was the one who was horribly underscored here.
