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Where was Adelina at? Was she not qualified for this event or something? I know she didn't really compete much internationally but didn't she compete a few times in Russia to at least make her eligible.
 
Where was Adelina at? Was she not qualified for this event or something? I know she didn't really compete much internationally but didn't she compete a few times in Russia to at least make her eligible.

Adelina just came back from Switzerland from Art on Ice. Jumps look good. Someone asked if she was going to the Final she answered on ask.fm that the World team was already decided so no point in doing the final :confused2: Didn't agree with that but it's her decision. She says she will be working on her jumps for next season so I expect no more competitions for her.
 
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I can't seem to find them, so it would be much appreciated if somebody could provide a link to the Russian Cup Final results! :)
 
Adidas put out another commercial as part of their Here to Create campaign and they featured Yulia. This one is clearly marketed at English speaking yahoos like myself. :o:

https://youtu.be/eDJHt79YUE8

I wish more skaters could get cool sponsors because we need more commercials like this out there.

Life is not about them
#CreateYourself
 
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I'm sooooo happy for Yulia and Serafima! Still not perfect, but it shows that they aim for strong comeback next season. I feel excited already!
 
Adidas put out another commercial as part of their Here to Create campaign and they featured Yulia. This one is clearly marketed at English speaking yahoos like myself. :o:

https://youtu.be/eDJHt79YUE8

I wish more skaters could get cool sponsors because we need more commercials like this out there.

Life is not about them
#CreateYourself

Wow!!!!!! Yulia looks great in that commercial. I love to see these ladies when they don't have any pressure on them and can just be themselves. . Спасибо :thank:
 
Yulia looks to be in much better shape with the jumps. I'm happy to see her doing each different triple in a single program. Her flip entrance looks different but I think it will help keep her on the inside edge.
 
Just when I thought Leonova was finished she shows she has life. Russia has really good skaters but not great. However, if Judges faves Gold, Wagner don't lay it down they will do well though one wonders if the judges are leaning to Ms. Consistency Miyahara? I have a problem with that. She is consistent but her jumps do appear pre rotated and don't have the amplitude of many which should be reflected in goes. Miyahara and or Mao look to be Russia's greatest threat and real. Reallly if you look at what appears to be the leanings of the judges Russia doesn't have a shot at the medal - Wagner, Gold and Mao. However all three are inconsistent. The "odds" are sort of favouring at least one of them skating well at worlds.
 
Just when I thought Leonova was finished she shows she has life. Russia has really good skaters but not great. However, if Judges faves Gold, Wagner don't lay it down they will do well though one wonders if the judges are leaning to Ms. Consistency Miyahara? I have a problem with that. She is consistent but her jumps do appear pre rotated and don't have the amplitude of many which should be reflected in goes. Miyahara and or Mao look to be Russia's greatest threat and real. Reallly if you look at what appears to be the leanings of the judges Russia doesn't have a shot at the medal - Wagner, Gold and Mao. However all three are inconsistent. The "odds" are sort of favouring at least one of them skating well at worlds.

I don't see your point here. Judges love Medvedeva this season. They do seem, however, ready to dump Radionova easily if Satoko/Ashley/Gracie/Mao skate clean.
IMO Russians have a real shot at a medal this season if they skate clean. Probability of having Medvedeva on the podium if she goes clean are higher, however, than Radionova. Pogorilaya, unfortunately, due to her inconsistency, will not recieve high PCS even if clean.
 
Just when I thought Leonova was finished she shows she has life. Russia has really good skaters but not great. However, if Judges faves Gold, Wagner don't lay it down they will do well though one wonders if the judges are leaning to Ms. Consistency Miyahara? I have a problem with that. She is consistent but her jumps do appear pre rotated and don't have the amplitude of many which should be reflected in goes. Miyahara and or Mao look to be Russia's greatest threat and real. Reallly if you look at what appears to be the leanings of the judges Russia doesn't have a shot at the medal - Wagner, Gold and Mao. However all three are inconsistent. The "odds" are sort of favouring at least one of them skating well at worlds.

Where did you take that from? Evgenia won over Gracie in SA, won the GPF with tremendous scores and was just crowned at Euros. Elena is trying as hard as she can to run after Medvedeva. Unless they bomb seriously in Boston, I doubt we're not going to see at least one of them, if not two, in the podium.

At the GPF, Satoko was just fourteen points behind Evgenia. I don't see that difference reverting unless a Medvedeva has a bad competition.

And the odds are really not playing against her.
 
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Well I am just saying two sub par to be nice performances from Gracie and she is held up like the answer to cancer or something. Besides not sure if Med can keep up this consistency. The pressure is bound to get to her at some point. And we all know Gracie, Mao and Ashley can do it; it is jus when - they don't even need to be totally clean (maybe Ashley).
 
Well I am just saying two sub par to be nice performances from Gracie and she is held up like the answer to cancer or something. Besides not sure if Med can keep up this consistency. The pressure is bound to get to her at some point. And we all know Gracie, Mao and Ashley can do it; it is jus when - they don't even need to be totally clean (maybe Ashley).

Just out of curiosity: How high do you estimate their chances to be and much money would you be willing to bet on it?
 
I actually think Med or Rad or both will medal only because Ashley, Gracie and Mao are extremely inconsistent. Maybe years ago Mao was consistent and I know there are huge Mao fans here but she has been fixing her lutz and all and urs for ages. Still you would just think three talented judge loved skaters - that have not had great competitions this year - one of three you would think do well at worlds? I am wondering also when or if the judges will start reading these posts and start questioning or at least marking down the GOES on Miyahara's jumps.
 
As we get closer to Worlds, I think I'll revisit those power rankings I did for the top Russian ladies last fall. (Tuk, Sot, Lip, Med, Rad, Pog) Instead of rating each category for each person, I'll just compare them by category. Feel free to leave your comments, whether you agree or disagree.

Jump quality: Medvedeva > Pogorilaya > Radionova > Tuktamysheva > Sotnikova > Lipnitskaya.

Medvedeva is getting rewarded for her difficult Tanos, and her jumps are the most assured and confident out of all Russians. When she's on, Pogorilaya's jumps are also excellent- high and fast. Elena's jumps are still not spectacular, but she sells the landings. Liza was first at the beginning of the year for me but her jumps have been nowhere near as solid this season- she's lost the height and the exit speed. Adelina has good height but her air position can get sloppy, and I'm not sure if I've seen her do any nice jumps this season that are not triple toes. Yulia has always had subpar jump quality and continues to struggle in this regard.

Spin quality: Lipnitskaya > Sotnikova > Medvedeva > Radionova > Pogorilaya > Tuktamysheva.
Yulia's spins are as lovely as ever, and I am still a big fan of Adelina's positions. Evgeniya for me has the slight edge over Elena here, and even though Elena's spins are widely loved (especially her layback), I do not like a few of her positions. Her use of her very very thin arms during the sit spin is not appealing to me at all and reminds me even more of how bony she is. Liza, well, her sit spin is probably the worst spin among the Russians, and her layback is not visually appealing either.

Skating Skills: Sotnikova > Lipnitskaya > Medvedeva > Pogorilaya > Radionova > Tuktamysheva.

These next two categories are very subjective and thus, you could easily rank them completely differently than I do. Personally I believe Adelina has developed solid edges- maybe the dancing practice has helped with her lines and such. Yulia is still so lovely to watch (when she's not jumping). The next three are really similar I think, but I'll give the edge to Evgeniya because I believe she has better flow on ice than Anna and Elena flails her arms a lot- there's often too much going on in her skating that is unnecessary. Liza, well, keep working on it.

Programs/Choreo/Interpretation: Sotnikova > Medvedeva > Pogorilaya > Radionova > Lipnitskaya > Tuktamysheva.

Adelina has two fun programs this year- I like her exciting sexy free and her Lara Fabian long program, which is much better to watch, in my opinion, than Elena's other Fabian program. She also performs the heck out of them. I am not a huge fan of Evgeniya's music, since neither captivate me, but she does interpret them nicely. Anna's Scheherazade program fits her very well, but when she is not on her game and falls on her jumps, there is absolutely zero performance and you can see the detachment on her face. Elena's programs are so cheesy and corny, but if anyone could pull those off, it's her. Her interpretation makes the programs somewhat tolerable. Yulia has a bizarre short program that she rarely actually gets into, and a long program that is beautiful but is devoid of any emotional connection- especially when her jumps are not working. I would not like to comment on Liza's rather horrific free program.

Consistency/Competitiveness: Medvedeva > Radionova > Pogorilaya > Tuktamysheva > Lipnitskaya > Sotnikova.

This is perhaps the most important category, and Evgeniya and Elena are ahead by a country mile. There is a real grittiness to both Evgeniya and Elena, and they are capable of really fighting through programs. They rarely fall and will consistently deliver clean or nearly clean programs. A distant third is Anna, who has shown flashes of brilliance coupled with nightmarish programs. She throws herself into jumps and sometimes falls spectacularly. She needs to find more consistency to compete on a higher level. Liza, Yulia, and Snot are all essentially tied for last. These three have been all over the place this season, and it's no wonder none of them are going to worlds.

It just so happens that my overall rankings are EXACTLY THE SAME as my rankings for consistency, which just shows you how important that category is. What are your thoughts?
 
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Consistency/Competitiveness: Medvedeva > Radionova > Pogorilaya > Tuktamysheva > Lipnitskaya > Sotnikova.
Liza, Yulia, and Snot are all essentially tied for last. These three have been all over the place this season, and it's no wonder none of them are going to worlds.

Snot :laugh2:
 
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