2016-17 State of Russian Ladies skating
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I forgot about Tsursksaya - is she yet another possible oly threat. So they have two real threats who can't go to worlds this year because of age on top of Evgenia? And that doesn't count their lady skater Anna or the injured and former champions Julia, Liza, Adelina or grandmother Leonova and doesn't even consider Elena, Maria too? (There are some other Russian skaters who potentially are top ten but won't even be considered here lol While they may be not memorable Yuna or Mao or Michelle skaters they are pretty darn spectacular.
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Totally agree. But it is so rare to have a world champion who isn't an olympian. Im sure this thought is nagging her...The olympics is such a wonderful moment for these athletes no doubt.
TBH I admire the ambition behind it. Don't think she can reach the Olympics without a 3A now (PCS too low), but if you look at her 2014/15 scores and add a 3A to the LP, she'd not only get to the Olympics, she'd be virtually guaranteed a place on the podium!
TAT ain't proud of Liza at all - she destroyed her live during nationals saying she can't skate much. Artistry and elegance is not her thing and she can only win with technical effort. The other commentator tried to oppose: "you don't become world champion, if you can't skate" to which TAT replied "yes, you do".
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TAT ain't proud of Liza at all - she destroyed her live during nationals saying she can't skate much. Artistry and elegance is not her thing and she can only win with technical effort. The other commentator tried to oppose: "you don't become world champion, if you can't skate" to which TAT replied "yes, you do".
One could say the same about her pet Kovtun. At least Liza has the ability to skate 2 good programs once in awhile without any serious meltdowns.
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so true!
True, but the last time Liza managed to do so is two year ago. That's a long time in figure skating.
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She was mentioned in an article about another skater, not sure which skater, in late December. They article mentions Tsurskaya having surgery. I'm assuming on the ankle she hurt during last year's Junior World's.
Picture from today, in boots!
https://pp.vk.me/c636826/v636826760/4acc4/XRUpQOWZ128.jpg
Has Tursynbaeva left Orser or is it just occasional training?
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Tsurskaya's SP run-through
Medvedeva's practice
Zagitova's SP run-through
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So happy to see Tsurskaya on ice! I was worried about her injury, but it seems that she is recovering well. Nice to see her effortless big jumps and beautiful skating again.
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Cup of China 2016? She did pretty well in both parts of this event and finished 3rd overall. Unless the only thing passable for you as ''two good programs'' is Liza at her absolute best, with 0 errors and maximum technical content.
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I checked a couple of times to see if my eyes are cheating me:reye:Picture from today, in boots!
https://pp.vk.me/c636826/v636826760/4acc4/XRUpQOWZ128.jpg
Has Tursynbaeva left Orser or is it just occasional training?
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She is training there while in Moscow. She has not left Orser
Good to see that Medvedeva is working on a half loop combo and she's doing a four jump combo of course. 3Lo-3T-1Lo-3S. :thumbsup:
I would like it if she could get rid of the 2A-2T-2T combo in the FS.
What about 2A-1Lo-3S, then 3Lo-2T (or 2Lo), 2A as the last 3 jumping passes? She would repeat the 3Lo instead of the 3T, I think that would be a nice layout and quite beneficial point wise.
I would like it if she could get rid of the 2A-2T-2T combo in the FS.
What about 2A-1Lo-3S, then 3Lo-2T (or 2Lo), 2A as the last 3 jumping passes? She would repeat the 3Lo instead of the 3T, I think that would be a nice layout and quite beneficial point wise.
TAT ain't proud of Liza at all - she destroyed her live during nationals saying she can't skate much. Artistry and elegance is not her thing and she can only win with technical effort. The other commentator tried to oppose: "you don't become world champion, if you can't skate" to which TAT replied "yes, you do".
I may agree with Tat if Liza victory was one thing only (something like capellini lanote world title). But Liza in that year also one Gran prix final and Euro without 3a
Unfortunately what she gains with the 3Lo (0.8 points) she loses with the 1Lo. However if she's planning 3Lo-1Lo-3S then that removes the danger of accidentally doing 3 2Ts in her program, though at least you only lose the points for the 3rd 2T these days. The 4 jump combo won't be allowed, think she's just showing off/doing something harder so the actual combo will seem that much easier. Agree with you with the 2A-2T-2T, surprised she doesn't go down the 3F-2T-2Lo route, her best jump for combo purposes, plus if problems with the initial 3F-3T then revert to the 2A-2T-2T with the 2nd 3F becoming the 3F-3T just like in the GPF.
You're right, it wouldn't make a difference point wise. Shows that Eteri is a smart lady. I just think that the 2A-2T-2T isn't very appealing. I would at least wish for a 2A-2T-2Lo.
You're right, it wouldn't make a difference point wise. Shows that Eteri is a smart lady. I just think that the 2A-2T-2T isn't very appealing. I would at least wish for a 2A-2T-2Lo.
Yes, plus her 2A is definitely better this year, last year was definitely hold your breath time, but this year not so bad. If she can get more speed out of her 2A then what you say is definitely possible, plus avoids the messing about with potentially switching 3F combinations. Will have to see. I'm sure there's plenty of things they're considering, plus I wouldn't be surprised if they moved the 3F-3T into the second half following what happened at the GPF.
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