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I was sure I got either Adelina or Liza wrong, as I was kind of just going by whichever of the remaining names seemed to sound better.
2016-17 State of Russian Ladies skating
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Seriously?
I was sure I got either Adelina or Liza wrong, as I was kind of just going by whichever of the remaining names seemed to sound better.
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What "R" has to do with "B"?
I think it is just British rhyming slang. If your name is Edward you are Ed or Ted or Ned.
I read somewhere that originally this name was brought into use in the beginning of 19th century by nobility (makes sense, since it means literally "good genes"), and since back then nobility would usually speak French even among themselves, they would use French form Eugène (click the link for Google pronunciation). "Eu-" is then reduced for brevity, and the remaining "Zhen-" becomes "Zhenya" with diminutive suffix "-ya".
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Since Medvedeva is half Armenian, then it's logical.
As to the other skaters Wikipedia is our friend....
That's the way things work....
Talking about diminutive forms I really like Lenok for Elena. That's what she calls herself..
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It means only official groups of top Russian coaches.
No problem was to buy a ticket for skating a hour at "Snezhkom" or "Kommunarka" ice rink (together with about 15 others, most of them skate for entertainment).
I repeat - many Russian skaters do so if lack of official ice.
So I don't understand why Tursynbaeva trained in a shopping mall instead of such a kind of ice rink.
Very young skaters (9 y.o. or younger) sometimes skate at shopping mall ice, but elder prefer ice rinks.
There are about 20 ice rinks in Moscow and several ice rinks near Moscow.
It is not enough, there is serious lack of ice.
Only Team Russia members may get ice time to prepare new programs without other skaters, at night, for example from 2 to 5 a.m. twice or triple.
All the time from early morning to late evening is planned to:
1. official traning of sports groups of figure skating, hockey and (if any) short track,
2. so-called "health groups" which have a coach (not very high level) and students who pay monthly for about two 1-hour ice sessions a week. Anybody can be in such a group, skaters are divided by age (for example at "Khrustalny" are health groups only for children 4 to 15 y.o., other rinks may have groups for adult skaters too),
3. "mass skating" (about 1 hour a day), anybody can buy a ticket and skate. Some ice rinks have not mass skating.
Deniss Vasiljevs trains together with Lipnitskaia, coach Urmanov (olympic champion 1994).
Many not so well-known foreign skaters also train in Russia.
As Bob from Robert or Bessy from Elizabeth.
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Or Peggy from Margaret. There are diminutives that go pretty far back and maybe we don't really know exactly why - they just are. I think official short forms aren't as common in the West any more because names have become so much more individualized. Whereas in Russia, they tend to stick with a smaller pool of classic Russian names(I think sometimes a less common name becomes popularized - it seems to me names like Viktoria, Sofia , Angelina are more common now than during the Soviet era for example. Probably some named have fallen out of favour - like Svetlana or Olga.
Completely rambling, I've always found names interesting that's all.
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Speaking of Russian ladies: as I follow Russian figure skating, both on Facebook and Instagram, I find the Russian girls to be very open about their patriotism and faith. They always post memos on religious holidays, recently they all observed Resurrection, they are all very openly patriotic. I liked when they all posted memos commemorating Russian Victory Day (May 9). Medvedeva was on Russian TV during the Russian Victory celebration, Elena posted her grandpa's photo who was a war hero (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFMAAIjwYUj/?taken-by=lenok_radionova). She is an exact (but much prettier) copy of him! Also Yulia is never shy from showing her deep religious beliefs to the public.
I find it very very inspiring. As in the Western world we are all taught that demonstrating patriotism and faith is so uncool, the Russian girls give me hope about the world.
I find it very very inspiring. As in the Western world we are all taught that demonstrating patriotism and faith is so uncool, the Russian girls give me hope about the world.
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Evgenia also presented her private family correspondence from World War II period. She held old yellowed pages - silent, witnesses of dramatic history, right in her hands before the cameras... Found it very touching.
Many girls are posing in old military caps on Victory Day, posting short patriotic poems, pictures of veterans, graves, crosses with the phrases: "Nobody is forgotten!", "Love, Remember, Proud of" etc..
As you wrote, they celebrate Christian holidays all over the social media with a great joy and pride of their faith, greeting all their friends and fans. Reading their words, you can tell they're sincere.
They seem to be raised in profound respect and affection towards their Christian and patriotic heritage.
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you are not alone finding names interesting... many of us love these conversations.
Absolutely, tradition and respect to heritage are the fundaments of society and it's progress.
Julia Lipnitskaya describes herself as not very religious, but she's always wearing her orthodox cross and scapular in competition (sometimes she finishes routines with the necklet in her mouth
), some girls are crossing themselves bofore the skate (Tuktamysheva, Sotnikova), then of course they have this beautiful tradition of preparing the skating shows for veterans on Victory Day and other state holidays. The sight of elderly people sitting in the rink in full uniforms, smiling, laughing, crying, being celebrated and applauded by skaters on the ice, then receiving flowers, hugs and kisses from kids, parents, coaches and officials is so touching and amazing. For me, it's finest example of sport becoming a part of community, collective imagination and tradition itself.
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How about this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BE1xmlRELUm/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya ?
Where "Воскрес" means "Risen".
And yet another one: https://www.instagram.com/p/BC4uKj9ELZB/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/5rJ9JZELdq/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/1WV5dlELRQ/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
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How about this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BE1xmlRELUm/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya ?
Where "Воскрес" means "Risen".
And yet another one: https://www.instagram.com/p/BC4uKj9ELZB/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/5rJ9JZELdq/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/1WV5dlELRQ/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
I won't read too deep into it. A lot of these Christian holidays are also social traditions, and even not really religious people observe them. It's like Christmas in the USA - you won't call anyone religious just because they congratulate others with it.
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It was quite some time ago, indeed I might be wrong, she might have written something about not being exemplary practising rather than religious. Should be precise when bringing up facts of that kind, sorry for that. :hslap:How about this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BE1xmlRELUm/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya ?
Where "Воскрес" means "Risen".
And yet another one: https://www.instagram.com/p/BC4uKj9ELZB/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/5rJ9JZELdq/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
And this: https://www.instagram.com/p/1WV5dlELRQ/?taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya
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If you look at those posts they are not generic Santa Claus or Easter Bunny wishes. They are actually religious and they specifically and directly refer to the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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It's perfectly fine. I tell you this: truly religious people don't say "I am very religious". If they say it then it's very often a facade and a social statement. Truly religious people even belittle themselves in their faith. So Yulia's statement "I am not very religious" (I would have to see the exact words and context) may be just a sign of modesty.
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