2016-2017 Grand Prix selections

[Chemistry66]

If Anastasia Galustyan can get 2 GP's, wonder why Ivett Toth, Viveca Lindfors, Nathalie Weinzerl or Lutricia Bock didn't get considered for one of those spots? Their scores have been similar to date and none of their countries have reps in GP at the moment.
Should Yulia or Polina not be fit in time for their 2nd GP's, I'd hope that Mariah Bell could get a 2nd slot, or Kim Na Hyun. Or, failing which, one of those European skaters (especially Ivett or Viveca).

GP replacements are based on the SB scores from the previous season (though sometimes Challenger Series scores seem to get intermingled as they happen). Top 10 confirmed competing Senior who don't already have 2 assignments, I believe, with skaters moving up as others get second assignments or withdraw from injury. Galustyan was higher up on the list than any of the options you listed. Thanks to other substitutions, Weinzierl has now moved up to the alternates list and can be considered but Toth and Lindfors have not.

ETA: Lindfors and Toth are not THAT much further down on the 2015-2016 SB list, but given 2 events are over there's minimal chance for either to even move up to the eligible replacements list, let alone get picked.

 

[cathlen]

Mari VARTMANN/Ruben BLOMMAERT has replaced Ksenia & Fedor at NHK Trophy: http://static.isu.org/media/1031/gp_pairs_16-10-31.pdf

 

[Chemistry66]

*crosses fingers for Brendan as a replacement*

Always hoping that no-one is badly injured, of course.

karne and other Aussie skating fans will be happy at the latest update to the Trophee de France men's entries, with Brendan Kerry taking one of the empty spots as of today.

http://static.isu.org/media/1033/gp_men_16-11-01.pdf

 

[noskates]

What is wrong with this season?

Too many injuries from trying jumps their body's aren't ready for?

 

[chuckm]

GP replacements are based on the SB scores from the previous season (though sometimes Challenger Series scores seem to get intermingled as they happen). Top 10 confirmed competing Senior who don't already have 2 assignments, I believe, with skaters moving up as others get second assignments or withdraw from injury. Galustyan was higher up on the list than any of the options you listed. Thanks to other substitutions, Weinzierl has now moved up to the alternates list and can be considered but Toth and Lindfors have not.

ETA: Lindfors and Toth are not THAT much further down on the 2015-2016 SB list, but given 2 events are over there's minimal chance for either to even move up to the eligible replacements list, let alone get picked.

There aren't any vacancies, anyway. And it's getting later and later.

 

[YesWay]

karne and other Aussie skating fans will be happy at the latest update to the Trophee de France men's entries, with Brendan Kerry taking one of the empty spots as of today.

http://static.isu.org/media/1033/gp_men_16-11-01.pdf

Excellent! Must bring our Aus flag along with the others :-D

And credit to FFSG for proving (my) expectations wrong, and picking someone who could outscore Besseghier! :-D

 

[karne]

karne and other Aussie skating fans will be happy at the latest update to the Trophee de France men's entries, with Brendan Kerry taking one of the empty spots as of today.

http://static.isu.org/media/1033/gp_men_16-11-01.pdf

I am sad for Roman, but really really happy for Brendan! :yay: And this year he gets enough notice and not too close to Australian Nationals for his second!

 

[LeeJiHye19]

Don't you think that doing back to back GP will be a disadvantage for Javier? Last year if I remember it correctly, after CoC he has a week to practice before CoR but now he doesn't have that. I am not sure if it's actually a good or bad thing.

 

[Blades of Passion]

I don't think it will hurt him at all. He's added no new jumps this year and has kept his SP, so it's not like he will need the extra time to make big adjustments.

 

[karne]

Don't you think that doing back to back GP will be a disadvantage for Javier? Last year if I remember it correctly, after CoC he has a week to practice before CoR but now he doesn't have that. I am not sure if it's actually a good or bad thing.

You must also remember that as World Champion, Javier had first choice of what he wanted to do. He is back to back because he chose to be. The greater disadvantage is to someone like Max, who has CoR then CoC, which would entail either flying to Russia, flying back to America for a week, then flying back to China, or flying to Russia, training somewhere in Europe for a week, then heading on to China trying to reduce timezones, or someone like Brendan, who will have to fly to France, then either back to America for two weeks before flying to Australia, or fly to Australia to train out here a couple of weeks early.

 

[cathlen]

I don't think it will hurt him at all. He's added no new jumps this year and has kept his SP, so it's not like he will need the extra time to make big adjustments.

No new jumps, but Malaguena won't be excatly same as last season, they had done some changes to the program. But it's true he has chosen the assignments himself. Ha said in Ice Talk with Jackie Wong, that due to other obligations, he wouldn't be able to skate at SA or SC. And since NHK at CoC were out of question due to host picks, who come before Champion wishes, he was left with CoR and TDF, which isn't that bad, at least it's smiliar time zone and short travel.

 

[LeeJiHye19]

You must also remember that as World Champion, Javier had first choice of what he wanted to do. He is back to back because he chose to be.

I do know that since Javier is World Champion he has the privileged to choose his competitions first. But does he also know that COR and TDP will be back to back now? since it is not the case last year.

 

[NaVi]

You must also remember that as World Champion, Javier had first choice of what he wanted to do. He is back to back because he chose to be.

Hmm... Evgenia in an interview when asked why she didn't choose Cup of Russia she said that she couldn't get Skate America. I wonder if the federation told her that because the way the picks turned out Russia is pretty much guaranteed(unless there's a surprising upset which I don't discount) 2 spots in the GPF.

 

[TGee]

GP replacements are based on the SB scores from the previous season (though sometimes Challenger Series scores seem to get intermingled as they happen). Top 10 confirmed competing Senior who don't already have 2 assignments, I believe, with skaters moving up as others get second assignments or withdraw from injury. Galustyan was higher up on the list than any of the options you listed. Thanks to other substitutions, Weinzierl has now moved up to the alternates list and can be considered but Toth and Lindfors have not.

ETA: Lindfors and Toth are not THAT much further down on the 2015-2016 SB list, but given 2 events are over there's minimal chance for either to even move up to the eligible replacements list, let alone get picked.

I was wondering if there are any precedents regarding SB scores from the current GP season.

Kevin Reynolds is now ranked 10th for this season after his 3rd placed showing of 245.6 at Skate Canada. He also took silver at the Ondrej Nepala Challenger event with a score of 227.8 which had him ahead of Michal Brezina heading into GP season....

It was his only event, and his selection was as a host pick.

He had been off much of the 2015-2016 season due to injury, and posted a modest sub 200 SB at 4CC, relatively early in his rehabilitation.

So, the question is, is there provision for an previously ranked skater, who having effectively missed a season due to injury, is demonstrating that he is in the upper ranks of competition?

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editing to to clarify that Kevin Reynolds is # 10 overall in SB for 2016-17

In terms of this year's SBs he is #1 among those who do not have 2 GP spots....

 

[Pippuripihvi]

Hmm... Evgenia in an interview when asked why she didn't choose Cup of Russia she said that she couldn't get Skate America. I wonder if the federation told her that because the way the picks turned out Russia is pretty much guaranteed(unless there's a surprising upset which I don't discount) 2 spots in the GPF.

She couldn't get it because Ashley got it.

 

[NaVi]

She couldn't get it because Ashley got it.

Yeah, but Evgenia and not Ashley was world champion... the point is that the world champion may not automatically get their choice.

 

[Moxiejan]

Yeah, but Evgenia and not Ashley was world champion... the point is that the world champion may not automatically get their choice.

There can't be two skaters from the 1-3 worlds positions at the same GP event. Skate America wanted Ashley, which eliminated Evgenia as a possibility.

 

[chuckm]

HOST PICKS COME FIRST. The US picked Ashley, so Evgenia couldn't go to SA. Simple as that.

That's why Javi's choice came down to CoR and TDF. He couldn't pick CoC because China host-picked Jin, and he couldn't pick NHK because Japan host-picked Hanyu. Javi said he had commitments that prevented him from doing SA and SC, so he had to choose CoR and TDF.

 

[NaVi]

There can't be two skaters from the 1-3 worlds positions at the same GP event. Skate America wanted Ashley, which eliminated Evgenia as a possibility.

You do realize I was replying to this right?

You must also remember that as World Champion, Javier had first choice of what he wanted to do. He is back to back because he chose to be.

 

[snowflake]

You must also remember that as World Champion, Javier had first choice of what he wanted to do. He is back to back because he chose to be. The greater disadvantage is to someone like Max, who has CoR then CoC, which would entail either flying to Russia, flying back to America for a week, then flying back to China, or flying to Russia, training somewhere in Europe for a week, then heading on to China trying to reduce timezones, or someone like Brendan, who will have to fly to France, then either back to America for two weeks before flying to Australia, or fly to Australia to train out here a couple of weeks early.

LOL, I'm so sorry for your favorites' big unluck :sarcasm: I'm sure they'll do fine

Actually I think it's more bad for Max to not have a top US man to compete with at his Grand Prix competitions. Could have given him good experience/knowledge about fellow competitors before nationals, which is very important this season, US guys having two spots for worlds.