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And because Konstatinova did well at Russian Nats and they totally ignored international results. Such confusing reasons.
2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating
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Yep. Scoring potential has at least 20 points of difference, probably closer to 30 points. Polina on the other hand has a real chance of even doing better than a more or less clean Sotskova. And I can't exactly say Stanislava even is more consistent than Polina. Stanislava also is a year younger, still a junior... Polina's, by the way, also won every official junior competition she's taken part in, which is 6 competitions and 6 victories.
Well, Konstantinova also scored over 70 PCS there.
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I'm really sad about Zhenya withdrawing but Konstantinova or not, I've no doubt about the 3 spots being kept perfectly fine between Alina and Masha. There's not that many skaters participating who can outskate even a Masha with mistakes enough to place her below Top 10.
Get well soon, Zhenya!
Get well soon, Zhenya!
Here's the thing: if RusFed wants to invest that much on Konstantinova, try to make her the best skater possible. Send her to Lambiel, Marina Zoueva someone who can improve her skating skills and her posture.
She's not a bad skater by any means, it's just that right now there are at least 3-4 skaters in seniors and others in juniors that are more polished, more consistent and deserve that spot at Worlds.
With two clean skates she could do fine at Worlds, this is a huge opportunity for her.
3F-3T
3ltz
3lo-1lo-3F x
3lo x
3s-2t x
2a x
2a x
Is this worth less than her usual layout? how?
She's not a bad skater by any means, it's just that right now there are at least 3-4 skaters in seniors and others in juniors that are more polished, more consistent and deserve that spot at Worlds.
With two clean skates she could do fine at Worlds, this is a huge opportunity for her.
3F-3T
3ltz
3lo-1lo-3F x
3lo x
3s-2t x
2a x
2a x
Is this worth less than her usual layout? how?
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i just hope judges at WC can differentiate between her flip and loop, because i can't 
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The first 2 jumping passes are the same and we don't need to consider backloading, so:
3Lo-1Lo-3F 10.9
3Lo 5.1
3S-2T 5.7
2A 3.3
2A 3.3
Total: 28.30
Current layout:
3F 5.3
3Lo 5.1
2A+2T+2T 5.9
3S+3T 8.7
2A 3.3
Total: 28.30
Actually, I was wrong because that assumption assumed that she skater would perform the -2T-2Lo combination rather than the -2T-2T(which she really should change to -2T-2Lo). But in any case, a waste of time. You need to repeat the Lutz for that to be worthwhile, then it'd gain 0.2 points in base value.
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So...
Alina can win worlds. No one else can do it unless she makes mistakes, but she's proven herself this year.
So, based on Olympic placement:
Alina
Osmond
Miyahara
Kostner
(Sakamoto) -- let's put Higuchi here
Choi
Sotskova
Tennell
the only one who could play spoiler here is Nagasu if she lands her 3A in both programs
but that'd only push Masha down one spot
so Russia should be fine, but Alina needs to hold up under the pressure and Masha needs to skate cleanly
Alina can win worlds. No one else can do it unless she makes mistakes, but she's proven herself this year.
So, based on Olympic placement:
Alina
Osmond
Miyahara
Kostner
(Sakamoto) -- let's put Higuchi here
Choi
Sotskova
Tennell
the only one who could play spoiler here is Nagasu if she lands her 3A in both programs
but that'd only push Masha down one spot
so Russia should be fine, but Alina needs to hold up under the pressure and Masha needs to skate cleanly
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Why Stasya cannot repeat lutz? I thought it was her flip that had an edge problem
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You forgot Daleman, who could potentially also place higher. But I seriously doubt all these women will place higher than Masha.
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Dear puremagic, what do you think about Sonya Titova? I heard she is with Eteri now
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RuFed thinks those 2 are both 75+ PCs Kareninas, just saying. If you don't see that, you need to have a talk with TAT
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I'd like to have a talk with TAT, but on a different topic
I am not a fan of konstantinova to go to Worlds because she already got the junior worlds spot! But RusFed just nominated her and tsurskaya as substitude and tsurscaya recent showing at russian cup final wasn't better than konstantinova at junior worlds!
So i can see why they send her!
So i can see why they send her!
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Good skating skills, but overall hard to say. [emoji848] There are several ladies of 2009 year who can jump the same or more difficult layout. But with Eteri she'll be consistent, that's most important. She won today's competition.
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