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2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

Yes, it seems that the ability to win is all that matters to some, no matter how clinical the skating (not saying it applies to Kostornaya, but some others...) and the rest can be thrown under the bus and forgotten. And what really gets me is that people here will be excessively kind to far more mediocre skaters from other countries but nitpick the Russians to death. Then they get all excited for the "Hunger Games" and "bloodbaths"...well, it shows you how much the individuals are valued.

Sometimes what I love in FS is the way it follows the everyday life through the programms , the preparation , the info from the interview it gets. Sometimes I may not take anymore much of pleasure because of the lack of artistry , but it is amazing to parallalize these things. We live in the century when people have no value , they can be consumed. Exactly that is what I see in the russian fields lady. And the bloodbath we are eager to see is somehow to take a "revenge" for the bloodbath some others want to see in us when it comes to our professional careers , university , relationships and mostly jobs. It has some pshychianalytic roots because what they have done to us ( as childs from our parents ) we uncosciounsly and subconsciously want to see it to others. I put myself in that of course , that's why I believe we should try and think more before letting ourselves to that side of this sport.
Too much Freud and Lacan , I hope I didn't tire anyone 😛 not offend of course. Itis great to share opinions !
 
Exactly. This is just so what I meant.
The final painting touch is the fact that Radionova left Goncharenko and joined Buyanova only recently - this summer.

I assumed Elena left Goncharenko because of Goncharenko's health problems, not because of any drama....
 
I assumed Elena left Goncharenko because of Goncharenko's health problems, not because of any drama....

She seemed honest when she said that she moved because they weren't making any progress anymore as a team (and it showed and it's normal). I don't remember her implying anything about Goncharenko's health problem but I could be wrong.
 
I assumed Elena left Goncharenko because of Goncharenko's health problems, not because of any drama....

Goncharenko is fine, looking at her watching Katya Kurakova :)

The problem with mistress Buyanova. She has some magic, which could brush URs/bad landings in TES, and raise skater's PCS to the sky. So Russian Nationals will be very dangerous. Two beautiful but not stable girls with powerful mistress. I'm afraid that even not clean skate by Maria/Lena will beat clean skate by Polina/Anna. She needs a girl at Olympics. 1-2 places are booked. And the war for the third place is already started.
 
I assumed Elena left Goncharenko because of Goncharenko's health problems, not because of any drama....

There wasn't any drama. The arrangements stopped working for Elena and she stopped progressing. Her biggest competitor currently is Sotskova, (Medvedeva and Zagitova are currently out of her reach and if Pogorilaya is in her full strength, she will be better than Elena too), so Elena made a very clever choice - she went to Sotskova's coach. This will ensure that if there was a choice between Sotskova and Radionova, none of them will have an advantage by having a coach with more influence. The field is level, so any choice would be made based on their skating.
 
I see no serious rivals for Zhenya and Sasha at Ondrej Nepela Trophy and JGP Minsk Arena Cup respectively
 
It seems Elena thinks if she skates two clean programs she can beat Evgenia.

Oh? When did Elena say that, or where did you get that impression? She may have thought that 2 seasons ago when Evgenia was a new senior, but I don't think she's that naive to think that now.
 
Elena's task is to get into the team because the third place in the team is "for grabs". That's her current focus, I would imagine. But let's not forget that Radionova is so far the only skater who beat Medvedeva during her senior career. And during her junior career Medvedeva competed internationally 9 times with 7 golds and 2 bronzes. And one time when she had a bronze she lost to Radionova. Radionova also won 2014 Russian nationals with Medvedeva's third. Then Elena has the best track record against Evgenya of all current skaters...but it has little to do with her real chances now unless something unexpected happens.
 
That track record does not mean anything anymore; it's just history.
Evgenia has been improving year after year, and Elena has been declining two years in a row. Based on her test skates, magic did not happen with her new coach over the summer yet. She showed better ss in the LP, but her lack of energy in the second half is very noticeable. Her strength used to be her performance and ability to engage audience, which is completely absent in the test skate.

Elena's task is to get into the team because the third place in the team is "for grabs". That's her current focus, I would imagine. But let's not forget that Radionova is so far the only skater who beat Medvedeva during her senior career. And during her junior career Medvedeva competed internationally 9 times with 7 golds and 2 bronzes. And one time when she had a bronze she lost to Radionova. Radionova also won 2014 Russian nationals with Medvedeva's third. Then Elena has the best track record against Evgenya of all current skaters...but it has little to do with her real chances now unless something unexpected happens.
 
i don't see elena even beating the other korean girl in her current shape (can't remember her name, but' it's not dabin choi and she was quite good and underscored at worlds). if i bet my money on a silver at nepela, i will rather bet on korean girl.
 
Who is Valeriia MIKHAILOVA? Never heard about her. Too bad Konstantinova lost her chance, because even when she falls, she is enjoyable to watch.
 
i don't see elena even beating the other korean girl in her current shape (can't remember her name, but' it's not dabin choi and she was quite good and underscored at worlds). if i bet my money on a silver at nepela, i will rather bet on korean girl.

oops i mixed up a little. dabin choi was placed 10th at worlds. and i've seen the other girl in somewhere else.
still it's gonna be hard for elena to overcome dabin choi. and there's rika hongo, leonova and caroline zhang. so i'm not sure that elena will end up on the podium
 
oops i mixed up a little. dabin choi was placed 10th at worlds. and i've seen the other girl in somewhere else.
still it's gonna be hard for elena to overcome dabin choi. and there's rika hongo, leonova and caroline zhang. so i'm not sure that elena will end up on the podium

Park So-Youn? She got injured and I don't think fully recovered. Her Salchow was so boss!!
 
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