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2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

I'm serious: obviously i was minimizing just not to digress too much, but each country share its own cultural similarities with Russia. (and keep in mind that Russia is a huge country with many recognized ethnic groups, so not just one culture, one heritage)

All slavic countries shares many things, i was actually quite impressed how croatians understand russian well without knowing the language, in some case it's even a closer heritage than what Latin countries have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages

Even romanian, although it is a Latin language has a slavic influence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_influence_on_Romanian

The other big group are the Uralic Languages spoken in countries like Hungary, Finland and yet again Russia thanks to udmurt (Alina Zagitova should speak it), komi spoken in few repubblics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

Then Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan belongs to the Turkic culture, and Turkic languages are also spoken in Russia (Tatars)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples#Language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages

From a political perspective all ex communists or still communists from that area share similarities with Russia.

Then we have similarities due to migrations: for instance there are up to 1.5 mln russian speaking Israelis from various ethnic groups. (Daniel Samohin)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language_in_Israel

Tukhtamysheva is udmurt, not Zagitova. And Romania has nothing to do with the Slavs..you are wrong.. And we Hungarians came from Asia but we have nothing to do with the Slavs, too. WE don't understand very different language
 
Just checked Gdansk's entry list. I'd say for participating of Alena there is more pros than cons. Daria Panenkova + Eunsoo Lim + two Japanese girls (which is always very strong). I mean, rusfed should take it into account, that theoretically place for Stasya there also 3rd-4th. Stasya already has 11 points. Eun Soo and Rika have 13 points. So, for example: 11+11 = 22 points against Eunsoo's 26 points and Rika's 26 points. Or 13+11 = 24 points, if Stasya will manage to beat someone. Anyway, chances are low. There is the only one right decision!

They didn't update the ladies standings after Minsk yet. I also remember, someone said Stasya will skate at Nebelhorn Trophy 2017, but she's not in the list there. So maybe we'll see her at another Challenger. She needs to earn rating points.

the right decision was to send trusova, tarakanova, kostornaya and panenkova to events with rika and eunsoo. they all can defeat them and clear the way to the final for other russian girls.
but rusfed don't follow the grand scheme, they don't understand that it's a war for supremacy, and you should atack the enemy with your best forces.:laugh:
honestly, i want to see rika and eunsoo in the final, it's not gonna be so interesting to have russian nationals all over again.
sasha should defeat some international names in the final on her way to glory
 
Am i missing something?

Wasn't Plushenko school very expensive? and Serafima's family not so wealthy?

Anyway this might actually be a good move for her, hope for the best.

Plushenko gives grants to the poor pupils.. he not only works with them for free but he pays accommodation, medical treatment, and medicine for the talented but poor skaters
 
Plushenko gives grants to the poor pupils.. he not only works with them for free but he pays accommodation, medical treatment, and medicine for the talented but poor skaters

Looking forward to see Plushy at Russian Nationals 2018 coaching Serafima!
 
Plushenko gives grants to the poor pupils.. he not only works with them for free but he pays accommodation, medical treatment, and medicine for the talented but poor skaters

Good to know, i think that Serafima is still a great skater and she can return to her old form, it's just a matter of confidence.
 
Good to know, i think that Serafima is still a great skater and she can return to her old form, it's just a matter of confidence.

You had experience what did the Russian media with Yulia Lipni who are a cute, young, beautiful lady..Can you imagine what did the media with Plushenko over the years, who is a real celebrity, who always wanted to do unexpexted things who was a pioneer in many things? Yana, Plushenko's wife and agent in Russia explained the prices but they didn't care about it..They shouted and repeated the most expensive price only ! because they can make scandal with it. And Plushenko isn't that person who explains something again and again..He said something what is the truth but he doesn't care about the stupidity, envy and the haters.
One thing is very important. They have a smaller ice rink as the normal his tudent were in Novogorsk before the competition. But Plushenko will solve the problem. He will build a new ice rink soon. He negotiates about the territory.
 
Not justwith Sima. Vladimir Samoylov also his student he will compet at nationals, too.. He will compete in Italian JGP tow weeks later

I've heard he said very rude things about Eteri and Zhenya after moving to Plushy. Also, he has no talent, and can't skate clean programs. At the last competition he won against 13-14 yo boys. What an achievement.

I wish Plushy will leave him. This character doesn't deserve to be coached by him.
 
the right decision was to send trusova, tarakanova, kostornaya and panenkova to events with rika and eunsoo. they all can defeat them and clear the way to the final for other russian girls.
but rusfed don't follow the grand scheme, they don't understand that it's a war for supremacy, and you should atack the enemy with your best forces.:laugh:
honestly, i want to see rika and eunsoo in the final, it's not gonna be so interesting to have russian nationals all over again.
sasha should defeat some international names in the final on her way to glory

Don't forget about Mako and You! Mako already has 11 points. If she will manage to beat Sonya and You, and get 13 points, then with 24 points she will have not bad chances to get to the final (instead of Eunsoo, Nastya or Rika).
 
I've heard he said very rude things about Eteri and Zhenya after moving to Plushy. Also, he has no talent, and can't skate clean programs. At the last competition he won against 13-14 yo boys. What an achievement.

I wish Plushy will leave him. This character doesn't deserve to be coached by him.

It seems Plushy and his team coach Vova seriously.. My Russian friend said Vova is talented but very inconsistent. And I really believe Plushenko is the person who can raise him as a person. Plushenko is strict coach especially with the boys. Yes, in the last competition he won against young guys but he received good marks and he landed in good 3A , 4S and he tried to do 4F! He landed in perfect 4F in training.

I hope Plushenko's students feel this:

Sergei Voronov: "When you are next to an extraordinary person, and Plushenko is an extraordinary person, it's not just a compliment, you start to feel different. It's another atmosphere, another energy, another attitude. Strong competitors make you stronger."
 
Is polina T competing at any senior B? Also I tried opening the Grand Prix assignments list but it won't open. Which GPs will she be in?
 
Alisa Fedichkina should follow..[emoji16]

The chances of her leaving SPB and her boyfriend to go train with a still unproven coach in Moscow are extremely slim. And she would still have to deal with puberty no matter where she trains. Sima's situation is different - she is older (past the worst of puberty), not in the national team and she has nothing to lose at this point. I very much hope Plushenko can help her and make her competitive again but I just can't with all these silly kneejerk responses that everyone should just change their coach to Plushy or Tutberidze and it will solve all their problems. Plushy has not proven himself yet (I believe in him in the longterm, but he is literally just getting started), there is no more room at the inn at Eteri's school. Sure, maybe Alisa will want to change coaches sometime down the road. If/when she's ready, then she will. But "just change coaches!" doesn't magically fix everything. See: Yulia, Elena, Sima with the last 2 coaching changes, etc.
 
Very good news! I thought that she would consider changing coaches. I didn't think about Plushenko but he is very motivated now and seems to have a good team.

And he is a very competitive person so he will want to prove himself, which means he will try really hard to get some results out of her. Alternatively, she could go to Urmanov. Urmanov seemed to help Lipnitskaya get back her jumps and fix her technique. The SP she did at the nationals after just a few months of being with Urmanov was brilliant.
 
It seems Plushy and his team coach Vova seriously.. My Russian friend said Vova is talented but very inconsistent. And I really believe Plushenko is the person who can raise him as a person. Plushenko is strict coach especially with the boys. Yes, in the last competition he won against young guys but he received good marks and he landed in good 3A , 4S and he tried to do 4F! He landed in perfect 4F in training.

I hope Plushenko's students feel this:

Sergei Voronov: "When you are next to an extraordinary person, and Plushenko is an extraordinary person, it's not just a compliment, you start to feel different. It's another atmosphere, another energy, another attitude. Strong competitors make you stronger."

This comment is completely true!! I've obviously never worked with Plushy but, he's legend and I can only imagine what the parents think when they see their child skating around with Evgeni Plushenko..:bow: All he did was walk by me and I almost fainted. Even if the younger students don't really understand who he is, he is already their teacher, friend, and mentor. Fortunately, they will have these clips of their younger days to look back on when they get older. If they should reach their dream and win an OGM, I'm sure these clips will be on every talk show appearance they make. They'll be a wonderful memory for these skaters to look back on.

Thanks Plushyfan.....:thank:
 
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