2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

[atsumiri]

Attention, citizens of the Golden Skate planet!

Today will start the Russian Cup Stage three with the ladies programs!

Juniors SP 17:15 - 20:45
Seniors SP 21:00 - 23:00

Juniors SP started.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Oh they're starting early !?

 

[Spirals for Miles]

After three groups (out of five) Ksenia Sinitsina is currently leading!

 

[lavenderblossom]

After three groups (out of five) Ksenia Sinitsina is currently leading!

There is a thread in Russian national events for this competiton y'know. Would be nice to not be alone in there

 

[puremagic]

Cute reincarnation of Irina Slutskaya

 

[Spirals for Miles]

So cute! I can't remember Irina in anything but red, though that was before the days of my fandom of skating...

 

[anyanka]

I hate to say it and I hope I'm wrong, but Anna's done for this cycle. Given what the coach allegedly said to her in the kiss and cry, it seems she's not getting the emotional support she needs, and her back is still bothering her.

Zhenya and likely Alina aside, the third spot for 2018 OG will be a fight between Polina, Masha, Lena and maybe Liza if she gets her jumps back. Now that Yulia is retired and Adelina's out for the year, it's becoming a bit clearer as to who will likely contend for that third Olympic spot.

My entire face dropped just typing this, but I'm a realist. I don't the feds are going to support her much longer, not when there are so many others coming up behind Pogo.

 

[alskling]

In seniors: Polina TSURSKAYA, Anastasia GUBANOVA, Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA, Alisa FEDICHKINA.

Live stream is here.

Tsurskaya just... :clapper: 72.14

 

[puremagic]

I agree with Gubanova's scores but Konstantinova is again overscored. More PCS than Gubanova with fall and bad posture? Just ridiculous. Yeah, she is super fast, but skating is not only about the speed. :disapp:

 

[Resa]

I hate to say it and I hope I'm wrong, but Anna's done for this cycle. Given what the coach allegedly said to her in the kiss and cry, it seems she's not getting the emotional support she needs, and her back is still bothering her.

Zhenya and likely Alina aside, the third spot for 2018 OG will be a fight between Polina, Masha, Lena and maybe Liza if she gets her jumps back. Now that Yulia is retired and Adelina's out for the year, it's becoming a bit clearer as to who will likely contend for that third Olympic spot.

My entire face dropped just typing this, but I'm a realist. I don't the feds are going to support her much longer, not when there are so many others coming up behind Pogo.

What did the coach say to her?

 

[atsumiri]

I agree with Gubanova's scores but Konstantinova is again overscored. More PCS than Gubanova with fall and bad posture? Just ridiculous. Yeah, she is super fast, but skating is not only about the speed. :disapp:

I can't stand her posture and hands... just can't

 

[Grin]

Trusova was good. But I think she didn't try to do her best

 

[Shayuki]

I can't stand her posture and hands... just can't

Yep and her presentation also is still very juniorish which is troubling considering her age. Sure, give her a relatively high SS score if necessary but at least let the other flaws balance it out. And If they're trying to pump her scores up for Olympics(only explanation I can think of), why isn't she in seniors this season? We already saw that when she doesn't get artificially pumped up scores like in her JGP event she really is a rather mediocre skater for Russia's standards. And this while being 2-4 years older than her competition!

Looking at the TES I also have to wonder what they're doing with the GOEs.

 

[alskling]

Guys, you know... I very like Stanislava, but win over clean Gubanova..hmm.

 

[atsumiri]

Guys, you know... I very like Stanislava, but win over clean Gubanova..hmm.

- 2 bonus points for spins.
and real scores 66.68

 

[Shayuki]

- 2 bonus points for spins.
and real scores 66.68

PCS 3 points too high, too high GOEs. Bonus or not.

Or alternatively, Gubanova is underscored - Which also is the case.

 

[puremagic]

- 2 bonus points for spins.
and real scores 66.68

Also four judges gave her only -2 for the fall, not -3, and with fall she got level 3 on the stsq...

 

[alskling]

- 2 bonus points for spins.
and real scores 66.68

Oh. thanks. It's ok then.

 

[Shayuki]

Oh. thanks. It's ok then.

Totally OK Konstantinova falling on SS gets 1.64 higher PCS than Gubanova? Right...

 

[Alifyre]

What did the coach say to her?

There is my attempt to translate their conversation ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmpckb1p4fs )

Tsareva: Now we have to work on free skate as on short program. There is no other way. Why are you always "dying", I can't understand? Your legs are not behaving?
Pogo: What?
Tsareva: Your legs are not behaving?
Pogo: I tried to calm down myself, but vise versa...
Tsareva: Oh, I see.
Pogo: I'm trying but... (shows how she was shaking)
Tsareva: Don't you think that you have more skate from the beginning to the end? The programme. More skate it from the beginning to the end at trainings? Not once a week but more often?
Pogo: Did I "die" at this FS?
Tsareva: You just should watch it taped.
Pogo: I will, but it was much better and easier.
Tsareva: Oh, I don't know, what if harder is better?

(pause to listen the points)

Pogo: And entrance into a spin I didn't performed too?
Tsareva: Anya, watch it later in slow motion, with what wooden legs did you skate.
Pogo: Watch how did [you] twitch me.
Tsareva: I will not come close to you at all. If you want, you can fly to next skate alone. You should have prepare well.

^^ Taken from Anna's Fanfest, a fan translation. However, the fed director announced she is getting a medical examination for her back and there has been no word from Tsareva defending herself, so it looks like the fed may be stepping in rather than abandoning Anya.