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2017-18 State of U.S. Ladies Skating

btw, were there any clean performances at those Nats? i mean without falls/pops/URs/edges?
i just don't have time to watch everything, so i would like to watch the best programs technical-wise
 
Separate topic..... Do you think if Bradie got rid of the crown and got a different dress for the long, the program would have a more mature and polished look?

Also, Bradie doesn’t seem at all princess-y in interviews. If she kept the program exactly and merely changed the costume, don’t you think it would suit her more?
 
btw, were there any clean performances at those Nats? i mean without falls/pops/URs/edges?
i just don't have time to watch everything, so i would like to watch the best programs technical-wise

Bradie and Starr. Mirai is also worth the watch despite UR lutz and step out on TRIPLE axel. I would also say Mariah Bell because her only mistake was a silly fall on a 2a at the very end.
 
btw, were there any clean performances at those Nats? i mean without falls/pops/URs/edges?
i just don't have time to watch everything, so i would like to watch the best programs technical-wise

If by "those" you refer to 2014, I think Gracie's was clean, but would need to double-check
 
no, i mean current Nationals (is "these" more correct in this context? my english sucks :biggrin:)

And yes, "these" indicates closeness (ie this year) while "those" is for used for things that are further away (aka any other nationals). Your English is quite good! As an ESL teacher I find that a lot of people struggle with this/that and these/those so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
Finally watched the FS because I had work travel yesterday. I watched the final group twice, once with sound on and second without. Was pleasantly surprised by Mariah, Mirai, and Bradie and their in betweens. I don't understand what Ashley is so furious about. She was skating element to element with a red carpet smile the whole time, no connection to the struggles outlined in La La Land. Mirai was finally performing after her first 3 jumping pass, and I would surprisingly have the highest PE and INT of the night to her. Bradie and Karen should be tied SS wise, with Bradie with higher TR and CH (with Mirai not too far behind in CH). Bradie deserved the win but the gap should have been closer. Mariah should have been closer to bronze, held down PCS wise. Karen's jumps were iffy and I dunno if an international panel would've placed her second. Starr deserves JW but needs another junior competition instead of 4CC. Give Angela 4CC, and give Starr a junior B so she can work on her lutz.
 
Finally watched the FS because I had work travel yesterday. I watched the final group twice, once with sound on and second without. Was pleasantly surprised by Mariah, Mirai, and Bradie and their in betweens. I don't understand what Ashley is so furious about. She was skating element to element with a red carpet smile the whole time, no connection to the struggles outlined in La La Land. Mirai was finally performing after her first 3 jumping pass, and I would surprisingly have the highest PE and INT of the night to her. Bradie and Karen should be tied SS wise, with Bradie with higher TR and CH (with Mirai not too far behind in CH). Bradie deserved the win but the gap should have been closer. Mariah should have been closer to bronze, held down PCS wise. Karen's jumps were iffy and I dunno if an international panel would've placed her second. Starr deserves JW but needs another junior competition instead of 4CC. Give Angela 4CC, and give Starr a junior B so she can work on her lutz.
Agree with everything you said 100% but I am happy Starr got 4CC, good experience.
 
Which was due in part to her attempting easier tech content

Absolutely, which I think makes my point even further. While Bradie remains untested on a major stage, this nationals says to me that right now the US ladies still aren't up to snuff to contend for medals internationally. Which, we knew that, but it's still a little sad to see confirmed.
 
I just watched Mirai's FS reaction again and it seriously makes me cry tears of joy.....I'm so proud of her for holding it together under a ton of pressure.....
 
PSA saying that US ladies won’t contend for the podium for the 3938258328th time, contrary to popular belief, is NOT news, and will NOT make this discussion pointless. Shocker, I know :eekn:
 
The biggest shocker and most questionable decision by USFSA for me is that Angela Wang was not selected for Four Continents. Not only was she underscored in PCS but her content was far, far more difficult than Starr Andrews, who skated cleanly but with no lutz (and only one flip). That is not senior-level content, and it is mind-boggling to select Starr for both 4CCs and Junior Worlds when there is a far more competitive senior who earned the shot for 4CCs.

I was quite happy for Starr and her performance but she hasn't even skated at a senior Grand Prix, and we're sending her to a senior ISU championships? Angela Wang absolutely deserved it.
 
The biggest shocker and most questionable decision by USFSA for me is that Angela Wang was not selected for Four Continents. Not only was she underscored in PCS but her content was far, far more difficult than Starr Andrews, who skated cleanly but with no lutz (and only one flip). That is not senior-level content, and it is mind-boggling to select Starr for both 4CCs and Junior Worlds when there is a far more competitive senior who earned the shot for 4CCs.

I was quite happy for Starr and her performance but she hasn't even skated at a senior Grand Prix, and we're sending her to a senior ISU championships? Angela Wang absolutely deserved it.

Who are the members of the 4CC Team??? I agree with you on Angela.....Starr has the future written all over her but, Angela is the present and she should have been on the team..
 
The decision went exactly as (I) expected after the FS was finished - top 3 to the Olympics and Worlds, 4-6 to 4CC. Glad for skaters who get to go to Korea, sad for those who had a chance to and missed out.

I do not think any of the US girls has a chance of an individual medal, but one or two will walk away with a team medal.

Also: These nationals left me with a feeling the USFS is desperate for their next big skater who is a contender for World podiums/top 5 NOW (not in 5 years) and who will attract the next generation of skaters. I think Russian ladies spoiled us all a little bit. After Medvedeva appeared (and then Zagitova and all these other consistent girls) we kind of expect that every skater who comes out of nowhere and does well will be the next big thing. Mariah with her GP silver last year, Karen's win at nationals, Bradie's consistency this year, Courtney's SP earlier this year (SA?). And then we end up disappointed with, say, Karen's 4th place at Worlds.
 
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