2018-19 Canadian figure skating

[Scout]

I'd also say Alaine is Canada's #2.

Larkyn had a moment, Alaine has had several. Alaine also has tougher technical content.

Alaine withdrew from Minto; does anyone know why?

 

[Lamente Ariane]

I'd also say Alaine is Canada's #2.

Larkyn had a moment, Alaine has had several. Alaine also has tougher technical content.

Alaine withdrew from Minto; does anyone know why?

Alaine is skating at the Quebec summer event next weekend. Presumably she didn't want to do two competitions two weeks in a row.

 

[chuckm]

The Quebec event is in TWO weeks, not next week (Wild Rose is next week). Maybe Alaine isn't quite ready with her programs---if so, she is smart to wait.

 

[Lamente Ariane]

The Quebec event is in TWO weeks, not next week (Wild Rose is next week). Maybe Alaine isn't quite ready with her programs---if so, she is smart to wait.

My mistake, I must have misread the dates. Agreed that she should debut her programs when she's good and ready.

 

[TGee]

I'd also say Alaine is Canada's #2.

Larkyn had a moment, Alaine has had several. Alaine also has tougher technical content.

Alaine withdrew from Minto; does anyone know why?

She has had a longstanding pattern of debuting her programs at Minto as she is from Eastern Ontario. So that entry probably went in before her plans were sorted out for the season.

However, she's just made a complete change of living situation, training site and coaching, and is getting ready to start university in the fall.

If the programs weren't ready, and it sounds as though choreo on one was done recently, then Tracey and Gregor at YRSA would have encouraged her to wait.

And as Alaine has put it, this is the season of new everything.

See GS' recent interview :

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/goldenskate.com/amp/2018/07/alaine-chartrand-this-season-is-for-me/

 

[TGee]

But what about the girl who comes 2nd? Sure, she can line up her scores and say "I am 5th overall" or whatever. But most won't do that. They'll take their silver medal and be happy.

Give the top girls a chance to compete against each other. It encourages consistency. It gives them an opportunity to learn to perform under the pressure of tougher competition. Most girls that got a medal in the preliminary flight won't get a medal in the final flight. It'll be a bit more of a mini Canadians/Challenge/Sectionals. This can provide motivation to train harder in preparation for their main competition. At the end of the day, the hope is that they become better, stronger skaters in the long run. That they push harder to get a jump consistent and ready for the next competition.

Once you're actually on the ice...it's just about you. Doing your best, because that's all you can do. Forget your competitors. But once your few minutes on the ice is done, then use the competition results to push yourself to become a better skater/athlete everyday in practice.

This final flight is not just the specific competition itself, but the impact it will have in training afterwards.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Those young women are looking at their scores and their series ranking more than the placement on any single podium. On any week, all of them know their rank in their sections and nationally.

And a gold medal with a score lower than the number 2 in another flight will not send any of them home happy.

In fact, the top score of the whole event without demonstrating the NextGen required elements needed to make the cut for international assignments... or the total score cut-off will also be a shrug, not a joy.

 

[4everchan]

TGee is 100% right.... Scout, are you aware of the nextgen requirements?

That may help you understand why it doesn't mean anything to have these girls have an show down..... it's all about elements they succeed not about placing ahead of one another.

 

[Scout]

TGee is 100% right.... Scout, are you aware of the nextgen requirements?

That may help you understand why it doesn't mean anything to have these girls have an show down..... it's all about elements they succeed not about placing ahead of one another.

I don't know the specifics of Next Gen requirements, but I am aware that skaters must demonstrate a certain minimum score and a certain level of skill, and the fewer years left on the jgp circuit, the tougher the requirements. So a young skater with many years left on the jgp circuit will need to demonstrate X triple jumps and a 3-3 attempt, whereas an older skater with fewer years on the circuit will need to demonstrate ability to land more than X triples and land a 3-3 or something. If I'm missing something important about the criteria...feel free to enlighten me

But as you and TGee both previously stated, I can agree that we'll have to disagree on this one. Because I would say that having final flights (for all levels) will help push skaters and help them develop and acquire skills faster, thus increasing their potential for success in meeting NextGen criteria. If more pre-novice girls can land 3 different triples, then they'll be in better shape to meet the Next Gen requirements in the future when they become novice/junior. Tougher competition helps make the individual athlete better. I have given some examples and can given more. But I'm good to leave this here, as we're just going to be re-hashing arguments.

 

[Haleth]

I don't recall seeing this mentioned above, so the GTSA Summer Skate entry lists are up: http://skateontario.org/results/18S2/index.htm

Some highlights from the singles' lists : Keegan, Nam, Roman, and Bennet are all entered for the senior men. Gabby and Michelle Long for the senior women. Stephen, Conrad, and Corey are listed for junior men, but I won't be surprised if they WD because of their early JPG assignments. Bruce is also listed as entered in the same category, but he is slated for Linz as well in his capacity as an ice dancer with Natalie. Aurora is entered for the ladies, but like Stephen she's slated for Slovakia, so she may WD. Alison, scheduled for Linz, may also WD if she feels time is too tight.

 

[4everchan]

I don't recall seeing this mentioned above, so the GTSA Summer Skate entry lists are up: http://skateontario.org/results/18S2/index.htm

Some highlights from the singles' lists : Keegan, Nam, Roman, and Bennet are all entered for the senior men. Gabby and Michelle Long for the senior women. Stephen, Conrad, and Corey are listed for junior men, but I won't be surprised if they WD because of their early JPG assignments. Bruce is also listed as entered in the same category, but he is slated for Linz as well in his capacity as an ice dancer with Natalie. Aurora is entered for the ladies, but like Stephen she's slated for Slovakia, so she may WD. Alison, scheduled for Linz, may also WD if she feels time is too tight.

am i wrong to think they all have to do two entries for the series??? so in that case, they would indeed have to skate a second event...

 

[TGee]

am i wrong to think they all have to do two entries for the series??? so in that case, they would indeed have to skate a second event...

Yes, but they may have entered a third...to give the flex to skip one event.

Also, the Ontario NextGen skaters may have a bye to sectionals on the basis of their international assignments...

 

[pearly]

Here's Stephen Gogolev's SP and LP:

Short: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsN4FpKs-VQ
Long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXNZMALzTy0

 

[nadster]

Yes, but they may have entered a third...to give the flex to skip one event.

Also, the Ontario NextGen skaters may have a bye to sectionals on the basis of their international assignments...

International assignments give you a bye to the challenge automatically. So those skaters with JGP assignments aren't goiing to care about the summer series as they already have the bye to challenge.

The top 10 finishers in pre-novice/novice , top 5 in junior and top 3 in the summer series also get a bye to challenge.


Those who have a Senior GP assignment, medalled at the last senior Canadians and those who made the JGPF have byes to nationals.

 

[Osmond4gold]

Posted on KO's twitter. So Eric, never fall asleep at a party again, ...but what a bunch to wake up to.

https://twitter.com/kaetlyn_23?ref_s...Ctwgr^author

 

[chuckm]

GLACIER FALLS SUMMER CLASSIC SENIOR LADIES FREE SKATE

1 - 129.57 Alysa LIU
2 - 120.02 Ting CUI
3 - 109.43 Ashley LIN
4 - 105.61 Megan WESSENBERG
5 - 96.24 Akari NAKAHARA
6 - 95.28 Angela WANG
7 - 90.92 Elizaveta KULIK
8 - 90.33 Emily CHAN
9 - 90.14 Emily BAUSBACK (CAN)
10 - 87.92 Heidi MUNGER
11 - 80.39 Marietta ATKINS
12 - 79.78 Alexis GAGNON
13 - 79.43 Megan YIM (CAN)
14 - 75.12 Emmy MA
15 - 73.59 Kelsey WONG (CAN)
16 - 73.17 Chelsea MISCHUK
17 - 69.16 Sonja HILMER
18 - 63.42 Erica MACHIDA
19 - 53.24 Julia Meltzer FENNELL

FINAL STANDINGS SENIOR LADIES

1 - 193.17 3 1 Alysa LIU
2 - 186.80 1 2 Ting CUI
3 - 171.41 2 4 Megan WESSENBERG
4 - 167.06 4 3 Ashley LIN
5 - 153.65 5 5 Akari NAKAHARA
6 - 148.83 7 6 Angela WANG
7 - 141.14 8 10 Heidi MUNGER
8 - 140.81 9 8 Emily CHAN
9 - 140.14 13 7 Elizaveta KULIK
10 - 139.56 12 9 Emily BAUSBACK (CAN)
11 - 131.57 6 14 Emmy MA
12 - 129.81 11 12 Alexis GAGNON
13 - 123.68 10 15 Kelsey WONG (CAN)
14 - 121.86 15 13 Megan YIM (CAN)
15 - 119.70 16 11 Marietta ATKINS
16 - 117.97 14 16 Chelsea MISCHUK
17 - 108.35 17 17 Sonja HILMER
18 - 96.87 19 18 Erica MACHIDA
19 - 88.19 18 19 Julia Meltzer FENNELL

 

[mrrice]

Here's Stephen Gogolev's SP and LP:

Short: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsN4FpKs-VQ
Long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXNZMALzTy0

How old is Stephen? He looks to have a ton of promise. It was great after he set up in the wrong place and didn't let it effect his program.

 

[TGee]

How old is Stephen? He looks to have a ton of promise. It was great after he set up in the wrong place and didn't let it effect his program.

He turned 13 in late December... and now is finally eligible for ISU Juniors...

We've been waiting a long time for this.

 

[Osmond4gold]

Saw this video on YouTube. The ''Ten Most Successful Skaters Under IJS'' in singles. As a World Champion and a Silver medalist, and an Olympic Bronze medalist in singles, guess who is listed at no. 6 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzXXFzNXzs

So in order of achievements based on IJS scores at the BIG senior events, we have...
3 Japanese women
2 Canadians, tied with...
2 Russians, then...
1 American
1 Korean
1 Italian

A reality check for a few on GS, or their nightmare, esp. when some had limited expectation for Canadian ladies over the last 10 years. In life, I think it is always a good thing to keep it real, dontchathink.

PS Nice to see Joannie at #9

 

[4everchan]

Saw this video on YouTube. The ''Ten Most Successful Skaters Under IJS'' in singles. As a World Champion and a Silver medalist, and an Olympic Bronze medalist in singles, guess who is listed at no. 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzXXFzNXzs

PS Nice to see Joannie in there also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AieNS2bdwfk

the male version with chiddy boy in 2nd and jeffrey in 9th

 

[BillNeal]

^ YT poster to make ice dance version with V/M in 1st and include W/P also.