2018-19 Japanese Ladies' figure skating
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Clean Rika should be on top of them all.
Maybe. Because her two BVs are too big anyway.
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She definitely hit them in Bratislava at practices, speaking from live experience
oh i remember during the practice, she was throwing 3A after 3A like it was no big deal, i was definitely impressed. she can nail them as long as she stays focused an confident.
Part of what makes a top skater is the ability to more or less dance on the ice. Just like in real dancing to be a top dancer you either have it or you don't and no amount of training will make you a great dancer. Just look at the way Satoko or Wakaba move on the ice then look at Sakamoto. No comparison. She has many great qualities including consistancy so she will always have a chance if the others falter. Nothing wrong with that.
In her new programs Kaori is gentle and has grace. In her last season SP too. She's maybe not thin and have very muscled legs, but that doesn't mean that she can't "dance".
Her last season FS was not made to show that. Richaud bet on his extraverted and fun personality that seduced everyone. The program itself was not that great but she sold it.
Even if i don't agree with it scoring more in PCS than Mai's program.
Her last season FS was not made to show that. Richaud bet on his extraverted and fun personality that seduced everyone. The program itself was not that great but she sold it.
Even if i don't agree with it scoring more in PCS than Mai's program.
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Yagudin, Plushenko, Browning, Yuna Kim, Michelle Kwan, Midori Ito, and several others certainly didn't always present dance on ice.
This is your opinion, of course, and I just don't agree with it at all. There are several examples of skating where I don't think the skater is "dancing" and the performance is still amazing. It's equally a performance art, and there's a HUGE variety to that. This is certainly an interpretation of skating, and your interpretation, but it's never solely been where it's at. It's especially weird since you mention Wakaba, a skater I don't think presents a dance on ice, but rather performs her heart out on it. You may choose favourites based off this, and think it's fact, but it will not make it so. Comfort on the ice may be essential, but that's skating skill, and Kaori has that. The judges might prefer a style of skating over the other to promote the ever-falling image of this garbage they're masquerading as sport, but there are several other things they do that make their opinions utterly invalid anyway, and they're driving people away with their nonsense anyway. No more valid than when they felt the "need" to mark down Asian skaters.
And i don't know why "grace" should be the standard. Every girl don't have to be a Marin Honda or a Satoko Miyahara.
Last chance for junior girls to win a medal in JGP this season. I hope that someone will medal, only two medals (two bronzes) in a JGP season is sad.
Last chance for junior girls to win a medal in JGP this season. I hope that someone will medal, only two medals (two bronzes) in a JGP season is sad.
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It's the same stupid standard across FS, whatever box the judges think a field should be holed into, that. "Graceful Dancer" for women, "Masculine/Strong" for men with an added bonus for "Dancer".
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I think Kaori is way underscored in PCS. She has a lovely, sweeping quality to her movement that is captivating to watch. Hopefully it's more a reflection of the skate order than how the judges actually view her skating.
I totally agree. I can't believe that her pcs was lower than BT. And her flip jumps were marked
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A moment to discuss Yuna Shiraiwa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NgTuP-Kx5Q&t=1s A beautiful FS from Kinki regionals. She has 2 3Lz+3T and a (slightly non-optimal) 3S+1Lo+2S. Despite only having 1 GP she is certainly in a great position right now with a good 7 triples program. She was very successful as a junior but I think that this season she can really break through.
Her PCS is low because she gives off a junior feel to her skating because she isnt graceful and doesn't have a feel for the music. How anyone can say you don't need to be graceful to be a great skater is beyond me. Lol She is a great jumper and Satoko's jumps suck. But Satoko is a much better skater other than that. Everyone knows both of those things. Jeez. People have a fit if you don't say their favorite skater is perfect. Lol
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Sure. Japanese Slutskaya can be just as big as Russian Slutskaya, then. No one can improve either, I forgot.
Ironic.
Beautiful FS indeed. I'm glad to see that the work on her jumps starts to pay. She can score well if she doesn't get URs calls. She's not the one with the worst jumps but she's surely the most dinged most of the time.
I don't understand that 3 jumps combo. Why not simply a 3-2-2?
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Oh luv..you are the one who chasing the perfection. We just oppose to the idea, specifically your definition of the perfection.
Corolina Kostner at 18 was not pretty to watch. Wagner at 17 was far behind the like of Nagasu or even Caroline Zhang. Look what happened in their 20s. Skaters develop at the different ages and circumstances. No perfect answer for all regarding sport and art. It's BS to claim the difference.
One of the perks of being the FS fans is to watch your favourites growing into the their best version of themselves. Sometimes seeing them healthy and happy enough to skate is already a plus.
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She already had fantastic SS and jumps back then, even medaled at the Worlds. Inconsistent, yes, but she has never improved on that without lowering her tech contents.
No she certainly wasn't. At that age Wagner pretty much tied with Zhang, was doing better than Nagasu, and was slightly behind Czisny and Flatt.
But I agree with the rest of your points.
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She was too fast, and her qualities weren't there yet. I mean, it's all eh here in the Japanese Ladies' thread, but I got the gist. Kostner became much better than she was at 18. True enough, and fair enough.
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