2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[TruMan]

Trusova is going to show frontloaded FS - 4Lz, 4S, StSq4, 4T+3T, 3S, FCSp4 // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F, 3Lz, SSoSp4, FCCoSp4 = 11.50+9.70+13.70+4.30 (39.20) // 11.08+5.83+6.49 (23.40) =BV TE62.60(R30)

JWC 2018 BV TE65.02 4S, 4T // 3Lz, 3F+1Lo+3S, 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+3T, 2A (R32)
Will Trusova be able to jump 2 revolutions less FS 2018/19 season?

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Seems that Anfisa Ryabova is also with Plushenko — per the Angels of Plushenko instagram

 

[Shayuki]

I feel like the worst skating fan right now, but will someone explain the Shcherbakova hype to me? It's not lost on me that she's obviously a very talented skater, but I feel a little out of the loop when it comes to the fanaticism that she inspires.

Well, I don't know what it's for you or what it's for anyone else that makes them like a skater.

To me, this at the age of 12 was simply incredible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1J1XL9uHI

And for me, it has to do with things very different from the quads. :think: Actually, it has nothing to do with quads and they're more of an afterthought. She has perfect posture, amazing lines, good head movements - the minor details. And the musical gifts.

Like I've said before, someone might need to work on a single movement for hours with a choreographer to get it perfect while the perfect delivery of said movement will just come naturally to her.

 

[Elana]

Trusova is going to show frontloaded FS - 4Lz, 4S, StSq4, 4T+3T, 3S, FCSp4 // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F, 3Lz, SSoSp4, FCCoSp4 = 11.50+9.70+13.70+4.30 (39.20) // 11.08+5.83+6.49 (23.40) =BV TE62.60(R30)

JWC 2018 BV TE65.02 4S, 4T // 3Lz, 3F+1Lo+3S, 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+3T, 2A (R32)
Will Trusova be able to jump 2 revolutions less FS 2018/19 season?

But you don't have her doing a three jump combo for this season? If she does atleast one more triple for that combo it will put her BV and rotations higher than last season. I would expect 3F+1Lo+3S again, or maybe a 3F+3t+2t, in the second half.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

If she shows 4Lz, then maybe...
4Lz
4T
4S
3Lz-3Lo (can be turned into 4Lz if needed and then move combo down)
---
3Lz-3T
2A-1Lo-3F (must have axel type jump)
3F

if she doesn't have 4Lz ready to compete...
4T
4S
2A
3Lz-3Lo
---
3F-3T
3Lz-1Lo-3S
3F

 

[Elana]

If she shows 4Lz, then maybe...
4Lz
4T
4S
3Lz-3Lo (can be turned into 4Lz if needed and then move combo down)
---
3Lz-3T
2A-1Lo-3F (must have axel type jump)
3F

if she doesn't have 4Lz ready to compete...
4T
4S
2A
3Lz-3Lo
---
3F-3T
3Lz-1Lo-3S
3F

I really hope she does the 4Lz
But do you think she would do a 1Lo-3F combo? I would think she would do the axel as a solo jump and keep the 3F-1Lo-3S?

 

[Shayuki]

Think Trusova will do 3 quads? The 4Lutz that was posted didn't really make me that confident in it. Then again, it's better rotated than the 4S she had a year ago... Hmm, it'll be interesting to see.

 

[leoleo]

3 quads seems very ambitious (maybe even dangerous?). I expect them to have her perform the 2 quads she's the most confident in. If her 4lutz is ready and consistent she'll definitely try it along with the other quad they think she's more capable of landing consistently. I cannot believe we're most likely gonna witness one of those 14yrs old become the first "woman" (lol) to jump a 4ltz in competition! 14 :eeking:

 

[alvina9894]

Of course, it all started with quads - her and Sasha's quads were first posted on youtube almost simultaneously last spring. You may be a genius of musicality and skating skills, but in sports people won't notice you until you start winning competitions or doing something extraordinary.

At some point she broke her leg and got to the hospital, while Sasha got 4 international competitions and eventually won the juniors' grand slam. But by that time people had already noticed Anya and remembered her as an artistically superior version of Sasha (some people argue that her artistry is matched only by of Zheleznyakov himself, which is quite plausible, except that Anya hasn't tried to be a brutal mercenary yet). You get attention by quads, but you gain true fans by your programs and your ability to express them on the ice. Now that she has it all, I hope she will be the second skater after Hanyu whose fan fest thread will be divided in order to avoid an integer overflow in the forum engine.

And if all this wasn't enough, she's the cutest creature in the roster, rivaled only by Masaru herself.

Sorry, but no. Just no.
And Sasha has a correct edge for her lutz.

 

[Elana]

I don't think Sasha will do 3 quads, she doesn't need to at all, she doesn't even need to do 2... but she does. From that video, the 4Lz didn't look all that great to me either, but if it has improved over the past and next months, I wouldn't put it past her to do it in the program. She's so gutsy, if she is even somewhat consistent I think she would want to do it, not sure about her coaches. But if it is in Anna's program as it seems, my guess would be that it is in Sasha's too, little quad queen doesn't want someone else showing her up! I mean if you can land 3 quads, then why not show them off and break some more records? Unless she does a lutz in place of one of the other two?

 

[karina17]

I think Sasha might do what she did last season: Perform with what she’s more secure of (4S), then work her way up as the season progresses (4S, 4T).

So she might start off the season with 4S and 4T since she’s performed that layout successfully at JWC 2018, indicating that she’s at least reasonably secure in it, but that’s not to say that she won’t bring out the 4Lz later, at JGPF 2018 or JWC 2019.

Anna and Alena could do the same thing too, maybe. We haven’t seen Alena’s 3A since April, I think, so there’s a possibility of her doing it in combination now. Also, we know Anna can do 4Lz-3T-3Lo in practice, and there’s also the question of whether her 4T has come back/will come back. They might all start with what they’re more secure with, and work their way up as the season continues. I’m not saying this is how it will be, but it’s possible.

 

[Shayuki]

Sorry, but no. Just no.
And Sasha has a correct edge for her lutz.

Anna does also, though. :think: All of them in the ex. Well, I guess the last one is flat. She did struggle with landing it. I'm pretty sure these are safe from calls, though.

I don't think Sasha will do 3 quads, she doesn't need to at all, she doesn't even need to do 2... but she does. From that video, the 4Lz didn't look all that great to me either, but if it has improved over the past and next months, I wouldn't put it past her to do it in the program. She's so gutsy, if she is even somewhat consistent I think she would want to do it, not sure about her coaches. But if it is in Anna's program as it seems, my guess would be that it is in Sasha's too, little quad queen doesn't want someone else showing her up! I mean if you can land 3 quads, then why not show them off and break some more records? Unless she does a lutz in place of one of the other two?

That's what I was thinking at first - That she might replace the 4S with the 4Lz, for instance. But honestly, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The 4Lutz is a worse jump for her and isn't worth that many more points. It seems like it'd not be a very good idea unless she does the other quads as well.

 

[moriel]

I am pretty sure that it will depend on her stamina and consistency.
For instance, her 4S was messed up most of the times last season, tbh - not sure if they would let her do 3 quads if she Urs/falls them all, that would actually bring her score down way too much.

 

[karina17]

That's what I was thinking at first - That she might replace the 4S with the 4Lz, for instance. But honestly, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The 4Lutz is a worse jump for her and isn't worth that many more points. It seems like it'd not be a very good idea unless she does the other quads as well.

Maybe she’ll replace the 4T with 4Lz? She only attempted her 4T twice in competition, so it’s hard to tell how consistent she is with it, but overall, she seems more secure in her 4S as compared to 4T. And her forwards 4T fall at Cup of Russia gave me a heart attack (not to mention that along with her other stumbles and 3F-3Lo fall in the SP, it lost her the gold medal to Anna).

 

[leoleo]

I am pretty sure that it will depend on her stamina and consistency.
For instance, her 4S was messed up most of the times last season, tbh - not sure if they would let her do 3 quads if she Urs/falls them all, that would actually bring her score down way too much.

this and also, unlike what people like to think, Eteri isn't one to force a skater to do a layout they cannot handle at least semi-consistently. She seems to hate seeing her skaters fall more than anybody else lmao. She's not gonna send her in competition with quads she cannot land. As someone said earlier she could upgrade her layout throughout the whole season as she gets more confident and comfortable.

Didn't the argument about Anna's lutz edge already happen like 30pages ago? and from what i remember it was pretty heated!

 

[atsumiri]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sasha want to be the first who performed 4Lz at competition. IMO it will depend on her stamina and consistency.

Anna's layout from DOI were: 3Lz 3F-3T 2A 3S // 3Lz 3F-2T-2Lo 3Lz-3Lo
her jump layout for competitions could be: 4Lz 3F-3T 2A 3S // 3Lz-3Lo 3F-2T-2Lo 3Lz
I think Anna is going for 4Lz. Could be the First Lady who lend it.

 

[colormyworld240]

Apart from the quads she doesn't impress me either. I don't feel anything watching her (but then, I still feel the same about Kostornaya...). Actually, that's not entirely true - I feel a little uncomfortable because she is so thin and fragile looking. Nothing wrong with being naturally thin, but there is a point where it becomes distracting and you wonder if she will be healthy by the time she makes it to seniors, especially knowing Eteri's training style. Other than that, I simply enjoy more extroverted skaters who put all their emotions on the ice, so they'll probably never be my cup of tea.

I think she's just naturally skinny, she doesn't look unhealthy to me. And her parents seem to share her body type. She does look frail, but I think that's just because we see her jumping these crazy jumps on ice. If she were any girl on the street just living life and not in a demanding sport, she wouldn't look frail. Her body type is difficult for her skating though, maybe that's why her jumps are small; she doesn't have the muscle for them. I think the ideal figure skating body type (for jumping) is on the shorter side, compact with strong but not bulky muscles

 

[dante]

I think both Anna and Sasha will go for the first 4Lz in history, but after either of them does it, they both will back down to 4S and 4T for as long as there are no rivals outside the team on the horizon. Or maybe then focus on 4Lo and 4F.

 

[atsumiri]

I think both Anna and Sasha will go for the first 4Lz in history, but after either of them does it, they both will back down to 4S and 4T for as long as there are no rivals outside the team on the horizon. Or maybe then focus on 4Lo and 4F.

I don't think so.
4S and 4T work for Sasha. but not Anna.
4Lz should work for Anna. We don't know if she get her 4T back yet. Personally I feel like Anna is more comfortable with lz jump now.
4lz for Sasha... I don't know... I didn't expect her to perform 4T after her first try at December. but 3 months later she did it. so everything is possible.

still I wouldn't be surprised if they will start with more secure and stable layout for Sasha and then will try to increase difficulty.

 

[Shayuki]

Anna's potential array of quads is far more limited than Sasha's. Sasha's 4T, 4S and 4Lz are all possible, and her Flip and Loop should also be good enough in theory. She also has a huge 2A and might have 3A potential.

On the other hand, Anna's Salchow and Loop are both weak and the Flip doesn't make me very comfortable, either. If she learns something apart from Toe or Lutz, I imagine it would have to be the Flip. I just see no hope for any other jump. Then again, she just might whip out a 4S out of nowhere. Not like her having a 4T makes any sense either.