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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

What if Valieva-Kanysheva-Usacheva will get quads or 3 Axel or 3Lz+3Lo next season, what's then? Wait for two more years?
 
Also, think about it this way...

Tarakanova can probably beat Kanysheva, Sinitsyna, Valieva, Usacheva etc, and magbe even Liu if she can get a consistent quad. So a world Jr medal and JGPF medal is definitely possible. Even a silver at both those events can basically guarantee two assignments for her debut senior season. Besides, it’ll be 20-21 that she goes to senior in that case, and she still has a season to build up PCS for the Olympics.

I want Nastya to be getting the PCS she deserves too, but let’s face it, that’s got going to happen this season for sure. I think RusFed has some kind of agenda against her or something. This year they’ve got the 3A to take to Jr. Worlds, but next year... Kanysheva, Valieva and Usacheva? That seems like a relatively weak field in comparison to the competition that they’ll get from Liu. So they basically HAVE to send Nastya unless she’s injured or something. And Nastya is consistent enough to get on that podium.

"maybe even Liu"
To start with, it is very debatable if Liu is a threat, as it is debatable how judges will score her elements on major isu championships. Very debatable.
 
If the current trend will be confirmed at Junior Nationals, maybe the best option for Nastya T. at this point could be to follow Kurakova's path to chase her olympic dream or retire and get on with her life. What a waste.
 
I hope Nastya T. doesn't retire. Some of Plushenko's Angels skate for other countries, right? So it wouldn't be unprecedented. It's up to her, though.

I feel like she could have a successful season in juniors next year (JGF podium? JWC team?) and who knows what will happen in seniors in two years' time. We can't predict anything with certainty.
 
I don‘t want to make any assumptions because things can change easily in a year in figure skating but if we compare what will likely be the field in juniors next year...

Moving up we have: Alena Kostornaya, Anna Shcherbakova and Sasha Trusova

Still in JGP circuit
Alena Kanysheva: She‘s JGPF bronze medalist. Pretty consistent so far, let‘s see whether that will change when she‘s considered a top lady and has more pressure on her

Ksenia Sinitsyna: Don‘t know much about her only that I originally preferred her to Alena K. before they went juniors. Has a higher technical content 3Lz-3Lo, I think?) but isn‘t as consistent

The new youngster trio: Kamila Valieva, Daria Usacheva and Maria Khromykh. Right now they are good. I only know the first two but from what I‘ve seen from them it‘s their flexibility (especially Kamila‘s) that‘s outstanding. Other than that they don‘t seem to have any ultra-c elements, just the “standard“ stuff. Might change in a year, though.

Outside of Russia we‘d have Liu who seems like a threat. Let‘s see whether she can keep that up or loses her jumps. For me, they look less stable than Trusova‘s and Shcherbakova‘s quads but we‘ll find out.

If we look at that.. it looks easier for Nastya to compete with them than in seniors with the 3A, Zagitova, Medvedeva, Tukamysheva and co. I don‘t know why she shouldn‘t be able to beat the new trio, unless they pull of a quad themselves. They will be the newcomers while Nastya is already known in the junior circuit. I think staying in juniors one more year could really benefit her to maybe finally get that JWC spot and possibly a medal. Things might change in a year but from those mentioned above... Liu can be a threat because she has the difficult elements but the others? Yeah, they‘re obviously very good and it‘s not going to be easy of course. But to me it looks less difficult than in seniors. I hope, for her sake, that Nastya‘ll stay in juniors and finally get the recognition she deserves.
 
The new youngster trio: Kamila Valieva, Daria Usacheva and Maria Khromykh. Right now they are good. I only know the first two but from what I‘ve seen from them it‘s their flexibility (especially Kamila‘s) that‘s outstanding. Other than that they don‘t seem to have any ultra-c elements, just the “standard“ stuff. Might change in a year, though.

Kamila already skates with more grace and feeling than all but a few senior skaters. And she's, what, all of 12 years old? I have no idea what ultra-c elements they're training with her. But I can see her quickly dominating other junior skaters in PCS, as her performances are already winning over audiences...https://youtu.be/g3-pCoxaDAw. (This might be my favorite program of this season, with the exception of maybe Alena's programs. And she's not even a junior yet.)
 
Kamila already skates with more grace and feeling than all but a few senior skaters. And she's, what, all of 12 years old? I have no idea what ultra-c elements they're training with her. But I can see her quickly dominating other junior skaters in PCS, as her performances are already winning over audiences...https://youtu.be/g3-pCoxaDAw. (This might be my favorite program of this season, with the exception of maybe Alena's programs. And she's not even a junior yet.)

:clap: :clap: :clap: Forget the juniors, those over-the-hill matrons. Here come the novices!

Astonishing to see a 12-year-old take on Arvo Pärt.
 
Kamila already skates with more grace and feeling than all but a few senior skaters. And she's, what, all of 12 years old? I have no idea what ultra-c elements they're training with her. But I can see her quickly dominating other junior skaters in PCS, as her performances are already winning over audiences...https://youtu.be/g3-pCoxaDAw. (This might be my favorite program of this season, with the exception of maybe Alena's programs. And she's not even a junior yet.)
She's very lovely to watch, and she has great flexibility. I do, however think that there is no connection to the music as of now, it almost seems like someone put that track over her very beautiful performance. This is in no way an attack btw, she's very lovely to watch and I can imagine her being a great artist kn the future
 
Whoa :eeking:

I wonder what the current list is now...

4Lz-3Lo:
Alexandra Trusova* (this girl has insane abilities :shocked:)

3Lz-3Lo:
Alina Zagitova
Sofia Samodelkina
Sofia Akatieva
Alexandra Trusova
Alena Kostornaya
Anna Shcherbakova
Alena Kanysheva
Ksenia Sinitsyna
Viktoria Vasilieva
Elizaveta Nugumanova
Natalia Ogoreltseva
Valeria Emelyanova*
Viktoria Safonova
Anastasia Gubanova
Angelina Chaplygina
Anastasia Tarakanova*

3F-3Lo:
Alina Zagitova
Alexandra Trusova
Anna Shcherbakova
Viktoria Vasilieva
Elizaveta Nugumanova

3Lo-3Lo:
Elizaveta Nugumanova
Natalia Ogoreltseva
Evgenia Medvedeva*

3S-3Lo:
Evgenia Medvedeva
Valeria Mikhailova*
Elizaveta Nugumanova*

2A-3Lo:
Evgenia Medvedeva*
Elizaveta Nugumanova*

* = only in practice so far

and I probably missed some :eeking:

I think Valeria has another entry for your list :bow:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Br4U5oUBuvA/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=nm9w2c7k0asd

3z-1eu-3f*
 
She's very lovely to watch, and she has great flexibility. I do, however think that there is no connection to the music as of now, it almost seems like someone put that track over her very beautiful performance. This is in no way an attack btw, she's very lovely to watch and I can imagine her being a great artist kn the future

Great flexibility *and* balance/strength. Compare her to Maya in this video, and note how effortlessly stable she is when holding poses...https://youtu.be/ysGFTNU1pwU. (Not meant as a knock on Maya; I don't know anyone in Eteri's group who would look good in comparison.)
 
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