But yep, Russia is different.
When Canada overscores their own skaters like there is no tomorrow, that is home advantage.
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But yep, Russia is different.
When Canada overscores their own skaters like there is no tomorrow, that is home advantage.
Let’s be real. Russia, Canada, and USA are the worst offenders. But EVERY country has homeflation.
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Every country is an exaggeration. China and Japan aren't really known for home inflation....
And Boyang!! Here are the pics from Boyang's Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSh9dJZDPau/?hl=en
Two Chinese judges were just suspended for giving inflated marks to their skaters.
Sure it wasn’t on home soil, but the principle is the same.
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For domestic event may be, but how homeflation can be in the case of an international event?
Except japan maybe.
Yep, but overall, whenever home inflation is discussed, Russia is always mentioned as the top and trademark offender, while this is not true. USA and specially Canada are at least on the same level.
Maybe, but there was that time with Mao and Yulia...
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Agree, generally, and let's also be clear that at-home inflation comes not just from one judge from that home country, but several judges on the panel that are NOT from that country as well.
When it comes to the big markets like Russia/US/Canada, I would bet that the ISU considers it in their best interest to encourage the wins of skaters on home ice. The ISU needs to sell tickets, and it helps to sell tickets to future events if the home favorites seem likely to win. If you're a casual and you decide to pay money to go see skating, you're just going to root for whoever is from your country. If you see them win and get excited, you're more likely to be more invested in the sport and more likely to spend money on a future skating event.
The success of home skaters on home ice is a BIG DEAL with financial perks.
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The principle isn't the same though, because as Orlov said, home inflation pertains to home soil and the Olympics was an international event.
If China had home inflation, Boyang would have won the past two CoCs , Yan Han would be on the podium and the pairs podium would be dominated by mainly Chinese pairs....
If China had home inflation, Boyang would have won the past two CoCs , Yan Han would be on the podium and the pairs podium would be dominated by mainly Chinese pairs....
this makes sense.
And japanese dont overscore because japanese crowd loves all skaters
And it's great to see that you hang in with us samkrut in spite of it...
I know that there have been Canadian skaters who have done better at Rostelecom than elsewhere, including at home. I'm looking forward to see how the Russian audience views Keegan Messing.
And there is also a group on GS that talks about "home cooking" at Skate Canada International (SCI) but seems to forget that other countries skaters are well represented on the SCI podium.
All the apparent angst about Russian women at SCI on this thread has my head shaking. Evgenia and Anna Pogorilyia each took gold in the last quadrennial at SCI. Coaching teams know that they need to be professionals and support their skaters whichever country they skate for, they aren't going to create personal dramas that could distract their skaters.
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It's pretty surprising though that the ISU doesn't try to home-inflate Chinese skaters more. The potential market and $$$$ opportunities would be HUGE.
(I wonder if we will see more Japanese inflation start to happen once Hanyu retires. The Hanyu $$$$ is real. Granted, Japanese fans travel even for non-Hanyu skaters, but the Hanyu fandom is on another level.)
Chinese don't seem to travel as much as the japanese. While japanese fans attend most FS events in large numbers, go to shows and so on, chinese only attend the home events really.
Not sure if it has to do with china politics, of the income of chinese people, or just lower interest in FS in general.
But i dunno, after watching isu congress, I am not surprised with anything ISU does.
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just a small comment - when I was in CoR last season, there were pleeeeenty of Chinese fans. They do travel a bit more then to home events, but of course not as far as Japanese fans. Few do =D
Lower interest in FS in general. But there seems to be some slow improvement. Hanyu is very/super popular in China though and actually a lot of Chinese fans travel for Hanyu's events. Most Hanyu fans in China are young people and some can't afford (or too young) to travel abroad. But they showed their appreciation by giving the most impressive pooh rains in 2014 and 2015 when Hanyu competed there.
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how to tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese？China has a lot of Yuzu fans and they went to Olympics, Russia GP, NHK and so on. I think the biggest reason is that Chinese do not has many holidays or annual leaves as housewives in Japan. And traveling to EU or US is toooo far...
Political reason is not existed.
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Keegan certainly has a solid shot at medalng, but FYI, Jason’s SB last season - a terrible season for him - was 269+. Keegan and Kazuki both had SBs of 255+ and 256+, respectively. It’s hard to say how Jason will do this season given his new coaching situation, but I wouldn’t be so quick to write him off just because he lacks a quad.
Last year, Shoma Uno won Skate Canada gold, with Jason Brown winning silver, and Alexander Samarin bronze. Keegan was eighth.
At NHK, Keegan (replacing Patrick Chan) faced both Jason Brown and Kazuki Tomono (making his senior debut). Keegan placed 5th, right behind Jason, and two places ahead of Kazuki.
With his 5th place at Worlds, Kazuki Tomono is now a seeded skater in the GP.
So now in 2018 there is a familiar cast of characters at SCI, and none of Shoma, Keegan, Jason, Kazuki or even Alexander S. can be discounted.
In Russia, there's not only Kolyada, but also Hanyu and Tomono again.
At NHK, Keegan (replacing Patrick Chan) faced both Jason Brown and Kazuki Tomono (making his senior debut). Keegan placed 5th, right behind Jason, and two places ahead of Kazuki.
With his 5th place at Worlds, Kazuki Tomono is now a seeded skater in the GP.
So now in 2018 there is a familiar cast of characters at SCI, and none of Shoma, Keegan, Jason, Kazuki or even Alexander S. can be discounted.
In Russia, there's not only Kolyada, but also Hanyu and Tomono again.
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