2018-2019 GP Assignments

[narcissa]

Chinese don't seem to travel as much as the japanese. While japanese fans attend most FS events in large numbers, go to shows and so on, chinese only attend the home events really.
Not sure if it has to do with china politics, of the income of chinese people, or just lower interest in FS in general.

But i dunno, after watching isu congress, I am not surprised with anything ISU does.

I don't know about in the past, but there were a LOT of Chinese fans in Pyeongchang and Helsinki. And ACI last year too. Definitely rivaled the Japanese fans, especially in the dedication.

 

[4everchan]

I don't know about in the past, but there were a LOT of Chinese fans in Pyeongchang and Helsinki. And ACI last year too. Definitely rivaled the Japanese fans, especially in the dedication.

not sure where you Chinese fans in ACI. I was there and surrounded with Japanese fans. Yes, there were other Asian fans there, but to me a Chinese person who speaks French with a Montreal accent is just a Canadian fan ... there are a lot of Vietnamese, Koreans and Chinese people in Montreal. One Chinese boy in 2016 kept on getting calls from his mom ...ACI finished at around 1030pm and yuzu was last to skate or very close to last... and he was like MOM he hasn't skated yet ... and he turned around and told me... in French "my mom is so annoying... i want to see Yuzu.

 

[Yoa]

Well... some people assumed that Russians holding those signs were Japanese because hey! 1) we can't see their faces on TV 2) there's kanji on their sign so of course they're Japanese. The same rules apply when any Asian person holds a Japanese flag to support Yuzuru. It's so annoying when commentators and journalists do that.

 

[SnowWhite]

Skate America handicapping:

Men: Nathan already was a pretty heavy favourite to win here, but looking at this roster, only Vincent would come anywhere close to Nathan provided they skate decently.
Ladies: Satoko vs. would-be up-and-comers (mainly from Russia, but also including Kaori)
Pairs: Tarasova and Morozov will stomp everybody.
Dance: Hubbell and Donohue could probably win this even if they make one of their signature costly errors.

Also, Hubbell and Donohue are doing back-to-back events, interestingly.

They seemed pretty happy about it. I guess it makes sense. Same continent, so the travel won't be too bad. As National champs, they'd want SA of course, and SC is in Montreal where they train.

Polina used it last year only got one invite.

If Gracie shows well in early season I’m sure she’ll get SA TBD

Wasn't Polina a 'return' skater, not a comeback skater? I think the rules are a bit different. Polina was never top 6 at worlds.

Some thoughts:

Super annoyed that Kailani didn't get one. Algotsson, Austman, and Paganini all are lower on the SB list than Kailani (in Austman's case, she's SB 125 vs Kailani's 59, but oh wait, big country, righto...).

Am somewhat disappointed for Brendan, as I was hoping he could pick up two this time around. Especially since Rizzo (SB36) and Erokhov (SB37) both got two and are below him on the SB list (SB33 for Brendan). Though at least Erokhov is JWC.

Rizzo had an advantage because he was guaranteed 1 with his WS. It's easier to get 2 when you already have 1 guaranteed. Kerry and Erokhov weren't guaranteed any, but Erokhov got one as a host pick, and as you said, is the JW champ.

As for Austman, she's a host pick. I know you don't love that system, but her SB is irrelevant. As for Algotsson and Paganini, yes it seems they skipped over Kailani to give them each a spot. Though there were others higher than Craine who didn't get an event either, like Hanul Kim.

All right.

So you are saying that anyone who has ever been seeded in the past 10 years can qualify as a comeback skater. No matter how far their placements have dropped in the following years. As long as they take a season off first.

That is never how I have read that rule, and it's not a matter of making up the criteria but of interpreting the sentence about "not having subsequently competed" differently. But I guess I can see that the sentence can be interpreted in more than one way.

Tessa and Scott used the comeback rule in 2016, didn't they? The last Worlds they had competed in was 2013. After that they competing in several events, including the Olympics, but not Worlds, then took two seasons off. That didn't prevent them from using it. Now obviously they're different than Gracie in that their results didn't drop off, but since I don't see any mention of the Olympics in that paragraph quoted, wouldn't your interpretation of the rule mean they wouldn't have been eligible, technically? I wasn't aware of the rule very much until they came back, so I've always interpreted it as not requiring you to have not competed at all since your last Worlds. But I see why you would read it that way.

 

[narcissa]

not sure where you Chinese fans in ACI. I was there and surrounded with Japanese fans. Yes, there were other Asian fans there, but to me a Chinese person who speaks French with a Montreal accent is just a Canadian fan ...

I talked to many of them when we went around exchanging small trinkets/souvenirs. (I am Chinese and speak Mandarin.)
And when we were lining up outside to get in, surprisingly at least 1/3 of the people in front of the line were Chinese and not Japanese. Some fellow GS members from China were also there. Generally (obviously not a hard rule), younger fans tend to be from China and the older ones are Japanese.

 

[4everchan]

I talked to many of them (I am Chinese and speak Mandarin.)
And when we were lining up outside to get in, surprisingly at least 1/3 of the people in front of the line were Chinese and not Japanese. Some fellow GS members from China were also there. Generally (obviously not a hard rule), younger fans tend to be from China and the older ones are Japanese.

where I was sitting : japanese fans... for sure. and don't forget that yes, Chinese fans may speak to you in Mandarin but it doesn't mean they came from China. maybe they did... but there are a lot Chinese Canadians who speak 2 -3 languages... like Chiddy

 

[narcissa]

where I was sitting : japanese fans... for sure. and don't forget that yes, Chinese fans may speak to you in Mandarin but it doesn't mean they came from China. maybe they did... but there are a lot Chinese Canadians who speak 2 -3 languages... like Chiddy

I can usually tell the difference, thanks, but yes, some Chinese Canadians/Americans were there too

 

[SamuraiKike]

Yep, but overall, whenever home inflation is discussed, Russia is always mentioned as the top and trademark offender, while this is not true. USA and specially Canada are at least on the same level.

Maybe here because this is an english language forum with most members from North America so we get to read more "evil Russia inflation" comments and get influenced by complains from the NA broadcasts but russian commentators are just the same. "Its Canada" is not uncommon from them.

Im not saying any side is right or wrong just that each like to see what they want to see.

 

[SamuraiKike]

Regarding the ISU's Grand Prix Entries PDFs-- Am I the only one who finds the graphics on these pages incredibly annoying? They're pretty, but the two-tone blue swishes are distracting and I find the white print a bit hard on the eyes. I'm longing for the plainer, but more legible, black and white grids of past seasons.

Probably this change its what it took them so loong to upload

 

[amonemae]

Regarding Marchei-Hotarek, Valentina just said on her Twitter that they are skipping the GP:

https://twitter.com/valemarchei14/status/1012758369000738816?s=19

 

[eaglehelang]

I don't know about in the past, but there were a LOT of Chinese fans in Pyeongchang and Helsinki. And ACI last year too. Definitely rivaled the Japanese fans, especially in the dedication.

Chinese does not necessarily mean from China. Taiwan, Hong Kong, other Asia countries have ethnic chinese. Though China fans should be the most for figure skating by sheer numbers as they have representatives in the top 5 or top 10.

Before anyone says I'm nitpicking, for other sports, we identify ourselves by country not race. China is rival country so generally we wouldnt identify ourselves as China fans.

 

[kiches]

not sure where you Chinese fans in ACI. I was there and surrounded with Japanese fans. Yes, there were other Asian fans there, but to me a Chinese person who speaks French with a Montreal accent is just a Canadian fan ... there are a lot of Vietnamese, Koreans and Chinese people in Montreal. One Chinese boy in 2016 kept on getting calls from his mom ...ACI finished at around 1030pm and yuzu was last to skate or very close to last... and he was like MOM he hasn't skated yet ... and he turned around and told me... in French "my mom is so annoying... i want to see Yuzu.

I sat by both Chinese from China and Japanese from Japan fans, as well as Chinese and Japanese from North America. There were a lot of Chinese fans from China there for sure, many Asians can tell just by seeing or hearing if the Asian person in front of them is from North America or not.

Even at the Olympics there were a lot of fans that came from China. NBC even did a little flash to them on broadcast but mistakenly called them Japanese fans even though they were clearly speaking in Mandarin. So it’s not surprising that some people can’t tell the difference.

 

[Skye]

As for Austman, she's a host pick. I know you don't love that system, but her SB is irrelevant. As for Algotsson and Paganini, yes it seems they skipped over Kailani to give them each a spot. Though there were others higher than Craine who didn't get an event either, like Hanul Kim.

THIS. Hanul should have got at least 1 spot. Her SB is higher than Rajicova, Li, Algotsson, Paganini and I doubt she is returning to JGP after competing as a senior at 4CC, Olympics and Worlds last season. Besides, she's cute as a button. :luv17:

 

[amc987]

I know I'm late. But I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE GRACIE BACK!!!

 

[karne]

As for Austman, she's a host pick. I know you don't love that system, but her SB is irrelevant. As for Algotsson and Paganini, yes it seems they skipped over Kailani to give them each a spot. Though there were others higher than Craine who didn't get an event either, like Hanul Kim.

Then there should be an adjustment to the host pick system, because picking someone at SB125 is an absolute insult.

 

[4everchan]

Then there should be an adjustment to the host pick system, because picking someone at SB125 is an absolute insult.

if i were australian, I'd be grateful that Canada seems to have a good relationship with Australian skaters... not only do they often compete at ACI but Canada this year invited Brendan and A/W.... name me another GP host with as many Australian competitors... I feel bad for Craine as she is a great entertainer.. but picking on Larkyn is tiring...

 

[karne]

if i were australian, I'd be grateful that Canada seems to have a good relationship with Australian skaters... not only do they often compete in ACI but Canada this year invited Brendan and A/W.... name me another GP host with as many Australian competitors... I feel bad for Craine as she is a great entertainer.. but picking on Larkyn is tiring...

Oh yes, I'm sorry, I forgot. Little countries just should be grateful the big countries condescend to allow them to exist and compete. Go sit in the corner little countries and never fight for fairness, because you should just be grateful that big countries let you play at all. :sarcasm:

 

[4everchan]

Oh yes, I'm sorry, I forgot. Little countries just should be grateful the big countries condescend to allow them to exist and compete. Go sit in the corner little countries and never fight for fairness, because you should just be grateful that big countries let you play at all. :sarcasm:

be sarcastic but before picking on Canada, you could pick on Finland .. they have no ladies really in the pot... why not invite Craine???? it's not about big and small federation all the time.. China could have also invited her... where does she train? Keep in mind that Australia is far and invited skaters' flights are covered by the federation... thankfully for A/W they train in Montreal this year... so Canada will not have to pay a penny to have them... well actually the subway to the venue is 3.25$.

 

[karne]

Keep in mind that Australia is far and invited skaters' flights are covered by the federation...

Nice try, Kailani spends most of the year in California now.

 

[4everchan]

Nice try, Kailani spends most of the year in California now.

great... so why not being invited by SA? Canada did its share to support Australia and i will be cheering loudly for brendan.

and BTW california is one of the most expensive flght you can get from montreal (in North America... and I can buy cheaper flights to western Europe from Montreal)