2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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Maybe you should notice who are those people who repeatedly bring this Alysa/Ksenia "unfairness" back again and again. Definitely not those who would see Kamila (or anybody else) as a "Tutberidze's ideal skater"
As for me, I would say yes, it is unfair to put Alysa twice against the skater who was praised the most on GS for test skates, while Kamila was "not so artistic..." "rushed through the music..." etc.
FFKKR therefor seemed to set up their skaters as best as possible for qualification into JGPF. Some have to battle it out against tougher competitors than others, but such is sport. Often the qualifying itself is much more difficult due to the depth of the field, but in JGP, there is less than a dozen of real contenders.
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Sleepy? Should I wake you up for today's ladies SP?
No, thank you very much. Kamila and Maya‘s great skating will wake me up just fine even though I‘m one of those evil, evil people saying Kamila had rushed through her music at test skates.
Hi there
I think that by discussing so much about who will eventually win ( something that figure skating has proved us several times and with a painful way that literally noone can predict for sure ) , we miss so many art pieces produced by these girls , their bodies and their souls. And indeed , overhyping an athlete , we miss the opportunity to see some aspects of other athletes that are really unique and not just because we need to be politically correct.
I want to bring Ksenia Sinitsina ( video fs here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k16ieBx6eV8 ) because she is really a lady that captured me through all her programm in a way that no other russian junior lady in test skates did for me ( and last year i found her quite generic to be honest ).
About music : the music she skates to is really something authentic , experimental and very well combined the one part with the other from the choreographer. For me , it gives me contemporary dance chills , from the tribals in the first one third , to a more upbeat and mystic/ambient in the 2nd third and eventually the final lyrical piece ( which if you hear at the very end of the programm , there is a sound from a tribal that closes the music piece the same way it starts , it is like a circle in music that gives the sense of a whole).
Style of skating : the way she skates to that music , for me there came up to me one word : minimalistic! Although she has a lot of transitions in and out of her jumps ( not that many from the group of Eteri , though ) , there is always this feeling throughout the programm that every movement has its unique time in her skating , every movement follows the previous softly and sometimes you dont understand that she is about to jump. I LOVED her step sequences !!! The music there is upbeat and with this style of music , her movements could be seen as seperate from each other because of the seperate beats. But she connects them so well , as if she understands the music very well. I think that there is a bit of repetition in the arm movements as style of the choreography , but thats ok .
Sinitsina is very mature IMO . She is 15 afterall and already 1 year in the international scene. I think that last year worlds appearance gave her confidence boost and she ''sells'' herself a lot more than last year. And she communicates something from her inside in this performance. Of course this is just a personal view , but in this age , i havent seen a lot of skaters to be able to communicate with the audience . It is as if she says something with this programm for herself.
Technically , people , she puts her 2 combos (and the one is 3lz-3lo!) in the second half ! She gets the bonus and the GOE and imo is a really good competitor here :agree:
I think that by discussing so much about who will eventually win ( something that figure skating has proved us several times and with a painful way that literally noone can predict for sure ) , we miss so many art pieces produced by these girls , their bodies and their souls. And indeed , overhyping an athlete , we miss the opportunity to see some aspects of other athletes that are really unique and not just because we need to be politically correct.
I want to bring Ksenia Sinitsina ( video fs here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k16ieBx6eV8 ) because she is really a lady that captured me through all her programm in a way that no other russian junior lady in test skates did for me ( and last year i found her quite generic to be honest ).
About music : the music she skates to is really something authentic , experimental and very well combined the one part with the other from the choreographer. For me , it gives me contemporary dance chills , from the tribals in the first one third , to a more upbeat and mystic/ambient in the 2nd third and eventually the final lyrical piece ( which if you hear at the very end of the programm , there is a sound from a tribal that closes the music piece the same way it starts , it is like a circle in music that gives the sense of a whole).
Style of skating : the way she skates to that music , for me there came up to me one word : minimalistic! Although she has a lot of transitions in and out of her jumps ( not that many from the group of Eteri , though ) , there is always this feeling throughout the programm that every movement has its unique time in her skating , every movement follows the previous softly and sometimes you dont understand that she is about to jump. I LOVED her step sequences !!! The music there is upbeat and with this style of music , her movements could be seen as seperate from each other because of the seperate beats. But she connects them so well , as if she understands the music very well. I think that there is a bit of repetition in the arm movements as style of the choreography , but thats ok .
Sinitsina is very mature IMO . She is 15 afterall and already 1 year in the international scene. I think that last year worlds appearance gave her confidence boost and she ''sells'' herself a lot more than last year. And she communicates something from her inside in this performance. Of course this is just a personal view , but in this age , i havent seen a lot of skaters to be able to communicate with the audience . It is as if she says something with this programm for herself.
Technically , people , she puts her 2 combos (and the one is 3lz-3lo!) in the second half ! She gets the bonus and the GOE and imo is a really good competitor here :agree:
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Hi there
I think that by discussing so much about who will eventually win ( something that figure skating has proved us several times and with a painful way that literally noone can predict for sure ) , we miss so many art pieces produced by these girls , their bodies and their souls. And indeed , overhyping an athlete , we miss the opportunity to see some aspects of other athletes that are really unique and not just because we need to be politically correct.
I want to bring Ksenia Sinitsina ( video fs here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k16ieBx6eV8 ) because she is really a lady that captured me through all her programm in a way that no other russian junior lady in test skates did for me ( and last year i found her quite generic to be honest ).
About music : the music she skates to is really something authentic , experimental and very well combined the one part with the other from the choreographer. For me , it gives me contemporary dance chills , from the tribals in the first one third , to a more upbeat and mystic/ambient in the 2nd third and eventually the final lyrical piece ( which if you hear at the very end of the programm , there is a sound from a tribal that closes the music piece the same way it starts , it is like a circle in music that gives the sense of a whole).
Style of skating : the way she skates to that music , for me there came up to me one word : minimalistic! Although she has a lot of transitions in and out of her jumps ( not that many from the group of Eteri , though ) , there is always this feeling throughout the programm that every movement has its unique time in her skating , every movement follows the previous softly and sometimes you dont understand that she is about to jump. I LOVED her step sequences !!! The music there is upbeat and with this style of music , her movements could be seen as seperate from each other because of the seperate beats. But she connects them so well , as if she understands the music very well. I think that there is a bit of repetition in the arm movements as style of the choreography , but thats ok .
Sinitsina is very mature IMO . She is 15 afterall and already 1 year in the international scene. I think that last year worlds appearance gave her confidence boost and she ''sells'' herself a lot more than last year. And she communicates something from her inside in this performance. Of course this is just a personal view , but in this age , i havent seen a lot of skaters to be able to communicate with the audience . It is as if she says something with this programm for herself.
Technically , people , she puts her 2 combos (and the one is 3lz-3lo!) in the second half ! She gets the bonus and the GOE and imo is a really good competitor here :agree:
Thanks for your posting. I also think (and do hope very much
Kseniya Sinitsyna is going to be the surprise of the JGP qualifications. She has been given a tough road to qualify, but also seems to have this fighting spirit so she will not be daunted by her opponents.
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I think all junior girls are special in their own respect and have beautiful qualities, equally all have their own special talents.
I would say, to me, the reason Kamila stands out is primarily her flexibility.
I like her spins, they look different to most spins we see in ladies, and most spins in ladies look pretty much the same these days.
and that one thing is enough to make Kamila stand out from the rest and create this attention around her.
She's not miles and miles better than Daria or Ksenia or Nastia, they have qualities where they excel Kamila, be it having more textbook jumps, better skating skills etc.
It's just she has this trait that sets her apart from everyone else and hence she catches more attention.
I don't think people try to purposefully hype her up, people just enjoy something different and she delivers just that.
Similarly to Yulia, she also had this flexibility that captured your attention + her dark/angsty teen charisma, and that set her apart from the rest.
edit: speaking of... new video from channel 1 about Kamila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXorPhR1co
I would say, to me, the reason Kamila stands out is primarily her flexibility.
I like her spins, they look different to most spins we see in ladies, and most spins in ladies look pretty much the same these days.
and that one thing is enough to make Kamila stand out from the rest and create this attention around her.
She's not miles and miles better than Daria or Ksenia or Nastia, they have qualities where they excel Kamila, be it having more textbook jumps, better skating skills etc.
It's just she has this trait that sets her apart from everyone else and hence she catches more attention.
I don't think people try to purposefully hype her up, people just enjoy something different and she delivers just that.
Similarly to Yulia, she also had this flexibility that captured your attention + her dark/angsty teen charisma, and that set her apart from the rest.
edit: speaking of... new video from channel 1 about Kamila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXorPhR1co
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600 people already tuned in to the ISU live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfnar6DbQHs
Really pleased to hear Ted Barton again.
Really pleased to hear Ted Barton again.
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No, thank you very much. Kamila and Maya‘s great skating will wake me up just fine even though I‘m one of those evil, evil people saying Kamila had rushed through her music at test skates.
I didn't say it was you and believe me or not, I wasn't speaking about you at all this time, it is not necessary to consider yourself guilty of everything
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Pervenstvo Moskvy, September 2-5: all participants seem to have been confirmed, including the 2007 born girls: Akat'yeva, Berestovakaya, Petrosyan and Samodelkina. Very strong competition in this age group also.
https://sportvokrug.ru/competitions/6039//participants/
https://sportvokrug.ru/competitions/6039//participants/
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I’m glad they are able to participate after all. Was very confused for a bit there when fskate was showing a different list. Excited to see the 2 Sofia’s battle it out. I wonder if Samodelkina will go for the 3A?
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Or Akat’yeva for her “triksel”?
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Just tuned into the JGP live stream and my goodness, it’s so easy to forget the stark difference between the capabilities of skaters from smaller skating federations! Excited to watch the Russian ladies! Kamila is on now! 
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She missed the combo! 
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I mean she still has the free skate, she should still be able to get on the podium.
