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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

Skater Boy said:
I think it is a forgone conclusion Alysa is the next great one, the long awaited American princess so to speak. She has the jumps and is improving her artistry. This batch of Russian ladies don't seem to have the arsenal or musicality to beat Liu. I think what we really are waiting to see how the 3A's do as seniors. I am still curious about Leonova. Did she get a GP? I miss her. Kind of sad such Russian talent that we don't really hear or see her = like she is in Siberia or something?
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Many of the Russian juniors have the skating skills/artistry to beat Liu, just no quads. Also, let's not be so quick to call her 'the next great one' after one international junior competition... No one knows if her jumps are going to survive puberty
 
colormyworld240 said:
Kamila has more than enough musicality and skating skills. She's like the combination of Anna and Alena with the additions of a stable quad and better spins and none of the edge issues. Her quad also has the power of Sasha's with better speed and flow. I'd say she's the closest to the full package, with some imperfections like her rhythm in jump combos and sometimes wonky Lz/F air position (but that's much improved from last season).
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Kamila's triples aren't as consistent as any of the 3A though.
 
ec00834 said:
Many of the Russian juniors have the skating skills/artistry to beat Liu, just no quads. Also, let's not be so quick to call her 'the next great one' after one international junior competition... No one knows if her jumps are going to survive puberty
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This is true. But I can't blame anyone if they get excited about a brilliant Junior. We all realize puberty and other things can stall progress. I say let's enjoy this great rivalry for a couple years while they're juniors.
 
About GP replacements while rusfed cant controll it and the rules seems a bit fussy last year all withdrwals from major feds (Rus, Kor, Jpn etc) was replaced with a skater from the same contry first giving skaters with one event 2 and later going according to the SB list from last year. And I allso belive that rusfed has the potential to force someone to withdraw if they want. Wheter they will use that power or not is another question.

So if someone say sotskova looks unprepared at test skates and she/rusfed decides to withdraw her spot will probably be offered to:
1 Sachanovich (who has 1 assignment)
2 Tarusina (1st in SB list of those without assignments. Im unsure if she is still eligeble due to being JGP reserve but has no acctual spot. Allso she is injured so may turn it down if she gets it)
3 Gubanova (2nd in the SB list of those who have no spot)
 
Elucidus said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86AvOo6RvfE
good morning! :biggrin:
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Good morning indeed. The skaters in their last free weekend for some time to come.

Is Alina in her final school year, preparing for her state exams? 11th grade, so taking the longer school route with higher qualifications?

LOL, apart from Aleksandra it seemed all the girls got a little queasy in that gondola riding down the hill, crossing the Moskva river.
 
Elizabet is injured via her mom’s instagram. So sad. I hope she is okay. I know she is not technically Russian, but she lives and trains there. And is a direct competitor for Anna and Liza at Skate America. I don’t know what shape she will be in by then, but she may not be a major contender for GPF like we thought anymore.
 
Why should judges look back at some scores given to any skater at last year's jgp and think: "Well, since that specific russian skater got a 59 in PCS last year from a judging panel I maybe wasnt even part of, I really cannot give this skater at this jgp a similar score. Impossible!"

Judges are supposed to judge who they are watching in the competition, not what scores anyone got who is not part of that particular competition. Let's see what happens, but Im sure once Kamila and Alysa skate against each other in the same competition Kamila's PCS will still be higher.

Besides, PCS overall have been rising for years now. It is really nothing new anymore.
 
Where are the mods?

Can we please stop talking about Alysa? She is not a Russian lady.

There was a light-hearted video posted on Boss T’s YouTube channel; it shows the 4A being interviewed. Can anyone please translate what is being said? It looks interesting.
 
Bluediamonds09 said:
Where are the mods?

Can we please stop talking about Alysa? She is not a Russian lady.

There was a light-hearted video posted on Boss T’s YouTube channel; it shows the 4A being interviewed. Can anyone please translate what is being said? It looks interesting.
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You can find the translation on the channel Alina Zagitova Media for Fans.

Some interesting points:
- Alina's new dress is 'black and stylish'.
- Anna seems to have a new FS, and her costume is complex enough that she has to skate in it to get used to it.
- Sasha has not ever properly cut her hair beyond trimming.

The rest is mostly stuff about school and fun facts about the girls.
 
Grin said:
Evgenia is planning one triple lutz in her short program and two triple lutzes in her free skate. I hope she finally managed to solve that edge problem. Otherwise I don't approve this move from her.
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1077805791.html?from=main-news-fs
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Technical panel may ignore her edge if she does only one. It seems that it is some unofficial flutzing rule. We already saw what happened when she tried do do three. But maybe she indeed has better edge. It's very difficult, most skaters have to rework their jumping completely to do that. This season is going to be very difficult, so better not waste any points.
 
Grin said:
Evgenia is planning one triple lutz in her short program and two triple lutzes in her free skate. I hope she finally managed to solve that edge problem. Otherwise I don't approve this move from her.
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1077805791.html?from=main-news-fs
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This is the original source: https://rsport.ria.ru/20190902/1558144393.html

"Medvyedeva: when the cubes appeared on my stomach, I thought: “Oh, I did it!”
In an exclusive interview with RIA Novosti, two-time world champion and Olympic Games vice-champion, Yevgeniya Medvyedeva, spoke about why she had to change part of her wardrobe, remembered the most amazing acquaintance of the summer and admitted that acclimatisation still exists.

Reflection in the mirror

Q: Right after the World Championship in Saitama, you told that you intend to change your own body over the summer so it becomes possible to do more complex tech. With such a high summer workload did you succeed?
A: Despite the fact that I performed a lot in shows, I had more than enough time to implement everything I had planned. Even more than I expected. Accordingly, I managed to do everything. I changed my off-ice training very much - with an emphasis on just how to properly develop muscles.
Q: Working on yourself like that, as a rule, is not quick. When did you really begin to realise that the result you are striving for was starting to appear?
A: Speaking specifically about working with the body, about increasing muscle mass, developing the right muscles, and so on, I'm generally not a very fast person. I know people who only need to go to the gym for a week, and they are shaping up before your eyes. But it doesn’t happen to me. Therefore, from the very beginning I understood that quick results should not be expected. You just need to work every day, adhere to the schedule and nutrition, and then, maybe, someday the result will come.

Q: Well, when did that moment come when you looked at yourself in the mirror and said: “Oh! I did it”?
A: When “cubes” appeared on the upper part of my stomach. This greatly aided my moral confidence. Well, after that everything started to go upwards: during training, I began to feel stronger, looking in the mirror, I saw I was becoming slimmer, respectively, all this added motivation to further work on myself"
Q: Cubes on your stomach, I suppose, is not your only goal?
A: We work a lot on the leg muscles. There was a noticeable increase in muscle mass over the summer, my weight also increased in this regard, but, you know, this weight is different. The fat layer that always interferes with the athlete, slows down the work of muscles. But when the muscles themselves become powerful and well-developed, it gives a feeling of strength. On ice, I constantly feel that the muscles have become stronger and sharper, even jumping has gained a different rhythm. True, I had to change my wardrobe: all my trousers became tight, but the top, on the contrary, turned out to be too loose. Actually, this was just the first indicator for me that all the efforts in the gym were not in vain.

Best Lutz in the World

Q: After the World Cup, you and your coaches probably discussed a plan for working on jumps, on adding complexity to your programs. To what extent have these plans been implemented?
A: Discussing plans is a sort of a big word in this context. In our country, such discussions are usually very abstract and take two to three minutes. "Trying?" - "We try!". We decided in advance that we would add complexity to the tech part of the programs, and due to more complex images, we decided to have some cool costumes sewn for us ...
Q: I primarily meant jumping, being interested in your plans.
A: In terms of jumping, in my short program, in place of a triple Rittberger now stands a triple Lutz, and in the free there are two Lutz'es - instead of flips.
Q: Does this mean that you finally managed to overcome the problems with the wrong edge on the Lutz?
A: It is incredibly difficult for any skater to 'knock out' the inside edge on the Lutz, I can tell you that for sure. Therefore, I have to constantly monitor every move in this jump. There is progress in this regard, and it is significant, but absolutely correct execution is still only achieved by great efforts.
Q: Which skater, in your opinion, has the best Lutz in the world?
A: I like the way Nathan Chen jumps. I liked how Yuna Kim does the triple Lutz. It was always very correct and very beautiful.
Q: Talking about what you are actively trying to learn the quadruple Salchow - is this just talking, or is there something behind all this?
A: We are working on this jump, and we are working a lot. Still, let's not forget that I am learning a new jump in just a month and a half.
Q: Every athlete usually immediately understands whether he is destined to master this or that element or not.
A: I have done some good attempts at this quad, that is, from the feeling I understand myself this element is absolutely real. I'm generally not the kind of person who runs off to show others only half down work. The goal is to show the quad jump in competitions I enter.

A Million Scarlet Roses

Q: By what criteria did you choose choreographers for this season?
A: Yes, they somehow decided right away that Ilya Averbukh would stage a short program, and Shae-Lynn Bourne would be stage the free program.
Q: Because…?
A: “Just because they decided so.” Point. Ilya and I chose music together, although I was the first to offer the Exogenesis option, and the program was staged in a few days immediately after the World Cup. There were no questions at all with the Memoirs of a Geisha. As soon as I first heard the music, in my head it immediately clicked that the only person who could stage a program using it was Shae-Lynn. I can’t explain why. But I simply did not see any other choreographer for this program. In general, everything that Shae-Linn does is very close to me. She feels amazing music, movements, while the programs that she stages are always different from others and very recognisable. True, it is very important that these programs are executed exactly as they were conceived and worked out. Then they really sparkle.
Q: Was this your first experience with Bourne?
A: “Not really.” We crossed paths on more than one occasion, and this year in Korea there was even a case when I urgently needed to stage a show number. Shae-Lynn helped me a lot. She came up with a number for the Alla Pugachyova song "Million Scarlet Roses". Quite unusual things quite often happen in my career. For example, the step sequence in the short program of Averbuch was staged for me by Jeffrey Battle (2008 world champion).
Q: How did he fit in there?
A: When I returned from Moscow to Canada, I told Brian (Orser) that we need to think about how to make a sequence. He immediately responded: "as they say, what is there to think? Here is ice, and here is Jeffrey".
Q: What do you like most about this sequence?
A: Weird question. I already like the fact that I have it.
Q: Not so long ago, Tat'yana Tarasova recalled in an interview how Mao Asada always carefully set up the sequences, in which each step was thought out and put clearly into the music. That's why I asked you about it.
A: In the sequences, in my opinion, the most important thing is that they are technically performed at the fourth level. If you listened to the third Exogenesis symphony - Muse, then you probably noticed how rhythmic this music is. Skating a program using it without falling into musical accents, in my opinion, is simply impossible.

With and without a coach

Q: What is the reason for your arrival in Moscow this early?
A: First of all, the fact that it gives me the opportunity to calmly acclimatise before Test Skates.
Q: So you start to recognise acclimatisation exists?
A: Yes. Plus, I wanted to stay home longer.
Q: Does the aforesaid mean you will again return to Russia well in advance of the December national championship?
A: Yes. In general, I will try to the best of my ability to do this before all Russian starts. Although it is unlikely I will arrive in advance of the Cup of Russia.
Q: Which of your trainers will accompany you to the Test Skates?
A: Tracey Wilson will be with me during the short program, and Brian will fly in directly from Riga for the free. One of his athletes performs in Latvia at the Junior Grand Prix stage, so immediately after that, Brian will rush to the airport to be able to make it in time.

Q: CSKA still recalls with admiration how you worked there last season. Now you are doing the same. Is it difficult, or has it become a habit?
A: Not every athlete admits to this, but working without his personal trainer is always difficult. It doesn’t matter how motivated you are, how much you love to skate, but in training every minute there are some situations you want to discuss with someone, to get an outside assessment. Especially - an assessment of a person who knows all your strengths and weaknesses. It’s also hard for me without Brian and without Tracy, but I don’t complain. In addition, in Moscow I do not feel abandoned. There is Yelena Germanovna (Buyanova), who helps me in CSKA, there is Irina Anvarovna (Tagayeva), who will definitely make a remark if she sees that my legs or arms are “hanging”, or something else hurts her eyes from a choreographic point of view, so I’m not alone on the ice. Moreover, elementary safety regulations don't allow it.
Q: Orser noted at the beginning of your working together that it would only be possible to talk about some results in a year and a half, not earlier. This deadline expires in December. What has changed?
A: The work has become completely different. If in the first months I had to constantly adapt to some things, only now it sometimes seems I am skating in Cricket Club for many years.

In Darkness and no beaches

Q: Those shows in which you performed after the World Cup were perceived as a continuous stream of fairly uniform performances, or did you remember something special?
A: The Stars on Ice - Canada show was very cool. Kurt Browning performed there, with whom I had never talked before, although in principle we were familiar. Kurt quite often comes to Cricket Club to skate, but there we just greeted each other. Here, throughout the show, we were close by and talked a lot. Kurt turned out to be an interesting companion, opened my mind in a completely new perspective and, despite the fact that he is much older than me, there were no age limits at all. We did the same thing, talked about the same things, understood each other perfectly, it was great.
Q: When Browning performed in competitions, watching how breathtakingly he commands his skating runs, every time I recalled this phrase said about one of the literary heroines: "One look at her was like a university education."
A: I agree, it is very similar.

Q: The format of the show allows you to use it as a kind of training mode?
A: It was more complicated. If after each show I had the opportunity to get additional ice time, I could have easily used this time for training. If at the same time there was an opportunity to work in the dry hall, it would be great overall. But the problem is that there is no excess ice time nor a gym in the show, therefore, in fact, all such performances are held in the off-season, when most skaters have not yet even begun to prepare for the next season.
Q: But did you have such plans?”
A: Not in that particular way. At that time we had not yet created a workout plan for general physical exercises, nor a nutrition plan, so all I actually put these shows in the column "rest" - instead of a trip to the south or somewhere else. So going to the beaches this season did not happen, but this is for the best.
Q: Do you adapt quickly to stage conditions during various shows?
Q: The hardest thing is to ride in the dark. Although you get used to it. At first, your spatial awareness is completely off: you don’t see the boarding, where you jump, where you land, and this, of course, is annoying. The boards of the rink always confuse me and am constantly afraid to end my performance not where I want to.

How to say No!

Q: Your life is now strongly dependent to some business projects?
A: Since I am still an active athlete, there is not a single project I could not refuse. In other words, no matter how many proposals I have received, I will not do anything if it is at the expense of my main job. Any offer is very carefully considered in terms of dates, travel arrangements, my employment at one time or another.
Q: Do you have to refuse a lot?
A: I have to. In this regard, I've learned a very important thing: if you want to achieve something global in your life, you need to be able to say no to people.
Q: This is not always easy?
A: I know. I feel very awkward about this when, deep down in my heart, you realise that you absolutely don't need this or another, and then saying “no” without twisting your tongue. This is not necessarily about business contacts. Sometimes a person just wants to come for a visit, I want to see him myself, but I look at the clock and I understand that I can not afford to go to bed later than ten in the evening, if I have training the next day. We have to somehow escape in such a way that the refusal does not sound offensive.
Q: How comfortable do you feel in public when you come to Moscow? Surely people will recognise you out in the streets?
A: This does not stop me from meeting friends, riding the Metro. In general, I relate calmly to the fact that people recognise me. I like to meet people, I like to talk with them.

Q: Your first start is planned almost immediately after Test Skates at the Autumn International tournament in Oakville, like last year. What is this choice connected with?
A: With nothing. Just that Oakville is very convenient for us in every way. Half an hour drive from Toronto. We couldn't find, as they say, a single argument against.
Q: It is quite typical for American and Canadian ice dancers to attain their competitive shape by the end of summer. And what about singles? Personally, can you say that you are ready for the season?
A: We do not have any specific date when we begin to skate our programs in full - all this happens as you gain physical fitness. First, we skate bundles of two or three elements and it even happens you die on the third element. Then you start collecting your jumps, slowly adding sequences, spins.
Q: And then you go out and do three program run throughs for a workout?
A: This is definitely superfluous. But at the moment, I think I'm pretty well prepared for the season.
 
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