2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Edwin]

If Alyona Kanysheva is still injured, I'd rather have #TeamTutberidzeForProgress take no risks with the health of their only 2005 born star pupil.
Kamila Valiyeva is already in the final, which for the team is probably the main goal. Dar'ya Usachyova still has a decent chance, so do Anastasiya Tarakanova, Kseniya Sinitsyna and Viktoriya Vasil'yeva, but all four girls need to skate flawless in their second events and need to medal Silver or preferably Gold. For which there are two remaining chances, since it will with great certainty be Alysa Liu who will win in Gdansk.

3 starts still remain, and competition from Alysa Liu for the USA, and several JPN and KOR skaters is fierce. The strategic puzzle for FFKKR is still not solved.

 

[ruga]

That looks like an understatement of the year, re the judging. RUS judge doles out a "+1" for a 3lze< for a compatriot, while punishing Rika's 3Lz< with a "-3". That's not "puzzling and generous", that's a joke, a bad one.

Yup the Russian judge was truly a joke this competition, putting Kihira 10 points below Medvedeva. Don't know how ISU allows such judging to slide without consequences. I understand it's not a GP/Worlds/continental competition but still.

 

[Rashela]

Is only Evgenia going to Shanghai Trophy? Does anyone know? I think even Sofia was invited and maybe Anna, too.

 

[Payako]

Yes it's troubling. And no JGPF means no automatic qualifying for senior RusNats as well.

Kanysheva still has a chance at russian cup.But no JPGF means No chance to get SB except junior worlds.That means she will have to stay junior next year.

 

[Edwin]

If there was a JPG event worthy of an exhibition gala it would have to be Chelyabinsk, with packed stands and an appreciative audience.

Courchevel's gala was such a miserable affair, in Chelyabinsk all the invited performers would have been on fire.

Full marks to FFKKR, LOC and 1TV and ISU for the organisation and live streaming. JPG will never feel the same, with those cold arena's and empty stands.

 

[readernick]

That looks like an understatement of the year, re the judging. RUS judge doles out a "+1" for a 3lze< for a compatriot, while punishing Rika's 3Lz< with a "-3". That's not "puzzling and generous", that's a joke, a bad one.

I laughed when I saw the protocols. I Medvedeva and Rika but it was clear to everybody who had the technical advantage in the lp. ( except apparently to the Russian judge)

 

[Edwin]

Yup the Russian judge was truly a joke this competition, putting Kihira 10 points below Medvedeva. Don't know how ISU allows such judging to slide without consequences. I understand it's not a GP/Worlds/continental competition but still.

Shows Russia is not above such machinations to defend its position :-( Is there a judges objectivity rule in ISU, so these kind of judges won't get important international assignments?

 

[ruga]

Shows Russia is not above such machinations to defend its position :-( Is there a judges objectivity rule in ISU, so these kind of judges won't get important international assignments?

There are some judges' meetings after the event, maybe they discuss scoring there? Also, ISU has banned some particularly biased judges in the past but I haven't heard anything like that recently. I wish they could take a more serious action. It's painful to see how judges overscore skaters from their federation and underscore their main competitors, and not by 1-2 points. Many judges notoriously do that and it will be much better for the sport if such behavior was strongly discouraged.

 

[JazzUp]

There are some judges' meetings after the event, maybe they discuss scoring there?
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It's painful to see how judges overscore skaters from their federation and underscore their main competitors, and not by 1-2 points.

The JPN judge did not underscore "their main competitor" in TES (though was quite generous towards the "skater from their federation"), and heaped the exact same high PCS as the RUS one; so they definitely will have some discussion afterwards.

but it was clear to everybody who had the technical advantage in the lp. ( except apparently to the Russian judge)

Well, AUS & CAN judges had problems with their vision too, it seems

 

[laybackrelaxspinfast]

I thought Evgenia was incredible despite the jet lag. I can see clear improvements from last season and better yet clear improvements from the Olympic season when she was still training with Eteri’s team in Russia. She has much better flow on the ice and her interpretation is through the roof even at the start of the season. The technique on her jumps is greatly improved and they are definitely less muscles than they use to be. The salchow loop combination is a thing of beauty and her lutz edge is actually being held for a decent amount of time now. That doesn’t even take in to account the fact that she is getting way deeper into her edges and is near silent when she skates! But I digress, we will all see what we want to see, for some of us what we see does not correlate with reality because we’re too hurt by the past. I will be letting the results do the talking this season. :agree:

 

[Tolstoj]

The main improvement is that she skates more relaxed, i can see some attempt to make her look like Carolina in the short, with the pure opening, holding more those edges, the unitard she wears...

On the other hand though she gave up on the backloaded combinations which were the meat of her scores in the past.

 

[laybackrelaxspinfast]

The main improvement is that she skates more relaxed, i can see some attempt to make her look like Carolina in the short, with the pure opening, holding more those edges,...

On the other hand though she gave up on the backloaded combinations which were the meat of her scores in the past.

There is definitely a need for those backloaded combinations to reappear. But she is currently working on a quad salchow so I guess we will have to wait and see what they are planning for later in the season.

 

[Tavi...]

So is it okay that the Russian judge’s SP scores for Liza totaled 4.5 points more than the actual, including PCS of 35? Or that his total scores for Anna were 6 points higher than the actual?

 

[Seren]

I just watched Kamila’s lovely freeskate. I was struck by how fast she is! Ted Barton said it right- speed is power. Totally not skating related but it was really sweet when she finally smiled after getting her scores.

 

[flanker]

So is it okay that the Russian judge’s SP scores for Liza totaled 4.5 points more than the actual, including PCS of 35? Or that his total scores for Anna were 6 points higher than the actual?

Figure skating is like that old story about asking many people how long emperor's nose is. Somehow people believe that the more people you ask, the more precise the average is.

 

[zounger]

Both three Russian girls were on fire and delivered nice programs. They've been a bit overscored in GOEs I think compare to Araki for example but generally a lot better overall.

 

[Georgya]

"Well another russian princess is crowned"

Words can not express how much I love Kamilla's skating and both of her programs, her speed, her artistry, her one foot skating, her extensions, her beautiful lines. Her spins are just to die for. I'm actually in awe of her leg liftings and her skating skills. I don't know how to judge the jumps because I don't know the technique but she is launching herself with absolutly no fear and lots of speed into those quads. Everything about her is amazing. She's so fast and light when she skates. I just love watching her.

 

[Vlad Karigov]

yeaaaaaaah!!!

 

[Tavi...]

Figure skating is like that old story about asking many people how long emperor's nose is. Somehow people believe that the more people you ask, the more precise the average is.

I’m not quite sure what you mean, but thank you for your reply.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I was wondering same. She had a great season last year, making jgpf and medaling. I didn't understand why she didn't make the junior world team.

She finished 11th at Junior Nationals with an uncharacteristic skate