2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Thanks, but interestingly Sofia is definitely not using the Moulin Rouge movie rendition with Ewan McGregor, et. al. Good on her for going more obscure though.
Well... in rhytmic gymmnastics a dress cost ( in the russian team because normally they have the most expensives even of in the next year is recycled to another athelet) between 1000-2000 euros ( normally someone ask this question and the commentator answeres that's how i now the cost) ... so in the total isn't the main cost (and looking to tarakanova's dress they don't look that expensives ....
You can't compare a dress from 50 years ago to today (it was a good dress for that time probably not for today) ... You are talking about junior ladies .. that competition is anything that juniorish ... so they dresses are like the seniors because they need to prove they can beat them in every aspect
Spending loads of money on a dress is just a waste of money imo. For me, the beauty of figure skating comes from within, and the dress is just superficial props. For example, I was totally fine with what Alina was wearing during Test Skates, her program looked beautiful to me, and I don't think her Cleopatra dress enhances the performance at all. She looks beautiful in it, yes, but that is just secondary to me. Spend the money on something useful instead, I'd say. But I guess I am in the minority here...
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Spending loads of money on a dress is just a waste of money imo. For me, the beauty of figure skating comes from within, and the dress is just superficial props. For example, I was totally fine with what Alina was wearing during Test Skates, her program looked beautiful to me, and I don't think her Cleopatra dress enhances the performance at all. She looks beautiful in it, yes, but that is just secondary to me. Spend the money on something useful instead, I'd say. But I guess I am in the minority here...
I think in some cases proper costumes contribute greatly to the performance.
I didn't like Ksenia's FS at test skates as much as I liked it with the costume and make up on. On test skates it looked as if she lacked emotions in her face to me, but let me tell you, the gloves with unusual ornaments, the exotic make up, it all made her more mysterious and mystical in her free, her face was suddenly drawing me more into her performance because with that make up and costume on, she looked so unusual and it looked like she was portraying this enigmatic character in her free way more accurately than I thought she did initially! So I'd say, there are times when proper costume and make up can add quite a lot to a performance.
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I understand all the difficulties with the costumes, especially the cost aspect, but I am a sucker for a great costume. To me they add a lot to the program when done well (most works of Olga, Milena, Lisa McKinnon come to mind) and seeing new costumes is one of the most interesting parts of a new season for me.
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Uuuu I agree so much! Both of Ksenia's programs didn't make sense to me at test skates, but definitely wonderful with the costumes.
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it will be interesting to see how Kseniya Sinitsyna will fare in JGPF.
On yesterdays Ledokol live stream the host was both commendable and critical over Kseniya's skating. Sinitsyna's scores relative to Valiyeva's don't reflect the difference in actual skating skills shown. Different competitions are obviously judged differently.
Also he was worried over #TeamPanova's management of their skaters, losing too many over the last couple of years compared to other rinks. And the apparent behaviour of 'entitlement' from certain junior skaters.
All personal opinions of course, but food for thought nevertheless.
If you have the stamina to listen to 6 hours of serious talking figure skating every week you are well served by: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiMJRcdz8-A7LC7awaNF-DA
On yesterdays Ledokol live stream the host was both commendable and critical over Kseniya's skating. Sinitsyna's scores relative to Valiyeva's don't reflect the difference in actual skating skills shown. Different competitions are obviously judged differently.
Also he was worried over #TeamPanova's management of their skaters, losing too many over the last couple of years compared to other rinks. And the apparent behaviour of 'entitlement' from certain junior skaters.
All personal opinions of course, but food for thought nevertheless.
If you have the stamina to listen to 6 hours of serious talking figure skating every week you are well served by: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiMJRcdz8-A7LC7awaNF-DA
Spending loads of money on a dress is just a waste of money imo. For me, the beauty of figure skating comes from within, and the dress is just superficial props. For example, I was totally fine with what Alina was wearing during Test Skates, her program looked beautiful to me, and I don't think her Cleopatra dress enhances the performance at all. She looks beautiful in it, yes, but that is just secondary to me. Spend the money on something useful instead, I'd say. But I guess I am in the minority here...
I agree with your main point (i.e., the beauty of figure skating comes from within), although costume IS a big part of this art form. Actually I was more into her program when Alina was staking in the Test Skates. Why? Because I was with the music as she was flying cross the ice, and I was putting all sorts of costumes on her by myself (those costumes of course came from those movies and pictures on the web). Now they had her costume (almost) fixed, and I need to adjust my thinking and feeling a little. I like her dress, and I think I'll love it!
Kamila skates with more speed and has more difficult transitions, i see a bit more knee action with Kseniia.
They are both a bit stone face in my opinion, expressing the program more through movements rather than emotions.
Idk it's a matter of tastes, personally i'd say Kamila is slightly better, everything look a bit more impressive in her programs, even a simple 2a, though her technique on flip and lutz is sometimes questionable, a bit bouncy in the combo and i believe there were a couple of overlooked underrotations even (3f-2t in Courchevel, the 3f looks under, and maybe the lutz in the short in Chelyabinsk)
On Panova, idk they think the team has done a decent job this season, all their skaters in the JGP circuit went away with 2 medals, Frolova was lucky on being on weaker fields, the opposite could be said for Tarakanova.
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Trusova - is the Yuri Gagarin in figure skating. Zagitova lost, but was not upset. Tournament Results of the Week in the Match TV Review
The history of sports is written before our very eyes.
Three interesting tournaments with vivid competing and beautiful skating were completed this week in the world of figure skating. Match TV summarizes the results of the competitions in Saitama (Japan Open), Shanghai (Shanghai Trophy) and Egna (stage of the Junior Grand Prix series).
Europe beat Japan, Zagitova lost to Trusova
The history of figure skating needs to open a separate book for all the records Aleksandra Trusova is able to enter into it. This time the record at “Japan Open” was 160.53 points, but it was not officially recorded due to the commercial status of the tournament.
Trusova's layout of her free program two weeks from her last start has changed significantly. Despite the fact that all skaters will confirm - it is necessary to spend time and effort in connecting jumps and cascades in a certain sequence. Alexandra was able to fulfill her plan almost unmistakably.
In her program, not only the quadruple Salchow appeared, which Sasha last jumped in the season before last. Due to the fact that the Salchow became the first element, the quad Toeloop had to be transferred to the second half of the program, and not solo, but in a cascade with an Euler and a triple Salchow.
Finally, it became possible to replace a triple Flip with a triple Lutz.
For complete harmony, Trusova lacks a triksel - her solo double Axel in the company of dizzying four quads in the judicial protocols looks lonely.
In general, it all looks as fantastically beautiful as the first flight of Gagarin into space. Hold on to this feeling - we live at the same time as this unique athlete.
Alina Zagitova presented her Cleopatra in a new dress to the Japanese public. What a pleasure it turns out to be watching a skater who has won everything she could, but continues to skate, continues to love figure skating and is in great shape. She didn’t seem to be hurt by losing in points to Trusova’s this time. Perhaps because Alina sees Sasha and her dragons every day in training. And she perfectly understands what she is capable of now, and what her rival and teammate are capable of. Perhaps because of this, Sasha is even needed. Alina has already won her key battles and is now philosophical in her defeats.
Alina's result is 154.41 points. This is not the maximum, because levels on the sequence and spins were lost. There is also some reserve in her scores.
Thanks to the successful skating runs of Alina and Aleksandra, the European team (which also included Javier Fernandez and Denis Vasilievs) ahead of the Japanese team and won the tournament.
Medvyedeva won, but is not happy about herself
Yevgeniya Medvyedeva could count on winning the Shanghai Trophy tournament. Her most likely rival, Elisabet Tursynbayeva, recently resumed training after an injury and is in a form far from ideal.
Medvyedeva herself began not bad: she had a clean short program, except for an under rotation and an unclear edge, earned 72.16 points.
The free program did not work out at all. This is Zhenya’s lowest mark for almost her entire senior career, and indeed an anti-record with 49.49 for the tech mark. On the zeroed spins alone, Medvyedeva lost almost 4 points.
But in a sportsperson’s career there are also these gloomy days. The first stage of the Grand Prix for Yevgeniya - "Skate Canada", is October 25 - 27. There is time to correct mistakes and solve health problems if they really bother her. And the prize money from a victory in Shanghai, even if without the best skating runs, will still come in handy.
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From: https://matchtv.ru/figure-skating/m...oilas_Itogi_turnirov_nedeli_v_obzore_Match_TV
The history of sports is written before our very eyes.
Three interesting tournaments with vivid competing and beautiful skating were completed this week in the world of figure skating. Match TV summarizes the results of the competitions in Saitama (Japan Open), Shanghai (Shanghai Trophy) and Egna (stage of the Junior Grand Prix series).
Europe beat Japan, Zagitova lost to Trusova
The history of figure skating needs to open a separate book for all the records Aleksandra Trusova is able to enter into it. This time the record at “Japan Open” was 160.53 points, but it was not officially recorded due to the commercial status of the tournament.
Trusova's layout of her free program two weeks from her last start has changed significantly. Despite the fact that all skaters will confirm - it is necessary to spend time and effort in connecting jumps and cascades in a certain sequence. Alexandra was able to fulfill her plan almost unmistakably.
In her program, not only the quadruple Salchow appeared, which Sasha last jumped in the season before last. Due to the fact that the Salchow became the first element, the quad Toeloop had to be transferred to the second half of the program, and not solo, but in a cascade with an Euler and a triple Salchow.
Finally, it became possible to replace a triple Flip with a triple Lutz.
For complete harmony, Trusova lacks a triksel - her solo double Axel in the company of dizzying four quads in the judicial protocols looks lonely.
In general, it all looks as fantastically beautiful as the first flight of Gagarin into space. Hold on to this feeling - we live at the same time as this unique athlete.
Alina Zagitova presented her Cleopatra in a new dress to the Japanese public. What a pleasure it turns out to be watching a skater who has won everything she could, but continues to skate, continues to love figure skating and is in great shape. She didn’t seem to be hurt by losing in points to Trusova’s this time. Perhaps because Alina sees Sasha and her dragons every day in training. And she perfectly understands what she is capable of now, and what her rival and teammate are capable of. Perhaps because of this, Sasha is even needed. Alina has already won her key battles and is now philosophical in her defeats.
Alina's result is 154.41 points. This is not the maximum, because levels on the sequence and spins were lost. There is also some reserve in her scores.
Thanks to the successful skating runs of Alina and Aleksandra, the European team (which also included Javier Fernandez and Denis Vasilievs) ahead of the Japanese team and won the tournament.
Medvyedeva won, but is not happy about herself
Yevgeniya Medvyedeva could count on winning the Shanghai Trophy tournament. Her most likely rival, Elisabet Tursynbayeva, recently resumed training after an injury and is in a form far from ideal.
Medvyedeva herself began not bad: she had a clean short program, except for an under rotation and an unclear edge, earned 72.16 points.
The free program did not work out at all. This is Zhenya’s lowest mark for almost her entire senior career, and indeed an anti-record with 49.49 for the tech mark. On the zeroed spins alone, Medvyedeva lost almost 4 points.
But in a sportsperson’s career there are also these gloomy days. The first stage of the Grand Prix for Yevgeniya - "Skate Canada", is October 25 - 27. There is time to correct mistakes and solve health problems if they really bother her. And the prize money from a victory in Shanghai, even if without the best skating runs, will still come in handy.
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From: https://matchtv.ru/figure-skating/m...oilas_Itogi_turnirov_nedeli_v_obzore_Match_TV
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Latest issue from FFKKR's magazine "World of Figure Skating" is out: https://fsrussia.ru/files/mfk_magazine/wfk_18_2019.pdf
2018/19 World Championships recap, 2019 WTT recap and a really big interview with Alina Zagitova
2018/19 World Championships recap, 2019 WTT recap and a really big interview with Alina Zagitova
Make me want to cry again. Oh the frustration. Sasha is everyone who has ever skated. LOL. She ought to take a look at Sofia's S.'s entrance, which forces the takeoff outside the arc. Really it is genius, and textbook perfect.
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Samodelkina (born in 2007) in the meantime landed 3A in practice.
Sofia Akatyeva vs Sofia Samodelkina would be quite an interesting rivalry in the coming years!
Sofia Akatyeva vs Sofia Samodelkina would be quite an interesting rivalry in the coming years!
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Congratulations To Sonia. It's nice to see something new.
It's too early to talk about real rivalry. Unmistakable Аkatyeva (4T, 4T + 3T, 3A, 3А + 2T, 3Lz+ 3Lo) is able to win the adult World Championship. Samodelkina is not yet ready to compete at this level.
She had several months jumping 3A. In Russia it is not fashionable to put the video with all the trump cards in this season. Everyone is afraid of cool professionals from the Internet and football Newspapers. Coaches want to protect their girls from unnecessary questions. I hope Sonia is completely confident in her abilities now. I wish her luck..
I don't want to seem boring, but Sofia has not yet landed a single quad and at the last competition there were problems with 3A. Probably it's too early to talk about winning senior Worlds.
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Sof'ya Akat'yeva is scheduled for the 2nd stage of Russian Cup in KMS rank, together with her team mate Adeliya Petrosyan who already impressed many with the quality of her skating and presentation.
Sof'ya didn't have the best of outings in the 1st stage, still winning it, but will want to show she is worthy coming weekend.
More information has just been published, but still no definite start lists: https://fsrussia.ru/sorevnovaniya/4575-kubok-rossii-rostelekom-2019-2020-gg-2-j-etap.html
Sof'ya didn't have the best of outings in the 1st stage, still winning it, but will want to show she is worthy coming weekend.
More information has just been published, but still no definite start lists: https://fsrussia.ru/sorevnovaniya/4575-kubok-rossii-rostelekom-2019-2020-gg-2-j-etap.html
I was a little surprised when I saw Adeliya Petrosyan got accepted into Eteri's group, cause her current scores are way behind Sofya's. Eteri must have seen something unique in her. And as you have noticed, her presentation, which to my eye is unique among her peers. Now we see Sofya/Adeliya, then Veronika/Lyubov, then ...
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There is probably a coming and going with children in pre-novice and novice ranks in Rozanov's group. Talent alone isn't enough, you need to be able to sustain the workload, thrive under it even, along with the discipline and permanent regime of full participation and complete dedication in every lesson.
Certainly not for the faint or feeble, but this is how champions are made, hewn and polished from raw material by masters in their craft.
It will be interesting to see who of those pairings by year-of-birth Akat'yeva/Petrosyan, Zhilina/Rubtsova develops into the 'power skater' and who into the 'artistic skater'. Following the progress of these young skaters, both the girls and the boys, under the Tutberidze Effect will be very interesting.
PS, in the just published interview with Alina Zagitova, she herself also wondered what Tutberidze saw in her on the first assessment: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?60212-Alina-Zagitova&p=2472606#post2472606
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Having now watched Trusova's program on Japan Open, I gotta say... quads are cool, but some of them were bit wonky. And at this moment, my favorite moment of the program is her cantilever. She must have insane muscle strength to do that... and it's very impressive. Too bad there are no points for that.
