Maybe the best for Elizabet is to take it slow and heal. Hopefully we will see her at Worlds.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Maybe the best for Elizabet is to take it slow and heal. Hopefully we will see her at Worlds.
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Maria was guaranteed to get the spot due to her WS. This is per the ISU rules. It doesn't matter that it was a result of 3 previous seasons. That's the rules. Had the others done what she had done, they'd get the spot over her. As per the rules they're competing under. RusFed didn't make these rules, the ISU did. And these rules to qualify for GPs, are the same rules all skaters compete under regardless of nationality.
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Too many skaters and not enough spots. You can't blame Maria or Rusfed for that.
It keeps getting repeated but she earned hers by still being in the top 24 WS and has every right to go to it.
If she has it over what you consider more deserving skaters it is because despite it not being last season, she still earned it by previous achievements.
Sakhanovich has earned a spot.
Konstantinova has two.
The other two you mentioned don't and it might seem unfair but like I was trying to say if they had the previous results Maria has they might well be in her place instead. If you don't like the way GP spots are given, blame the entire qualification system, blame the fact that achievements longer than one season ago count.
Also, I think it is good that Maria's own federation haven't written her off yet, if she doesn't produce better results (it seems unlikely she'll do well but you never know) she will not get another chance.
Yes I know the rules. Gubanova and Tarusina were guaranteed a GP spot as well due to their SB. This is also per ISU rules. There is nothing in the rules that says that WS trumphs SB. They were all guaranteed spots, but too many ladies resulted in RusFed needed to step in and cut someone despite the rules. I am not saying the rules are wrong - they are what they are. What was wrong was RusFeds decision in who to cut. That I disagree with.
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Well, Tarusina has retired and Gubanova is not at her best either. (loved her SP last year). So, in the end I am not sure the Russian federation made the wrong decision.
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Sorry to say but you're the one with the problem if you simply don't like the fact Maria has that spot.
Gubanova isn't exactly doing much better and Tarusina has been forced to retire, because of injury.
So what is it you expect Rusfed to do, pull Maria off the GP just because you don't like it? Who would you send in her place?
The condition of Tarusina and Gubanova were not known by the time the assignments were made. And we haven't seen much of Gubanova yet, she scored 188 at S:t Petersburg Cup, which is below her capacity, But it is still 33 points more than what Sotskova have achieved so far.
It was an awful decision RusFed had to make. But the cards that were dealt at the time clearly showed that Sotskova was the weakest link.
Well, it is what it is now and withdrawing Maria from GP would probably not solve anything. But if I was to decide I would rather have Sakhanovich having two GP spots instead.
And I do not dislike Maria, I'm a fan of all Russian Ladies, it's just that it pains me to see wasted opportunities for other skaters.
Can some russian confirm this is real? https://www.instagram.com/p/B3aEyd-pZBC/
If so, russia reached a complete new level in figure skating!
If so, russia reached a complete new level in figure skating!
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Can some russian confirm this is real? https://www.instagram.com/p/B3aEyd-pZBC/
If so, russia reached a complete new level in figure skating!
You mean if this "Army of Skaters" club is real or not? It sure is. They have revolutionized the jump training process - check this clip with Adelina, where they use a girl's ponytail instead of a rod&harness
And soon they will be marching all over the world, together with other young Russian skaters, taking all the pedestals...
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Agreed. But sticking up for Nastya at this point is like spitting into the wind.
I wish she kept her short program from last season she could have really perfected it this season. But this years short program should turn out fine.
Actually Nsstya performed considerably better than Maria last season. Her quality of skating was much better too. But that was then this is now and Maria has been through so much and I want to see her do better and be happy. Her confidence is shot right now in my opinion and I don't know how she can get her confidence back. It's also very hard for I figure skater as tall as Masha who is 5 ft 8 in tall to do all the moves required in ladies figure skating today and that are done by skaters five six seven eight nine 10 11 inches shorter than she is. We have to be honest the competition in Russian ladies figure skating is so brutal I've never seen anything like this before in any one discipline in this sport.
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Sakhanovich or Gubanova at least if they take her spot wouldn't score 46 SP and 90+ in FS
Sotskova made the Olympics and wont be making ever again, its time hang up the skates on move on with her studies FULL Time.
The 3rd skater Gap in russian ladies is over, The Med skater gap is over too...
her skating skills has totally regressed and seems to gotten even taller, very difficult for a skater like her to be competitive, do you honestly think she will still be competitive ?
she is at the bottom of the barrell.
Two 3As meeting in the wild.
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Darya did well at the Denis Ten Memorial Challenger. Darya earned 136 points in the Free skate and placed 1st. Maiia had a fall and a step out and earned 125.69 points and placed 2nd overall.
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Get well soon, Elizabet! how unfortunate she has to miss gp
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Poor baby Maya, still struggling to skate clean. Congratulations to Daria, 2 massive scores to go in her SB, well deserved!
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There really isn't any need to be so cruel, calling someone the bottom of the barrel.
I'm sure Maria knows she won't be competitive internationally or even within Russia anymore but so what?
Maybe every single skater who isn't likely to make their national team should just retire, I mean why bother skating just for the love of the sport? (That was sarcasm btw)
Maria has said she wants to continue skating, that she loves to skate and compete and if she's happy simply to do that than what does it matter that she isn't as successful anymore?
I really wish people would stop complaining that certain skaters should retire. They skate because they want to, and will quit when they want to, not when whining fans tell them they should.
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Poor baby Maya, still struggling to skate clean. Congratulations to Daria, 2 massive scores to go in her SB, well deserved!
I feel for Maya, she's very good when she skates clean, but she's at lower end of the Eteri junior pack at the moment. It's such a highly competitive environment even within the same skating club not even counting within the nation as a whole. She seems quite fragile and nervous, I hope she can overcome that and gain confidence and consistency.
well Fumie Suguri skated for long time even Leonova has tried stay on. Im just saying if Maria knows she wont be competitive she should have just asked the Fed to withdraw her, she can skate dpomestically all she wants.
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She can skate internationally while she has the chance to, and is doing. She earned it, and clearly wants to do it while she still can. I don't see why she shouldn't, why should she withdraw just because a small group of people don't think she deserves her place?
