2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[colormyworld240]

A little late reply to this, I'm just catching up on posts. I'm on the email list to get notified for tickets and haven't seen that they are selling single event tickets yet? I could be very wrong on that though. From what I saw they are selling day tickets now, giving access to the whole day of competition, so you would be seeing more than one event. Anyways, I would like to go too, could you tell me where to go to purchase tickets for just the ladies so I can decide if it's worth the price?

I looked on evenko. Heres the link: https://tickets.evenko.ca/shop/#/68...op/select?fac=EVENKO&locale=en-CA&skin=evenko I believe they're on sale now. Maybe on Ticketmaster as well. Yes, it's for each day so there are 2 events. But still $230 gets you a seat in the 200s which is quite far away. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be attending as none of the people in my circle follow FS and I can't justify the price tag for something I'd go see just by myself .

 

[Vlad Karigov]

Horrible debut of all, it seems that the world team is already defined. Incredible that none even made the effort to stay on the podium, and asking them to win was an utopia.

 

[qwerty1195]

Damn they’re really sending a message to Liza huh :sad21:
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Anna with a fall basically scored the same as what she got for Lombardia with a cleanish skate. This scoring makes me so confused

 

[SNAKSuyun]

I feel so bad for all of them, but especially Liza and Anna. They were already disadvantaged against Sasha, Alina and Alena going into this competition, and this isn't going to help them. Anna needed clean competitions to shore up her PCS to make herself competitive with Anna (much higher PCS) and Sasha (more consistent and higher TES), and it just feels like no one really wants Liza to stick around anymore. :hopelessness:

 

[Elaine]

Damn they’re really sending a message to Liza huh :sad21:
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Anna with a fall basically scored the same as what she got for Lombardia with a cleanish skate. This scoring makes me so confused

Well Anna got < on her -3Lo here and at Lombardia. A fall on stsq this time but better PCS and slightly higher GOEs/levels. So the same score. I'd say the score makes sense.

 

[Orlov]

Damn they’re really sending a message to Liza huh :sad21:
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Anna with a fall basically scored the same as what she got for Lombardia with a cleanish skate. This scoring makes me so confused

This problem not this score, this problem of Lombardia'a score.

 

[Orlov]

Damn they’re really sending a message to Liza huh :sad21:

what "sending a message"? did you even see her program here?

 

[Ophelia]

The cards always fall differently on ice. The senior stage is a whole different ballgame.

 

[Jontor]

Not the best start for the Russian Ladies in the GP season. I feel content with Anna's skate though, the combination wasn't that good (was it really a UR?) with no running edge out of the 3Lo, and the fall in the StepSeq was just bad luck. The rest was superb imo. She shouldn't be too upset.

Liza is a different story. Excellent 3A as always but the rest is not there. Only 3T3T, and a bad one at that, UR on the 3Lz, lost levels on all spins and footwork. There is no point in having a fantastic 3A if all the other elements are suffering.

Stanislava. This was a disaster. I had such high hopes for her after the Aurora Games, but it seems she just can't jump under pressure. Two falls is just too much...

 

[skatergurl7]

Why doesn’t Anna just stick to a luz toe combo? The loop always looks like a struggle

 

[Jontor]

Why doesn’t Anna just stick to a luz toe combo? The loop always looks like a struggle

I would like her to change it to a 3F3Lo in the short and have the 3Lz as the single jump. I think that would suit her better.

 

[lanceupper1114]

At least ПЕРВЫЙ КАНАЛ is working, rhythmic dance is in progress. That ISU YT channel turned out to be a joke (geoblocking). Waiting for Ladies competition.

I have an app called Psiphon on iPad, which allows you to change location, I just switched my region to Japan. It’s a free app also available on Android and Windows etc. Then you can watch on YT.

 

[readernick]

Why doesn’t Anna just stick to a luz toe combo? The loop always looks like a struggle

I agree. Her 3lz3lo does not look steady even in practice. The UR was clear.

 

[Tolstoj]

Anna's score is fair, it's pretty much the same as Lombardia despite the mistakes, it would have been a SB otherwise.

But Liza i don't get it, it's like judges are finding every possible reason to underscore her: components still low, underrotation on the lutz which i don't see (yes the free leg touched so negative GOE are expected, but that doesn't mean underrotation).

She downgraded her flip-toe to toe-toe probably after the results at Finlandia Trophy but personally i wouldn't have done it, since she rarely got edge calls in her career, and she didn't get it at Lombardia, i'd stick to the flip-toe for more difficulty.

She can still recover with a clean free skate and she does have two triple axels, an element no one else has in this event, but given the 4-6 points difference the judges made it super difficult for the both Anna and Liza to win the event and it's also possible that one of the two will stay out of the podium.

 

[readernick]

Anna's score is fair, it's pretty much the same as Lombardia despite the mistakes, it would have been a SB otherwise.

But Liza i don't get it, it's like judges are finding every possible reason to underscore her: components still low, underrotation on the lutz which i don't see (yes the free leg touched so negative GOE are expected, but that doesn't mean underrotation).

She downgraded her flip-toe to toe-toe probably after the results at Finlandia Trophy but personally i wouldn't have done it, since she rarely got edge calls in her career, and she didn't get it at Lombardia, i'd stick to the flip-toe for more difficulty.

She can still recover with a clean free skate and she does have two triple axels, an element no one else has in this event, but given the 4-6 points difference the judges made it super difficult for the both Anna and Liza to win the event and it's also possible that one of the two will stay out of the podium.

I think the judges were fair to Anna. That score was right were it should have been.. perhaps even a tiny bit generous. She made it difficult on herself, the judges didn't do that to her. It is natural for her to be nervous in her first senior competition.

But, I do agree that Liza's score was too low. That 3lz was not UR (although the negative GOEwas justified. )

 

[Kittosuni]

I agree. Her 3lz3lo does not look steady even in practice. The UR was clear.

Even if the combo is clean she will not get good GOE anyways because she finishes in almost a complete stop.

I say ditch that loop and replace it with a toe. The higher GOE will cancel out the extra BV of the loop.

Since she is doing two 4Lz hopefully she will ditch the second 2A.

4Lz, 4Lz, 3F+3T, 2A / 3Lz+3T, 3F+er+3Sal, 3Loop

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Not the best start for the Russian Ladies in the GP season. I feel content with Anna's skate though, the combination wasn't that good (was it really a UR?) with no running edge out of the 3Lo, and the fall in the StepSeq was just bad luck. The rest was superb imo. She shouldn't be too upset.

Liza is a different story. Excellent 3A as always but the rest is not there. Only 3T3T, and a bad one at that, UR on the 3Lz, lost levels on all spins and footwork. There is no point in having a fantastic 3A if all the other elements are suffering.

Stanislava. This was a disaster. I had such high hopes for her after the Aurora Games, but it seems she just can't jump under pressure. Two falls is just too much...

Stanislava also had issues during the practices the past few days, people at the rink said that she really forced her jumps and struggled to jump them. I think it is more than the pressure that is going on there. Possible boot issues? She also had them during the Challenger Series. Stanislava looked in good shape during the summer so I don't think the reason is a lack of training.

 

[readernick]

Even if the combo is clean she will not get good GOE anyways because she finishes in almost a complete stop.

I say ditch that loop and replace it with a toe. The higher GOE will cancel out the extra BV of the loop.

Since she is doing two 4Lz hopefully she will ditch the second 2A.

4Lz, 4Lz, 3F+3T, 2A / 3Lz+3T, 3F+er+3Sal, 3Loop

Agree about the 3lz3lo in the sp but your layout is not possible. She can't do 2 4Lz, 2 3Fs, and 2 3Ts. You are only able to repeat two jumps (triples or quads) and she has to do one 4Lz in combination.

 

[ruga]

Even if the combo is clean she will not get good GOE anyways because she finishes in almost a complete stop.

I say ditch that loop and replace it with a toe. The higher GOE will cancel out the extra BV of the loop.

Since she is doing two 4Lz hopefully she will ditch the second 2A.

4Lz, 4Lz, 3F+3T, 2A / 3Lz+3T, 3F+er+3Sal, 3Loop

Unfortunately, this layout wouldn't be possible. 1) there are 2 4Lzs and none of them in combination. The second one would get +REP and deduction.
2) 2 triples (3F,3T) and one quad are repeated. A skater can repeat only two of any quads or triples

The reason why loop combo is quite important is because without it she couldn't repeat jump other than 3T without doing a +2T combo and Euler. Example layout could be: 4Lz+2T, 4Lz, 2A, 3Lo, 3Lz-3T, 3F-eu-3S, 3Lz or 4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A, 3Lz+3T, 3F-eu-3S, 3Lo

 

[Kittosuni]

Unfortunately, this layout wouldn't be possible. 1) there are 2 4Lzs and none of them in combination. The second one would get +REP and deduction.
2) 2 triples (3F,3T) and one quad are repeated. A skater can repeat only two of any quads or triples

The reason why loop combo is quite important is because without it she couldn't repeat jump other than 3T without doing a +2T combo and Euler. Example layout could be: 4Lz+2T, 4Lz, 2A, 3Lo, 3Lz-3T, 3F-eu-3S, 3Lz or 4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A, 3Lz+3T, 3F-eu-3S, 3Lo

you are right 4Lz+3T as she was practicing at skam