2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Orlov]

People, I'm sorry, I understand that the moment is not successful, but Liza’s actually really has bad rotation on 3A - she landing on toepick and twists about 90 degrees (this time even seems a little more) on ice. It's landing Alyse Liu-style. Yes, she has a big height of this jumpe (maybe confusion arises because of this?), but not a high enough rotation speed.

I'm too lazy to make a video. Just check yourself frame by frame, it's easy - pause, to move the video one frame forward - press a dot '.', to return one frame back - press a comma ','.

Well, I do not say that here must certainly call UR. But this is definitely not good, "lacking rotation", "Alyse Liu-style".

Just I'm so tired to hear that she has the "best axel technique in the world" (Mishin said this recently and now everyone in RuNet is repeating it)

 

[flanker]

Why doesn’t Anna just stick to a luz toe combo? The loop always looks like a struggle

Because that's not how it works. I remember when Alina had problems with this combo (and with her Black Swan program), she was offered to change into -3T and turn back to her Samson&Dalila program, but she said no. You can't see those girls as having no ambitions, as retreating in face of the first struggles. They are this good because they are not afraid to fight with themselves. You can't recognize a champion by that he does flawless all the time, but that he can rise again and challenge himself even when everything doesn't work immediately. Alina went through the very same difficulties at the beginning of her first senior season and at the end she was an olympic champion. Anna has all the preconditions to repeat it.

It should be also mentioned that it is not so easy to go from -3Lo combo to -3T, Alina can tell how it was difficult to have both at once.

All in all, I think that it is in fact positive that everything doesn't work immediately, that an athlete must deserve his success and learn how to "grab" the result. From Anna's words after the short it is obvious that she is aware of what was wrong and that she will do everything to be better next time. In Italy after disappointing score after the SP she returned on the ice with the head straight and delivered strong program. Now, when the score is fair and she is aware of what was wrong she will do it again tomorrow (for me tomorrow ).

 

[silverfoxes]

Stanislava also had issues during the practices the past few days, people at the rink said that she really forced her jumps and struggled to jump them. I think it is more than the pressure that is going on there. Possible boot issues? She also had them during the Challenger Series. Stanislava looked in good shape during the summer so I don't think the reason is a lack of training.

You sure about that? Valentina seems to me to be a horrible coach. You always know her skaters are going to bomb and no amount of excuses can explain that many failures, season after season.

After watching the 1tv piece about Stasya, maybe she also ought to spend a bit less time admiring herself in the mirror, and more time working on her myriad issues. She is just taking valuable assignments away from other deserving skaters at this point.

 

[Vandevska]

After watching the 1tv piece about Stasya, maybe she also ought to spend a bit less time admiring herself in the mirror, and more time working on her myriad issues. She is just taking valuable assignments away from other deserving skaters at this point.

I will never understand comments like this. [emoji135]

 

[flanker]

You sure about that? Valentina seems to me to be a horrible coach. You always know her skaters are going to bomb and no amount of excuses can explain that many failures, season after season.

After watching the 1tv piece about Stasya, maybe she also ought to spend a bit less time admiring herself in the mirror, and more time working on her myriad issues. She is just taking valuable assignments away from other deserving skaters at this point.

Maybe she asks: Magic mirror on the wall, which is the most not-friendly comment of them all...

 

[NadezhdaNadya]

Honestly I think Anna should have been 6th today (after Karen and Liza). She has such a bad technique and prerotates her (tiny) jumps. I do not get the hype about her at all. Alyona is a much beter skater - she has fluidity, bigger jumps, everything better (even though her technique is also not perfect).

 

[Yuna Luna]

I just want to say, I freaking love Anna. I know her technique isn’t the best, but for me personally, she makes up for the weaknesses with her depth of performance and expression. And no matter how her technique is, it’s not fair to ignore the difficulty of her jump content. Yeah, there are ladies with textbook technique, but can they do 4Lz or 3Lz-3Lo like Anna? Have they done 4F, 4Lz-3Lo, or 4T-3T-3Lo?

Anyway, I hope that tomorrow she will finally land the second quad in an international competition!

 

[skatergurl7]

You sure about that? Valentina seems to me to be a horrible coach. You always know her skaters are going to bomb and no amount of excuses can explain that many failures, season after season.

After watching the 1tv piece about Stasya, maybe she also ought to spend a bit less time admiring herself in the mirror, and more time working on her myriad issues. She is just taking valuable assignments away from other deserving skaters at this point.

Which Russian skater that doesn’t have a GP assignment skates better than Staysa? Tonight wasn’t her night but when she delivers she’s great.

 

[readernick]

I don't like all these horrible comments about Stanislava. She had a bad day. So what? Everyone has a bad day every now and then. She is obviously not someone who finds it easy to compete. Not everyone is blessed with great competition nerves like Trusova. She is actually a lovely skater. I think her basic SS skills were among the best at this competition (probably only less stellar than Kaori). There is no doubt that she a hardworking woman. Please think before commenting and consider how hard these skaters are working everyday! Constructive criticism is fine but there is a line between constructive criticism and just being plain rude.

 

[Baron Vladimir]

Honestly I think Anna should have been 6th today (after Karen and Liza). She has such a bad technique and prerotates her (tiny) jumps. I do not get the hype about her at all. Alyona is a much beter skater - she has fluidity, bigger jumps, everything better (even though her technique is also not perfect).

Evaluation of a skater is not based on amount of 'pre-rotation' in her/his jumps. Actually, the judging system which is dealing with evaluation of a skater is using another terms to describe skating. And if you can't see positives in someone's skating, that's not the problem of a people who 'hyped' someone.

 

[Tolstoj]

Which Russian skater that doesn’t have a GP assignment skates better than Staysa? Tonight wasn’t her night but when she delivers she’s great.

Elizaveta Nugumanova, Alena Leonova.

Not saying that Konstantinova didn't deserve the assignment, she earned it with previous competitions but very much like Sotskova, if this is the trend going forward, she will lose her spots sooner rather than later.

 

[Scott512]

You sure about that? Valentina seems to me to be a horrible coach. You always know her skaters are going to bomb and no amount of excuses can explain that many failures, season after season.

After watching the 1tv piece about Stasya, maybe she also ought to spend a bit less time admiring herself in the mirror, and more time working on her myriad issues. She is just taking valuable assignments away from other deserving skaters at this point.

Why SF why? Your comments about SK and her coach are just too harsh. I know you are disappointed some skaters got left out of the Grand Prix series who deserve to be in it and I believe that's where you're harsh comments come from. We are all disappointed stanislava had one of the worst skates of her career. None of the three Russinas skated to expectations by any means and Stasya bombed her skate. But she almost always bounces back and the free skate. Hoping for the best for her tomorrow and Anna and Liza too because they should be on the podium if they skate well.

And your comment about Stasya spending too much time looking in the mirror may not be fair. We dont know that. All the Russian girls love fashion and photo shoots and interviews. Also Stasya like all the Nastyas are not mental killers like the Eteri girls. They obviously have talent but they arent mentally tough like Eteris girls are. It just the way it is.

 

[Jontor]

Congratulations to Sofia who won the Challenger Ice Star in Minsk. She skated a solid long program and had the score 187.16.

 

[Edwin]

Congratulations to Sofia who won the Challenger Ice Star in Minsk. She skated a solid long program and had the score 187.16.

Indeed. Hopefully she'll get a confidence boost and some positive self-confirmation she is on her way back to top form and back in contention before her GP stages.

 

[Grin]

Anna's interview after her SP at Skate America
https://twitter.com/Dear_AnyaS/status/1185507813784612864?s=19

 

[Scott512]

Congratulations to Sofia who won the Challenger Ice Star in Minsk. She skated a solid long program and had the score 187.16.

Congrats SS. But that score won't get her anywhere this season.

 

[Elana]

Much like Alina in her first GP season who came in 4th and 5th in her shorts, Anna also had a roughish program. But Alina was able to pull it together in the long and win both her events, I think Anna will follow in her footsteps and do the same. I wouldn't be surprised if she lands both her lutzes and grabs a huge score and the gold. Best of luck to Anna and all the other ladies in the free :agree:

 

[VenusHalley]

Stanislava should use sport psychologist. This is such a vicious cycle to her. She messes up and surely must be aware of the backlash, which probably affects her in her skating.

We seen she can land her stuff. She gets highish PCS. But if you fall twice in SP and underrotate... no chances to get too far

 

[SnowWhite]

Elizaveta Nugumanova, Alena Leonova.

Not saying that Konstantinova didn't deserve the assignment, she earned it with previous competitions but very much like Sotskova, if this is the trend going forward, she will lose her spots sooner rather than later.

There's a pretty good chance that Stasya will still be top 24 on the WS list after this season, like Sotskova for this year.

 

[Mishaminion]

Stanislava should use sport psychologist. This is such a vicious cycle to her. She messes up and surely must be aware of the backlash, which probably affects her in her skating.

We seen she can land her stuff. She gets highish PCS. But if you fall twice in SP and underrotate... no chances to get too far

It's such a shame. She's a lovely lady but the lack of consistency is a serious problem. She can't seem to handle pressure at all, her mistakes pile up, and that won't get her anywhere. Such a huge contrast to the incredibly fearless Sasha Trusova, who laughs off any mistakes as if they're nothing and keeps throwing down quads like it is the easiest thing in the world.
I could see as soon as she stepped on the ice that Stanislava wasn't going to skate well, she had no confidence in herself.