2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Edwin]

Zagitova probably has to find a ‘new balance’.

She shouldn’t relax too much, for the internal competition is fierce. She’ll have some explaining to Eteri Georgiyevna to do ...

Let’s see what she brings to the ice on Saturday.

 

[Arbitrary]

Empress down, Queen up...

 

[starla16]

Zagitova deinitely has more of mental issue by not yet skating a clean SP
the last spot is open with one mistake from Anna, being the weak link
but Zagitova needs to clean her act now because Med is ready to take that last spot

Med and Zagitova ned to seize the opporunity whenever there is given the third spot is not sealed.
you never when Anna misses her quads and shes done.

Im betting atm the Euros Team as Trusova, Kostornia and Med

 

[starla16]

Empress down, Queen up...

Empress is Liza ? who is the Queen
Yuna was supposedly given queen but shes retired now.

 

[flanker]

Yeah that pop really costed Alina. I wonder what going on with her mentally, all her practices have been clean at here and IdF, but she can't put it together during competition. Seems like a repeat of last season so far; strong first outing then something happens on the GPs.

It's almost a career low for her; that's the second lowest SP score of her entire international career. And the first time she popped and missed the combo in the SP, ever.

I hope she can sort that out for the FS because she has skated these two programs clean in practice all season. It's a mental game for her now.

No, Alina popped combo in SP at GP Helsinki last season.

 

[Fluture]

I‘m thrilled for Aliona but sad for Alina and Sofia. More so for Sofia actually, even though seeing Alina in the K&C was heartbreaking. But I believe she will be back in the FS easily and reach the podium. Probably Aliona’s score spooked her a bit. Tomorrow she will have adjusted to that and will go out calmly again and skate like she d in practice. She has popped the combo before in the SP and then got a clean FS the next day and won (one of her GP events last season, wasn‘t it?). Winning will be difficult here but I can‘t see anyone seriously challenging her for a medal.

Sofia, though, is another case. I‘m still sorry that I forgot her and yes, it does seem as if the judges did too. I mean, her jumps aren‘t the greatest but... her score is still really, really low. That spread eagle into 2A was really nice and yet she doesn’t get good GOEs for it. Her presentation isn‘t as sharp as last year, true, but still... it just doesn’t seem right. I feel sorry for her. She‘s proving times and again how consistent and mentally strong she is but that‘s just not going to cut it anymore these days. But I‘ll have to applaud her for skating cleanly again while going through all these body changes. What a competitor!

Good luck to all the ladies in the FS: SOFIA (this time, I won‘t forget you), Alina and Aliona!

 

[flanker]

Zagitova deinitely has more of mental issue by not yet skating a clean SP
the last spot is open with one mistake from Anna, being the weak link
but Zagitova needs to clean her act now because Med is ready to take that last spot

Med and Zagitova ned to seize the opporunity whenever there is given the third spot is not sealed.
you never when Anna misses her quads and shes done.

Im betting atm the Euros Team as Trusova, Kostornia and Med

For advancing to the finals Alina needs just to be 4th with the score 188, but that would be considered too low for her standards.

 

[Seruleane]

Thrilled for Aliona, devastated for Alina. Aliona continues to be amazing. But, are we sure Alina was too loose/relaxed prior to the competition? I have never quite believed the narrative that “the pressure is off” now that she has won OGM, WGM, and the 3A are here to ease the burden from her being Russia’s number 1. From a competitive athlete’s POV, as long as you are competing, you are in it to win it. Having all the titles already doesn’t ever make it easier, it just gets harder because of motivation issues, pressure, etc. It must be hard for Alina to see the 3A blow past her, and Aliona whip out her 3A again so easily (obviously I know it’s a lot of work, but I mean in comparison Alina cannot just up her jump content as quickly as the 3A can).
Also, personally out of the 3A, Aliona would be the most intimidating to compete against IMO- she is practically the perfect/ideal skater, even usual non-fans of Russian ladies have to admit how impressive she is...

Whatever the case may be, I hope Alina gets it together before the FS, and her team helps her with this. I don’t care about scores or placement at this point, just want her to have a skate she can be proud of.

 

[Decoder]

Yeah that pop really costed Alina. I wonder what going on with her mentally, all her practices have been clean at here and IdF, but she can't put it together during competition. Seems like a repeat of last season so far; strong first outing then something happens on the GPs.

It's almost a career low for her; that's the second lowest SP score of her entire international career. And the first time she popped and missed the combo in the SP, ever.

I hope she can sort that out for the FS because she has skated these two programs clean in practice all season. It's a mental game for her now.

Definitely. Although Alina said that she'd just go out and skate for herself, she's definitely very nervous. This is a new challenge. But I have confidence in her. She will recover in the free.

 

[starla16]

For advancing to the finals Alina needs just to be 4th with the score 188, but that would be considered too low for her standards.

I know Alina can still make the GPF, Im saying currently based on their form.
Med is ahead of Zagitova and Tuk

 

[flanker]

I know Alina can still make the GPF, Im saying currently based on their form.
Med is ahead of Zagitova and Tuk

I hope someone will not take it as "diminishing of skater's success", but Zhenya is on 7th place already, so she could advance into the finals only as a substitude even if none of the trio Alina, Aliona Rika would. With Aliona and Rika being obviously in the top form it is very improbable they wouldn't and Alina even with today's SP is still a main contender for a bronze medal (unless she would completely mess her free, that would depend on her mental state). And Liza is 6th, so she is not below Zhenya (though Zhenya has higher total score).

But if I may take Zhenya as an example, at Skate Canada she messed SP and then recovered well for the free, I hope Alina will do the same here.

As someone questioned whether she is too much relaxed now, I think she is most of the time and only before the very competition she starts to realize that now she has to do her best.

 

[starla16]

I hope someone will not take it as "diminishing of skater's success", but Zhenya is on 7th place already, so she could advance into the finals only as a substitude even if none of the trio Alina, Aliona Rika wouldn't. With Aliona and Rika being obviously in the top form it is very improbable they wouldn't and Alina even with today's SP is still a main contender for a bronze medal (unless she would completely mess her free, that would depend on her mental state). And Liza is 6th, so she is not below Zhenya (though Zhenya has higher total score).

But if I may take Zhenya as an example, at Skate Canada she messed SP and then recovered well for the free, I hope Alina will do the same here.

As someone questioned whether she is too much relaxed now, I think she is most of the time and only before the very competition she starts to realize that now she has to do her best.

Im saying about their current form mental and physical
not their GPF standings

 

[fabienne1996]

"Current form" is pretty delusive term. Alina missed combo, but so far she had no falls in the season (one near at IdF she saved). What would one say about the "current form" of Zhenya after her SP at Skate Canada or after Shanghai Trophy. That is a thing that can change from one program to another as she proved just the another day in the free. Alina skates perfectly clean at trainings so there is no sign of a technical of physical problem that would allow to say her "current state" is low, it's just a matter of menatal preparation.

At Shanghai she was sick and still competet , which is known and she also said it ,. And skate Canada well itsthe same as with alina it is the mental aspect, the fall came because in the moment she was skating she did go back to her old jumping way which is just not working for her anymore, but it is her muscle memory, she has spent years jumping this way and yes she basically has to rewrite he muscle memorys. With alina it also seems either she was to eased up or it's also mental who knows let's hope she can comeback tomorrow with a clean fs skate

 

[flanker]

Im saying about their current form mental and physical
not their GPF standings

Note: Corrected reply, originally it somehow it showed as a reply to a previous comment.

"Current form" is pretty delusive term. Alina missed combo, but so far she had no falls in the season (one near at IdF she saved). What would one say about the "current form" of Zhenya after her SP at Skate Canada or after Shanghai Trophy. That is a thing that can change from one program to another as she proved just the another day in the free. Alina skates perfectly clean at trainings so there is no sign of a technical of physical problem that would allow to say her "current state" is low, it's just a matter of menatal preparation.

 

[flanker]

At Shanghai she was sick and still competet , which is known and she also said it ,. And skate Canada well itsthe same as with alina it is the mental aspect, the fall came because in the moment she was skating she did go back to her old jumping way which is just not working for her anymore, but it is her muscle memory, she has spent years jumping this way and yes she basically has to rewrite he muscle memorys. With alina it also seems either she was to eased up or it's also mental who knows let's hope she can comeback tomorrow with a clean fs skate

I'm not denying Zhenya was sick, that in fact support what I say about the "current state".

 

[fabienne1996]

I'm not denying Zhenya was sick, that in fact support what I say about the "current state".

Yes it is not their current state physically but i think it's both their mental states, i don't know but alina while I am happy to see her being like a bit eased up was a bit too eased up here, or it is soemthing different but it's definitely not something wiith her body or anything like that, same aszhenya she skates amazing in practice

 

[pororocheburashka]

Stanislava Konstantinova is not going to Zagreb (ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2019, 52nd edition, oldest international regular figure skating competition in the world) in early December. For now no substitute from Russia. Any changes possible? Currently among entries: Samodurova and Tuktamysheva only.

 

[flanker]

Yes it is not their current state physically but i think it's both their mental states, i don't know but alina while I am happy to see her being like a bit eased up was a bit too eased up here, or it is soemthing different but it's definitely not something wiith her body or anything like that, same aszhenya she skates amazing in practice

She needs her "killer instincts" back

 

[Mishaminion]

Alyona was exquisite!! She really has it all and her 3A looks to me like it's been polished up much more.

Alina...oh dear, shes a fighter and I think bronze is within her reach. All is not lost yet, fingers crossed for a better FS

Sofia... a UR and tiny jumps that look like hard work but still... that score. The judges really do not like Mishin girls this season do they

 

[DenissVFan]

Stanislava Konstantinova is not going to Zagreb (ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2019, 52nd edition, oldest international regular figure skating competition in the world) in early December. For now no substitute from Russia. Any changes possible? Currently among entries: Samodurova and Tuktamysheva only.

They should add Tsibinova. Or Gubanova but that doesn't seem likely.