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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

Bluediamonds09 said:
Thanks for listing all the ladies competing. �� I am familiar with all except Tsibinova and Shulskaya. How old are they? Who coaches them?
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Sorry for missing Gubanova in that list! I don't know what happened. (Corrected it of course, she's 9th).

Tsibinova won the Russian Cup group stages with two wins in her events.
Shulskaya I know nothing about. She came from nowhere in the last RC and was wonderful, before that she was so so.

Maybe Spirals for Miles knows more about these girls??
 
Jontor said:
Anyone excited for the Russian Nationals?

We have 18 fierce ladies battling it out.

Here's how I rank them (for now)

1. Anna Shcherbakova (if she lands that 4F)
2. Alena Kostornaia (will all her 3A's be clean?)
3. Alexandra Trusova (needs to land 4 quads)
4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva (will she try that 4T?)
5. Evgenia Medvedeva (needs to be superclean, can she do it?)
6. Ksenia Sinitsyna (this is her chance to shine)
7. Ksenia Tsibinova (new girl on the block, can she deliver?)
8. Anastasia Tarakanova (needs a clean skate)
9. Anastasia Gubanova (can go higher if she's on)
10. Viktoria Vasilieva (has the potential to go higher)
11. Anastasia Gulyakova (needs the best skate of the season)
12. Elizaveta Nugumanova (please, no URs, please)
13. Serafima Sakhanovich (hasn't really proven herself yet this season, can she do it now?)
14. Sofia Samodurova (needs to fight those URs and get the fire back)
15. Anna Frolova (can she hold up under pressure?)
16. Stanislava Konstantinova (if she can hold it together, she might be Top6)
17. Valeria Shulskaya (new girl, has she the nerves for it?)
18. Maria Talalaykina (been shaky so far, can she improve?)

It will be a wonderful event I'm sure. :jaw::rock::cheer::popcorn::curse::eeking::hap93::coffee:
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That's brutal if the reigning European champ who was top 10 at Worlds can't make the top 10 here.
 
Albus said:
Hi all first and foremost
Second. Mishin is Russian, that means he went from a country and culture which was a world pioneer and highly progressive in terms of women's rights and had achieved 100% gender equality more than a hundred years ago, thus such things are fully in his mind since the very childhood. He may be in the 50s and nothing would changed, his or anybody's else thinking in the 50s in soviet union are quite progressive even now, not in Russia of cause but in some places in the world including western Europe and north america. He is definitely not old fashioned by American standards. When the N word was common in the us, Russia sent the very first woman in space. Don't forget about this next time. There are huge cultural differences as I see when Russians don't even think the way which Americans do think because everything about gender equality in Russian culture was achieved long time ago and nobody of currently living human beings remembers something different.
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Very insightful

Thankyou!!!!
 
drivingmissdaisy said:
That's brutal if the reigning European champ who was top 10 at Worlds can't make the top 10 here.
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Yes it is. And I don't think that will happen. They will probably try to hold her up with PCS. But Sofia will for sure have a hard time getting into that top 10.
If she's clean she might make it.
 
Jontor said:
Yes it is. And I don't think that will happen. They will probably try to hold her up with PCS. But Sofia will for sure have a hard time getting into that top 10.
If she's clean she might make it.
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Or how many URs she gets...she's struggling to rotate thanks to puberty and I doubt that has changed much since we last saw her.
 
Jontor said:
I don't what happened!! Gubanova is obviously ninth.
I hope this is not yet a sign that Gubanova will be overlooked...
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it probably will be a sign that she will be overlooked. I now think Nastia has a chance to be on the Russian B team in the next year or so. Especially if Stasya and Sofia continue their shocking declines this season. I am just hoping she is done with puberty and is getting along great with her new team.

Well then if you add Nastia then that gives you 19 skaters in your list. who did you bump off?

How many skaters per discipline are there four World euros and Olympics? Isn't it like between 24 and 32? Too bad Russia only has eighteen spots for dozens of quality skaters.
 
Scott512 said:
it probably will be a sign that she will be overlooked. I now think Nastia has a chance to be on the Russian B team in the next year or so. Especially if Stasya and Sofia continue their shocking declines this season. I am just hoping she is done with puberty and is getting along great with her new team.

Well then if you add Nastia then that gives you 19 skaters in your list. who did you bump off?

How many skaters per discipline are there four World euros and Olympics? Isn't it like between 24 and 32? Too bad Russia only has eighteen spots for dozens of quality skaters.
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I didn't add one at all. If you look at your prev post, #9 was missing, and that was our Gubanova.
Hey, Scott, I'm whispering now because I don't want anyone to hear. I actually think Gubanova might place higher. But we can't jinx it...so ssshhhhhh
 
KOBOT37 said:
If that Poem means anything regarding to FS, it means that Eteri is heartbroken from Alina's decision
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It's a very unfortunate choice of a poem, or maybe conscious trolling. Because the poem's author, Marina Tsvetaeva, apart from being famous for her beautiful poems, is also infamous for being a sadistic mother. She gave up her kids to orphanage, where she let her two year old daughter starve to death, and then made her seven year old daughter believe it was the 7 y.o.'s fault.
 
Sinitsina is the strongest junior at Sr. Nationals this year. But I don't think she will be on the podium. She's scored quite well actually; in Chelyabinsk she essentially scored the same at Valieva (if you remove the quad). Panova has produced many talented girls but I don't think she's established enough as a senior coach. All her promising juniors have left her at one point or another. Sotskova went to Buyanova, Tarakanova and Kanysheva went to Eteri, but Tarakanova is back with her now. I think if she keeps her momentum going, she can establish herself as one of Russia's top coaches in time. I believe this is how Eteri started as well; she gave an interview a long time ago saying when she first started she lost a lot of her stronger students to well established coaches. But things improved when she gained more experience as we can see now.
 
colormyworld240 said:
Yuna Kim announces a break, South Korea supports her and thanks her for winning an olympic gold for their country. Kaetlyn Osmond announces a break, Canadian skating champions, past and present, come out to support and give highlights in her career. Mao Asada and Carolina Kostner are backed by federations who love and support them, give encouragement during their lows and applaud them for their fight and comebacks. Adelina Sotnikova wins olympic gold then takes a break, and Russian skating higher-ups applaud and support her.

Alina Zagitova wins olympic gold - the only individual gold for Russia in the entire olympics, and the most influential person in Russian figure skating, TAT, comments in the live broadcast that the judges have it wrong and Alina doesn't deserve it. TAT goes on national television to tell Alina's father that she loves another skater more. Alina has a meltdown at worlds, TAT tells the world "see, we can't depend on her". Alina has a difficult season and struggles, TAT comments that she doesn't have fire in her eyes and doesn't skate well. Alina wins worlds, post olympics and post puberty which to my knowledge no other Russian lady has done, and TAT says a few nice things. Alina decides to take a break, and TAT says she didn't do much in her career like she isn't the most decorated Russian lady figure skater bringing the olympic and world titles to the country. She also says Alina won't return because I'm sure she knows more than Alina herself, though she seems to have no idea about Adelina who hasn't skated in many seasons. Add in some other "famous skaters" telling the media that Alina is just a money making pond.

And still people are all like "WhY iS aLiNa So StReSsEd AlL tHe TiMe".

Remember, Alina is probably one of the least controversial skaters. She's never said anything bad about any other skater, coach, choreographer, or official. She's never even pointed out her displeasure with scoring and calls like many others have done. She doesn't give any attitude when scores come up. Even when asked, she's never said anything offensive about anyone.

This would never fly in any other country.
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Looks like this post is quoted (almost copy-n-paste) here : https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/hardbassraz/2670844.html
:thumbsup:
 
Jontor said:
Sorry for missing Gubanova in that list! I don't know what happened. (Corrected it of course, she's 9th).

Tsibinova won the Russian Cup group stages with two wins in her events.
Shulskaya I know nothing about. She came from nowhere in the last RC and was wonderful, before that she was so so.

Maybe Spirals for Miles knows more about these girls??
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Not too much... Shulskaya is from Orenburg, so not Moscow or St. Petersburg, and Tsibinova is 15 (senior-eligible) and coached by Davydov as of this season.
 
OK, this seems to me rather off topic of Russian Ladies, but if anyone is interested in Marina Tsvetaeva I found this quite an interesting book on someone I knew virtually nothing about - quite a lot of it is previewable on google books - Marina Tsvetaeva: The Woman, Her World, and Her Poetry By Simon Karlinsky. It is well researched.

Meanwhile getting back to Russian ladies' skating, I am really intrigued to see how Samodurova fares. I find it staggering to think how far down the nationals list the reigning European champion may come.
 
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