2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Albus]

And I keep telling people that this is not the important season that's 2021-2022 and that's what she should be aiming for. I hope she's not shooting her wad this season if you know what I mean.

Ehm seems you keep telling your misunderstandings. She pretty much aims the championship of Russia first and foremost like every Russian skater or pair of skaters do. The 2021-2022 season doesn't matter now. So she and all the competitors are going to peak right here to show their maximum right now.

 

[Jontor]

I think unless you win nationals, nothing is guaranteed. And even last year, when Konstantinova "won" nationals out of the seniors, she was still left off the world team. And she had all the political backing in Russia. Potential and GPF results don't seem to have a heavy weight on selection. Gubanova for example didn't make the JW team after she was second at JGPF (and posted a new junior world record before Alina skated). And she didn't skip nationals. So whoever misses nationals probably will miss their chance. The only time I remember a skater missing nationals and still made the Euro/World/Olympic team was Evgenia, and that year it was clear that she and Alina were so far above the rest of the field. This year, the field is much more dense so I have a hard time seeing how a spot could be given to someone who does not participate. With the field, you have to prove yourself every single competition. Everyone's a JW/SW medalist. Being a female Russian singles skater is probably the worst thing in elite skating currently.

I agree with this assessment. Selection to Euros has always been the top 3 seniors at Nationals. The only exceptions is 2018 when Medvedeva got a spot although she wasn't at Nationals and the same thing back in 2006 with Slutskaya. If you don't medal at Euros, then there is a chance that RusFed will swap you for someone else at Worlds - like last year when Konstantinova lost her place to Medvedeva.
It's interesting though that GPF seems to not have any impact at all for the world team selection. Only Nationals.

 

[Alextrusova]

Not exactly the weak link is she? Anna he's kind of understated because she's not as beautiful a skater as aliona is and she's not as spectacular a jumper as Sasha is. But she is excellent at both.



She is vulnerable because Sasha never skates a clean free. Probably because her content is incredibly difficult and it's almost male skater difficult. I would like to see her tone her free skate down a little bit so she has a better chance to skate clean. And she is a bit handicapped not being allowed to do a quad in the short.

It should be fabulous crazy insane exciting and dramatic Nationals for the Russian ladies. And that's just in the warm ups!

Agree with what you’re saying. Sasha is unpredictable but I do think of all the 3As has best potential to score the highest.

 

[SkateSkates]

There is no “weak link” of the 3A’s no matter how people try to spin it.

 

[LiamForeman]

Christmas is celebrated later in Russia.

Christ is believed to have been born around May, anyway. I’m glad they are this week so I don’t get skating withdrawals!

 

[Mishaminion]

Is Alyona actually injured? :sad4:

 

[MissBeeFarm]

Is Alyona actually injured? :sad4:

I mean, a year ago there was a rumour Alyona was leaving Eteri, and that obviously didn't happen lol. For now, it's just that: a rumour. Let's wait and see...

 

[Scott512]

Ehm seems you keep telling your misunderstandings. She pretty much aims the championship of Russia first and foremost like every Russian skater or pair of skaters do. The 2021-2022 season doesn't matter now. So she and all the competitors are going to peak right here to show their maximum right now.

Exactly.

Agree with what you’re saying. Sasha is unpredictable but I do think of all the 3As has best potential to score the highest.

True.

There is no “weak link” of the 3A’s no matter how people try to spin it.

Truth.

Christ is believed to have been born around May, anyway. I’m glad they are this week so I don’t get skating withdrawals!

I was born in May!

Is Alyona actually injured? :sad4:

Nooooooo! But she may have a sore leg though.

 

[DizzyFrenchie]

Sasha is still growing as a lot of muscle and it will be interesting to see through puberty how much she expands physically. Not even the great eteri can stop mother nature. Sasha is doing great but I think she's doing too much and should tone it down a little bit so she can skate cleaner in her free skate without the falls. And I keep telling people that this is not the important season that's 2021-2022 and that's what she should be aiming for. I hope she's not shooting her wad this season if you know what I mean. As for Anna she is naturally reed thin and won't add muscle and weight the way Sasha will. This will be a great benefit to Aana in her career. Do some people aliona it's the best and most beautiful skater they've seen since Sasha Cohen in the mid-2000s. But she's got something going with one of her legs that's an issue. I hope that's just a rumor though and her health is good. But this sport is very tough on the body and especially the legs.

Well, the lack of amplitude in components scoring gives her very little incentive to do all that "boring job" of polishing her skating, rather than adding new jumps. She has a good glide though, which is an asset. Not Alena Kostornaia's or Alina Zagitova's of course. I am not under the impression she's exceding her physical capacities.
Anna Scherbakova had a broken leg too.
She's more balletic than the others, which I prefer, but less mature than Alena Kostornaia, even given their difference in age. So I wait patiently until next year when she should bloom, and I find it already so pleasant to watch her as she is. We are quite lucky to have so many wonders at the same time!

 

[Vladimir]

Kostornaya hasn't been seen going all out in training since GP Finals, neither on nor off the ice (like in these dance clips).

We'll have to wait and see in what condition she will appear in the Nationals, in full strength with full difficulty, nursing this injury with reduced difficulty or being pulled at the last moment, denying a reserve chance to compete?

Where does this information come from?
Dou you know anyone from Eteri's group?
Is it a true inside information or it's just your guess?

 

[Mishaminion]

Well, the lack of amplitude in components scoring gives her very little incentive to do all that "boring job" of polishing her skating, rather than adding new jumps. She has a good glide though, which is an asset. Not Alena Kostornaia's or Alina Zagitova's of course. I am not under the impression she's exceding her physical capacities.
Anna Scherbakova had a broken leg too.
She's more balletic than the others, which I prefer, but less mature than Alena Kostornaia, even given their difference in age. So I wait patiently until next year when she should bloom, and I find it already so pleasant to watch her as she is. We are quite lucky to have so many wonders at the same time!

Sasha works on more than just her jumps, her presentation and performance skills continue to improve. I do not understand where people get the idea that she doesn't try to improve all aspects of her skating because clearly she does.

 

[Mawwerg]

topic:Considering the fact Crystal team has in-house choreographer maybe it is time to hire in-house composer.

 

[nussnacker]

topic:Considering the fact Crystal team has in-house choreographer maybe it is time to hire in-house composer.

I think we can expect choreography from Sergey Rozanov in the near future, he was attending the Rostelecom, so it seems like slowly but surely, he’s earning the trust and getting more responsibility day by day.

 

[DizzyFrenchie]

Sasha works on more than just her jumps, her presentation and performance skills continue to improve. I do not understand where people get the idea that she doesn't try to improve all aspects of her skating because clearly she does.

I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I meant she didn't improve at all. From the single skaters who get too high components from the habit of giving component scores according to elements, I feel, both that she improved rather less than the others, and that she has lots of resource to improve. Of course I can be totally wrong. But it is this character that allows her to do such jumps and all!

 

[Scott512]

Well, the lack of amplitude in components scoring gives her very little incentive to do all that "boring job" of polishing her skating, rather than adding new jumps. She has a good glide though, which is an asset. Not Alena Kostornaia's or Alina Zagitova's of course. I am not under the impression she's exceding her physical capacities.
Anna Scherbakova had a broken leg too.
She's more balletic than the others, which I prefer, but less mature than Alena Kostornaia, even given their difference in age. So I wait patiently until next year when she should bloom, and I find it already so pleasant to watch her as she is. We are quite lucky to have so many wonders at the same time!

No question about it dizzy.

 

[Tolstoj]

topic:Considering the fact Crystal team has in-house choreographer maybe it is time to hire in-house composer.

I hope in the future we'll see even more effort put into choreography.

Not that Daniil is bad and like i said this whole season, i feel like this year the team has made a step up with the programs (except maybe Trusova, though it must be hard to do better on that case), we've seen some really cheap music cuts and cheap choreography in the past.

I've always wondered how much of Julia Lipnitskaya's sophisticated style was because of her and how much was it because of the choreographers (cause in the junior days up until 2012-2013 she wasn't really developed much artistically), and she had the privilege to work with some of the bests out there.

 

[Kerston]

Question. Do the Russian Federation send skaters at 4CC? If not can anyone tell me why? Thank you in advance

 

[Amei]

Question. Do the Russian Federation send skaters at 4CC? If not can anyone tell me why? Thank you in advance

No, Russian skaters go to Europeans - 4ccs was created as an equivalent to Europeans for non-European countries.

 

[concorde]

Question. Do the Russian Federation send skaters at 4CC? If not can anyone tell me why? Thank you in advance

4CC is intended to be the equivalent to Europeans. It is for non-European countries.

 

[colormyworld240]

1. ŝerbakova won the championship of Russia if you mean this by your strange word which is incorrect to name the championship of Russia.
2. All there were seniors.
3. What exactly political backing she has or had? I often see this nonsense, but only in English. Would you please illuminate us all what you know about Konstantinova that nobody who uses Russian knows? Is there some sort of fetish to create myths in english?
4. "Potential and GPF results don't seem to have a heavy weight on selection." Why should they have any weight? There are reglements and there isn't a single litera about gpf nor potential. What is potential even?

1) Konstantinova was the highest placed senior at senior nationals last year, as in she was first out of skaters who were eligible for worlds
2) Shcherbakova, Trusova, and Kostornaia were international juniors last season. I'm talking about senior nationals in the context of selection for Euros and Worlds, which are international competitions.
3) Everyone nows about Stasya's political backing, she has TAT's support, etc. This information actually is all over Russian forums, that's where it originated AFAIK.
4) I'm not saying they should have weight, I'm just stating when I've observed from previous seasons of following Russian skating.