I think Sasha has realised that she may NEEDED more individual time for perfecting her skills than Tut could give her. I guess she doesn't nessecarily WANTS extra time, but NEEDS it in order to have a stable 5quad program. Maybe those are the conclusions she draws after the recent inconsistent skates. She always complaints about not having enough warm up time for all the Quads in her program, so imagine the training hours it takes to stabilize them - and maybe that only works with induvidual time - which seems to be rare at Khrustalny.
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I don't think we speak the same. You can be a team's princess, being protected, prefered, given an extra time, as many teams do with their top skaters, but that doesn't provide you being the winner when it comes to the competition with other skaters. For me this attitude looks counterproductive, to be honest. After all, do you think that when Veronika Zhilina and Titova grow older, they will like to see that somebody else is the VIP? Treating everyone equally is not a crime, even though many talk about it as if it was.
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Not being a favorite equals being discarded to you? well then that's sad news to many skaters, since whoever's not the favorite is the one being neglected.
A coach who only has 1 skater as a priority then bound to treating other skaters as an afterthought, and I don't think that's professional no matter how you put it.
Sure it feels great for 1 student but then horrible for everyone else.
Sasha was never discarded by anyone and no one ever wished for her not to win, which I guess you're alluding to here.
If anything, Eteri was often blamed for wishing Sasha to win, like at 2018-2019 RusNats, when she slapped her thigh when Alexandra missed out the first place by mere hundreds of a point. And history has shown that no matter how much Eteri wants someone to win deep down inside, she will never let herself be unfair and gives everyone the best she can give.
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No you have definitely misunderstood. I am not talking about VIP treatment. I am saying she has the necessary skills and has made this choice because she knows she can be the top girl who comes first. Not just the top girl in her skating club. She knows she has the potential and has made this choice because she wants her coach to be on that same page and help her get there. As has previously been suggested I can’t imagine she is getting everything she wants or needs otherwise she wouldn’t leave.
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Sometimes a little comment in brackets says more about the character of the author than 1000 postings. It's just poor.(I remember times when Alexandra's parent's were influential people too, but that times are in distant past now or they must have lost their influence in a day and a half)
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Last season, apart of Alina, who in her own words, was taking an year off(and who btw, lost to total 2 non ET skaters ) if ET skaters lost, it was always to the other ET skaters.
Thinking that somebody else will prepare you better for competition doesn't seem like very logical to me, especially considering the past events.
) if ET skaters lost, it was always to the other ET skaters. Thinking that somebody else will prepare you better for competition doesn't seem like very logical to me, especially considering the past events.
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I agree, attacking family of under age girl because you hate her coach and then doing U Turn on her the second she leaves that coach is poor, you are right.
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Anyone of the 3A has the "necessary skills".
Also, the big difference is "getting everything someone needs" and "thinking of getting everything someone needs". Esp. when it comes to parents
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Well that’s not what I said, but again pick and choose what you want to from my comments. A coach who has one skater in each division as their priority is doing their job right. Your coach is meant to help you edge out your competition not also bolster your competition. I appreciate that you enjoy the team spirit of TT, but I don’t and nor do most coaches and skaters. It is illogical to think you could train three girls at the top level and not let two of them down every time they compete. I don’t understand why you would even argue with that? It’s a fact. There can only be one gold medalist.
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I of course wish this Supergirl well but I have great doubts about the team she is going to. They have never produced anyone other than Plushenkos six-year-old son.
First: Plushenko academy is 3 years and 1 month. Can you show me a coach, a club who produced a great champion from the zero? How many years did it take for Eteri to become a successful coach ?? Or BOrser?
Second: Plushenko has a National Novice Champion, Sofia Titova, she beat Eteri's pupil. And you can see there some more talented little skaters. And you don't forget about Artem Kovalyov.
Third: Sasha Plushenko is 7 y.o.
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Well, Edwin did not call her anything, he was just ruminating about what certain folks might think. None of Sasha's fans have called her anything like that.
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Anyone of the 3A has the "necessary skills".
Also, the big difference is "getting everything someone needs" and "thinking of getting everything someone needs". Esp. when it comes to parents
Well that is a matter of opinion and you are entitled to yours but you’re not the skater or her family. Nor have you trained with TT to have that sort of insight. So judge carefully the actions of this young girl. I think she is extremely strong of mind and that needs to be respected regardless of who you think is the best coach.
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I don't think you get it. It was not so long ago, when certain people blamed Eteri's team and parents of her skaters of having "connections" and "importance" (in a very negative way). It is also not a secret that the origin of those voices was somewhere around Plushenko himself. Now the story has changed and from important people with connections Sasha's parents were shifted among the poor people whose kid wasn't favoritized enough while some others probably were.
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So, we will probably no longer hear "Sasha is mindless jumping robot/machine". Well, at least some positive outcome. :agree:
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the whole post...
Well, well, well...is Plushenko coaching? Not only makes PR actions on ice? It shows how you creat hateful stories about him, and those stories will be riuned by the truth of witnesses..
I recommended every haters who read the Russians forums too many times that is not real source..:handw:
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Orser,for example, has Medvedeva and Kurakowa.
Mishin has Liza and Sonya.
Hamada has You and Rika.
Raf has Mariah and Marin.
Rukavtsin has many girls.
out of curiosity, who are 'most coaches' ?
It's only a fact if you think that making athlete win is job of a coach. It's not. Job of a coach is training athlete for competition. If athlete is as well prepared for competition as possible,then coach did his/her job. Ask Alena or Anna, if they think coach failed them at Russ Nats/Europeans, I am sure they will answer 'no' in heartbeat.
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I'm a Trusova fan, and definitely no offense to her, but surely Daniel's attention on Anna Shcherbakova couldn't be a reason? She doesn't care as much comparatively about choreography at all.
Multiple reasons could have led to this decision. Financially, being THE Evgeni Plushenko's top skater with favourable terms is a good offer (and we know Eteri operates under harsh financial terms, not saying it's bad but just a fact). Rozanov seems to be a favourite coach for a lot of the skaters, like I can see it looks like Alena has a great relationship with him too. Maybe Sasha prefers the added competition of Sambo 70, but for the juniors she was clearly well ahead there for her age range until these past two years.
As Sasha shouldn't be at her peak already, this is the perfect time to look closely at the theory of skaters become worse after leaving Sambo 70. I'm interested!
Multiple reasons could have led to this decision. Financially, being THE Evgeni Plushenko's top skater with favourable terms is a good offer (and we know Eteri operates under harsh financial terms, not saying it's bad but just a fact). Rozanov seems to be a favourite coach for a lot of the skaters, like I can see it looks like Alena has a great relationship with him too. Maybe Sasha prefers the added competition of Sambo 70, but for the juniors she was clearly well ahead there for her age range until these past two years.
As Sasha shouldn't be at her peak already, this is the perfect time to look closely at the theory of skaters become worse after leaving Sambo 70. I'm interested!
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It says a lot when that is used as some kind of a benchmark
Yess! Because Eteri is a genial coach but she couldn't make succeful skater from her, or she doesn't care about Sofia because she thought she isn't really talented. I mentioned her -I hope that is great succes for a 11. yo skater, you don't want to diminish it- because I just reflected to Scott512. Don't think about too much.
