2019-2020 Programs by Discipline

[Ionan]

Going through the updated bios of those skating this week in Junior GP, I noticed the RD music choice for Portesi Peroni/Chrastecky:

Waltz: Ouverture (from "The Artist") by Ludovic Bource
Quickstep: George Valentin (from "The Artist") by Ludovic Bource
Slow Fox: Pennies from Heaven
Swing: Peppy and George (from "The Artist") by Ludovic Bource

Can The Artist really qualify as Musical?

It's literally a silent movie. If The Artist is allowed to qualify as a musical, then literally any movie score should also be eligible. And the one song they chose with words, is not even sung in the movie itself, but rather played over the credits.

 

[TontoK]

It's literally a silent movie. If The Artist is allowed to qualify as a musical, then literally any movie score should also be eligible. And the one song they chose with words, is not even sung in the movie itself, but rather played over the credits.

I'm all about artistic freedom and giving the athletes some leeway, but I'm forced to agree with you here.

If this complies with the requirement, then by extension, any song sung in any movie should qualify. Surely somewhere, someone has sung "Happy Birthday to You" in a film. And, for that matter, what qualifies as a film? Do we include home movies?

 

[Colonel Green]

The Artist and The Great Gatsby (the latter being used by multiple teams) are the two major "not a musical" choices that I've seen so far. It's going to be interesting what happens with the teams using the latter.

 

[friedbanana]

A bit late to the game, but I am very, very excited for Fear/Gibson's Vogue free dance!

 

[TallyT]

It's literally a silent movie. If The Artist is allowed to qualify as a musical, then literally any movie score should also be eligible. And the one song they chose with words, is not even sung in the movie itself, but rather played over the credits.

Made me think of the music of Robert Israel, wonderful wonderful music for DVD releases of great silent films...

https://www.robertisraelmusic.com/recordings

 

[Andrea82]

The Artist and The Great Gatsby (the latter being used by multiple teams) are the two major "not a musical" choices that I've seen so far. It's going to be interesting what happens with the teams using the latter.

Given the PP/C got away with The Artist today (with no judge calling for music requirements violation), I would assume GG won't be a problem either.

 

[dorispulaski]

That's now. Wait for their second or third event. That is when the music vio!ations come popping out, generally.

 

[SnowWhite]

The Artist and The Great Gatsby (the latter being used by multiple teams) are the two major "not a musical" choices that I've seen so far. It's going to be interesting what happens with the teams using the latter.

What about "The Mask"?

 

[Ice Dance]

That's now. Wait for their second or third event. That is when the music vio!ations come popping out, generally.

Yes, I think let's wait & see. I mean, you can't expect all the judges to know every movie in every country & immediately identify a selection as not a musical. But you can expect the discussion to be held. (And, I would think, coaches of other teams to protest). I remember when Chock & Bates changed their waltz, it was after a very lengthy conversation by the panel after their first Challenger event. Often teams get feedback from early events that deductions are possible, and those teams change their programs prior to the next event. Of course, we're not talking about teams in the hunt for medals here. These junior teams could decide to swallow a deduction rather than change programs at this stage. But the Browns didn't last season. They made the required change. I still think it's likely this discussion gets held. (And the odds of the rules being ignored for teams that have hardware on the line is probably zilch).

Also, I believe the music rules are a bit different for the juniors. I read somewhere that they can use a second piece that is not from a musical, I think for the pattern portion? I don't see how that would validate the selections discussed above, but I did want to mention it as Ted didn't today.

 

[dorispulaski]

This season's requirements for juniors:

Music: Musicals, Operetta, Broadway

Rhythms: ALL selected music should be recognized as from one of the following Rhythms: Quickstep, Blues, March, Polka, Foxtrot, Swing, Charleston, Waltz. The number of rhythms is not restricted. The selected music may be from the same or different Musicals and/or Operettas

https://www.ice-dance.com/site/reference/rhythm-dances/

If they are right, all the music must be from Operettas and Musicals

 

[ice coverage]

… BTW, also of note from Communication No. 2257 (underlining not added; I think it signifies new language):

… Note: For the Tea-Time Foxtrot and the required Foxtrot rhythm/tempo (108 bpm), Ballroom music selections in the style of Foxtrot are allowed even when not from a musical and/or operetta.​

… Also, I believe the music rules are a bit different for the juniors. I read somewhere that they can use a second piece that is not from a musical, I think for the pattern portion? I don't see how that would validate the selections discussed above, but I did want to mention it as Ted didn't today.

What Ice Dance said is correct, per p. 32 of ISU Communication No. 2257, which originally was published at the end of May.

See also the bottom of p. 1 of ISU's "Additional Questions & Answers #1", published on Jun 28:

For the Tea-Time Foxtrot and the required Foxtrot rhythm/tempo (108 bpm), Ballroom music selections in the style of Foxtrot are allowed even when not from a musical and/or operetta.

https://isu.org/figure-skating/rule...1/21513-additional-questions-answers-1-1/file​

 

[Ice Dance]

See below.

 

[Ice Dance]

What Ice Dance said is correct, per p. 32 of ISU Communication No. 2257, which originally was published at the end of May.

See also the bottom of p. 1 of ISU's "Additional Questions & Answers #1", published on Jun 28:

For the Tea-Time Foxtrot and the required Foxtrot rhythm/tempo (108 bpm), Ballroom music selections in the style of Foxtrot are allowed even when not from a musical and/or operetta.

https://isu.org/figure-skating/rule...1/21513-additional-questions-answers-1-1/file​

Thank you, ice coverage! The document I found the other day from USFSA didn't include this either; and I was so dreading searching through the many-page ISU handbook/documents in a hopeless attempt to find it!

 

[dorispulaski]

Me too! Thank you Ice coverage.

 

[RemyRose]

Anastasia Gubanova
SP: "I'll Take Care Of You" performed by Beth Hart and Joe Bonamassa
FP: "Couple in a Cafe" from 17 Moments of Spring by Mikael Tariverdiev
https://rsport.ria.ru/20190824/1557865830.html

 

[rabidline]

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
SP: Oblivion by Astor Piazzolla
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1gOdNyDtZF/?igshid=wb4orku0w1jx

 

[BravesSkateFan]

Alexa's instagram story says they've changed their SP to "Lover" By Taylor Swift. https://www.instagram.com/stories/alexa_knierim/

 

[SnowWhite]

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
SP: Oblivion by Astor Piazzolla
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1gOdNyDtZF/?igshid=wb4orku0w1jx

She changed it from Florence + The Machine?

 

[RemyRose]

She changed it from Florence + The Machine?

Apparently so. And will try to keep the original choreography choreographed for "Drumming Song."

 

[el henry]

Alexa's instagram story says they've changed their SP to "Lover" By Taylor Swift. https://www.instagram.com/stories/alexa_knierim/

Evidently this post by Alexa was a joke. Which was not obvious to me at all.

https://twitter.com/alexa_knierim/status/1165349382184722434