2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Scott512]

What professor did you mean? Mishin? For God's sake he is going to be 81 then. I don't send him to the retirement but let's be realistic

Of course I meant Mishin. He isn't going anywhere believe it or not. Lol. Who is going to tell him to retire? No one.

 

[Scott512]

This is crazy but I know it costs a lot to break a contract and we don’t know the clauses.

There is still a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty that's about what was really old and if it was a contract why was it with the wife and not plushie himself?

Anyway aliona is back at sambo-70 which she never technically left anyway and his training again.

 

[Vilord]

Of course I meant Mishin. He isn't going anywhere believe it or not. Lol. Who is going to tell him to retire? No one.

While I dont think Mishin is going to retire tomorrow or even in the next couple of seasons we have to be realistic he is going to have to retire at some point and at 81 years old its probably not that many years away. I obviously dont know how hes feeling but if I where to guess my guess is that a retirement is coming in the next five to ten years.

 

[Lechat]

There is still a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty that's about what was really old and if it was a contract why was it with the wife and not plushie himself?

Anyway aliona is back at sambo-70 which she never technically left anyway and his training again.

The fact she left after the windows saves her today.

 

[TripleAxelQueens3]

Hmm, I don't think so. Besides, Aliona's 3A was not just this valuable element that brought extra points. As performed by Aliona, It became the eighth wonder of the world. The height and distance traveled were awe-inspiring! I haven't seen such a jump in men.

No, there was one skater whose axel was just as spectacular - Robin Cousins. https://youtu.be/MyNfo9JU9-s?t=133

Well yes, her 3A was great but she had one of the best 3F+3Ts as well. It’s not like Alyona depended solely on one good jump to get where she is. I personally know that tons of fans started liking her in her first junior season where she wasn’t going for any 3A. Maybe if she doesn’t get 3A she won’t be cemented as “the greatest” but just artistically speaking i think all she needs is work on stamina and not falling out of twizzles or forgetting choreo.

 

[Lechat]

I don't know if I just have the strangest opinions ever but I don't even like that SP for Alyona that much either. Again, I really liked it when she was a junior, but I think the small choreographic changes and dress change made the program a lot less enjoyable? I thought it was the free skate where she really shined.

And yes, I agree that the lack of transitions into and out of her jumps for the FS was what made most of it (barring the step sequence) a bit forgettable but given the circumstances I expected they were going to keep it for Olympic season and work on it more. I think it had good potential after all, it was just too empty. And I do think that part of what makes Alyona such a great skater is her skating skills and the ease of her skating, especially in transitions. However, that doesn't automatically mean that any program with a ton of transitions works for me. It still has to match the music, which is where some of the jam-packed choreography falls short.

And I think Alyona still has that chance so long as she works for it. I don't even think the 3A is necessary, just more work on stamina and steps will already make her one of the most artistic skaters of this era. Of course if she gets the 3A again, she'll probably become one of the greats. To me she already is one of the greats though. I don't need to see Worlds medals or Olympic medals to know that the 3A are three of the greatest skaters to ever grace the sport.

The 3A is her paid jump. To be honest, she’s the JPF and Europeans champion thanks to this jump. She could medal without it but winning means having a 3A or a quad.

Now with Kami, Dasha and Maia in the picture for the next olympics, I can’t see her competitive without her 3A back.

 

[Amei]

There is still a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty that's about what was really old and if it was a contract why was it with the wife and not plushie himself?

Anyway aliona is back at sambo-70 which she never technically left anyway and his training again.

My assumption based on what's been said is Yana Plushenko handles the legal aspects of the academy

 

[Lechat]

My assumption based on what's been said is Yana Plushenko handles the legal aspects of the academy

right, plushy is not the type to take care about administrative affairs

 

[TripleAxelQueens3]

The 3A is her paid jump. To be honest, she’s the JPF and Europeans champion thanks to this jump. She could medal without it but winning means having a 3A or a quad.

Now with Kami, Dasha and Maia in the picture for the next olympics, I can’t see her competitive without her 3A back.

Well of course I meant she doesn’t need 3A to be one of the artistic greats. If she wants to be competitive next season she needs to get back in 19/20 form.

 

[[email protected]]

Is it true that Aliona will have to pay 41 million ruble as a fine?

What? That's about 1000 average monthly salaries in Russia.

 

[Lechat]

What? That's about 1000 average monthly salaries in Russia.

they must have money but yeah, it’s a huge amont for people who earn the minimum

 

[Fried]

Is it true that Aliona will have to pay 410 million ruble as a fine?

 

[[email protected]]

they must have money but yeah, it’s a huge amont for people who earn the minimum

No, it's a huge amount for anyone but dollar multi millionaires. Selling apartment won't be enough to cover this debt. I think that it's a hoax. Realistically he can ask for something like 20-30 times less. It will still be an ordeal for an everyday Russian family. But at least if they accept this debt, they can figure out something. 41 million rubles is just an absurd amount. They could say 1 billion dollars. It would be the same.

 

[Skatesocs]

I think that it's a hoax.

It's from TSL...

 

[[email protected]]

It's from TSL...

then the hoax it is.

 

[Scott512]

The fact she left after the windows saves her today.

You mean it's easier for her to go back to sambo-70 because she never officially left there during the transfer window.

 

[Scott512]

Is it true that Aliona will have to pay 410 million ruble as a fine?

No. It was her mother remember?

 

[Lechat]

You mean it's easier for her to go back to sambo-70 because she never officially left there during the transfer window.

Yeah if Angel of Plushenko was her club, she certainly has to wait the period transfert

 

[Lechat]

No. It was her mother remember?

Her or her mother it’s the same. Her family has a debt but maybe they could handle it or they found a solution.

 

[chasingneverland]

No. It was her mother remember?

That's one and the same as far as Aliona's financial situation is concerned. Or who do you suppose pays for Aliona's clothes, food, etc?