It was 2019 Russian Cup Stage 3 4T<< (avg.GOE mark -3.14).
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1920/3etap/opMC__Scores.pdf
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Biggest talent of the next quad is Sofia Akatieva. In every category.
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Um, she excessively pre-rotates her flip and lutz. I do not think so.
Eteri should finally start taking only girls with good technique. I mean... It is time...
Veronika Zhilina has textbook technique and Elizaveta Berestovskaya very good technique. So... No Akatieva. Please.
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I think as an overall she is the most impressive. But not in every category. On the contrary I'd say she's "pretty great" at everything but not "exceptional" in any, except for jumping difficulty, there I'd say she's probably first (most consistent with her quads thus far, pretty good 3As). If Zhilina gets consistent then I'd say Zhilina is the best in that category. Samodelkina is second thus far, but very close to Akatieva.
In terms of spins, Zhilina and Petrosyan both are better (if we go younger, I'd say Dzepka is up there too).
In terms of SS, the best are Melkumova, Krivonosova and Dzepka, but out of older the ones, Osokina, Muravyeva and Samodelkina are the best (Akatieva is up there too, I just don't find her as fast as the rest and I think her step sequences lacks a bit of power and flow. But I do see a lot of potential in her SS, her edges are pretty good).
In terms of jump technique or jump aesthetics, Zhilina is definitely the victor, with Akatieva second (her 3As are actually very impressive).
In terms of dedication to performing, Berestovskaya and Dzepka are the best IMO.
In terms of maturity, I personally find Samodelkina and Muravyeva to be more mature.
In terms of musicality, I think Petrosyan, Osokina, Melkumova and Dzepka are better as well.
But the thing is Akatieva is up there in all those categories, maybe I wouldn't say she's the "best" but she's up there. With everyone else they have one bulging weak point... so I agree that she is probably the best out of those skaters so far. (My personal favorites are Samodelkina, Muravyeva, Dzepka and Melkumova... if you couldn't tell). But, if (and that's a big if) Zhilina gets her jumps consistent and improves a bit in artistry (I think she has potential to be good in SS and artistry) I think she's the one that's most impressive. I mean just look at her 3A out of super difficult transitions, or her 3A out of a standstill, or her 2A without hands, or her textbook 4Lz or her amazing spins and flexibility.
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Of Corona virus or Anna's Lutz discussion?
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Coaching. It is written he was in singles and in pairs.
He is Yulia's common law husband. And they have a daughter who looks exactly like Yulia. Her name is Katalina. They all are going to live in one of the PA cottages. Or maybe they are already living there. There are rumours that Alyona is already living in her PA cottage.
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Have you ever considered that pre-rotating Lutz / Flip might not be the only thing that matters in skating? For example, Berestovskaya just isn't even close... And she pre-rotates her 4T much harder, it's like 270 degrees.
Akatieva's main weakness if you could call it one is her lack of flexibility and spins, especially in comparison to someone such as Veronika Zhilina.
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What offhand insult at the professor?
You can like Aliona a lot and be critical at the same time. Changing her free skate now seems like a panic move. I hope it works out.
It's been a tough year for Aliona. She left the best coach in the world so that protection is gone. Aliona lost her phenomenal triple axel because of the pandemic. Then she caught Corona virus and missed nationals.
I sure hope AK gets her form back and makes the world's team. But it's certainly up for grabs between her big Liza and maybe even little Liza. The Russian cup final will be very interesting and probably dramatic.
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Common law is not the same thing. I certainly only wish them well.
They have an adorable baby.
Does Elena Illnyk get a cottage? She has a one year old son.
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Choreography I think, he did Sofia Sarnovskaya the Younger's FS. She won silver at a recent competition
This comment right here - although it was more a direct insult tbh:
Incidentally there's no evidence whatsoever that this is what will happen. People just see the name "Plushenko" and assume the absolute worst. I recall Shae-Lynn complained about Mishin messing around with her choreo yet she hasn't made such a statement regarding Aliona as far as I know. So basically, once again, it's fine to accuse this particular coach of whatever you like and if someone calls you out on it, they're the bad guy who needs to take a chill pill.
A move that so many were calling for...or are they afraid Aliona will get a fabulous program that they won't be able to blame her coaching team for?
Not sure why, there's always something to complain about with that coaching team
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It is not the only thing of course. I check all the jumps.
Hmm... About her quad. Toe loop is with 180 degrees pre-rotation, so If her quad toe loop is with 270 degrees pre-rotation - it means 90 degrees more pre-rotation. With flip and lutz is different because Yuna and Boyang pre-rotate around 45 degrees and some of the skaters pre-rotate around 180 or 220 degrees which is a lot worse - it means at least 135 degrees more pre-rotation or even 175 degrees more pre-rotation... How much Anna pre-rotates her flip and lutz?
I would not call the lack of flexibility a weakness. This is not gymnastics.
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No it's not that bad with plushy and things will get better. Next season is the Olympic season and a lot will be at stake it should be dramatic and hopefully fun. The focused won't just be on plushy next season it will be on the skaters.Choreography I think, he did Sofia Sarnovskaya the Younger's FS. She won silver at a recent competition
This comment right here - although it was more a direct insult tbh:
Incidentally there's no evidence whatsoever that this is what will happen. People just see the name "Plushenko" and assume the absolute worst. I recall Shae-Lynn complained about Mishin messing around with her choreo yet she hasn't made such a statement regarding Aliona as far as I know. So basically, once again, it's fine to accuse this particular coach of whatever you like and if someone calls you out on it, they're the bad guy who needs to take a chill pill.
A move that so many were calling for...or are they afraid Aliona will get a fabulous program that they won't be able to blame her coaching team for?
Not sure why, there's always something to complain about with that coaching team
The focus in the next year or 2 will certainly be on sasha alyona and Veronika. The sky is the limit for all 3 especially if Aliona gets her triple axel back. I believe she can make any program look really good. No question this girl has lost her confidence. A lot has happened to her now it's time for her to save her season.
AK skating well in the team event and then the cup final would help a lot and get the attention back on her instead of changing her free skate or changing coaches or catching covid. I think she's had some time to reflect and recover from Corona virus. That would shake anybody up.
Yes that was a snide remark someone made about plushy and his former coach and the choreography.
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In Russia this seems to be popular. I mean, one very famous Russian director said once in one interview about his former loves:"All of my 3 wives - my first official wife and then my two common law wives - I met all of them at work..."
Haven't heard about cottages for Elena. But Sergei Polunin will be great addition for PA:
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Plushy gonna run out of money!
Whenever I see Elena I wish she was still dancing. She retired so young it's hard to believe.
Where is the main PA rink out in the woods where these cottages are?
Well, right after Russian Nationals they were kind of the same thing!
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Incidentally there's no evidence whatsoever that this is what will happen. People just see the name "Plushenko" and assume the absolute worst.
Not sure why, there's always something to complain about with that coaching team
Moose, everytime you overreact to any comments made about Plush, Ichatdelune is forced to eat an extra serving of carbs!
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Hmpf maybe so, but I wasn't the one who used the term "butchering the choreo." Considering we haven't even seen said choreo don't you think that was rather inflammatory?Moose, everytime you overreact to any comments made about Plush, Ichatdelune is forced to eat an extra serving of carbs!
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