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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

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Communication No. 2332 excerpt:

Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating season 2020/21Following the cancellation of the first two Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Events that were to have been held in Canada and Slovak Republic, the Council approved the application from Riga / LAT to host a Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Event. The revised ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series will therefore be as follows:
1st event September 9-12, 2020 Budapest / HUN
2nd event September 16-19, 2020 Yokohama / JPN
3rd event (incl. Pair Skating) September 23-26, 2020 Ostrava / CZE
4th event (incl. Pair Skating) Sept. 30-Oct. 3, 2020 Tashkent / UZB
5th event October 7-10, 2020 Ljubljana / SLO
6th event (incl. Pair Skating) October 14-17, 2020 Riga / LAT

A further update will be given after the Council meeting to be held on July 6, 2020

https://www.isu.org/inside-isu/isu-communications/communications/24380-isu-communication-2332/file

Also :yahoo:


With only six events, I wonder how that changes the JGP makeup for the Russian ladies (if, of course, the assignments still stand and don't need to be cancelled, and if the athletes are able to travel internationally by then).

My guess is that Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Samodelkina, Petrosyan, and Frolova each receive two assignments. If Frolova doesn't get two spots, though, I'd imagine the other would go to Muravyeva :think:.
 
With only six events, I wonder how that changes the JGP makeup for the Russian ladies (if, of course, the assignments still stand and don't need to be cancelled, and if the athletes are able to travel internationally by then).

My guess is that Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Samodelkina, Petrosyan, and Frolova each receive two assignments. If Frolova doesn't get two spots, though, I'd imagine the other would go to Muravyeva :think:.

I agree with your layout, but I'm wondering if maybe they'll consider amending the rules to allow some events to have 3 competitors from countries that earned the maximum spots? It doesn't seem out of the question considering senior GPs allow three competitors per country, and home JGPs will sometimes have three from the host country.
 
Has the ISU released a date for GP and JGP assignments yet? I’m just curious as they approved both the junior and senior events now...

I think a Grand Prix circuit without spectators could work, but social distancing must somehow be maintained between athletes, coaches, judges, and media if the pandemic is still having a large impact in some parts of the world in the autumn
 
Good news for Russian ladies - ISU decided to revert their last decision on jump points.



So, 3Lz is back to 5.9; 4Lz to 11.5; 4Lo - 10.5.

Yay! This is great news!
I never did see the logic of lowering the Lutz. It is clearly the most difficult jump.
 
Has the ISU released a date for GP and JGP assignments yet? I’m just curious as they approved both the junior and senior events now...

I think a Grand Prix circuit without spectators could work, but social distancing must somehow be maintained between athletes, coaches, judges, and media if the pandemic is still having a large impact in some parts of the world in the autumn

JGP assignments usually start getting announced about a month before the first event, so I'd guess sometime around August 9 for those.
 
:yahoo:

(BTW "q" experiment is gone as well :hap93:)

Although I think this would have been an interesting addition, it seemed too complicated/unfair to enforce equally. I wonder if they’ll come up with a slightly simpler, different rule in the future?
 
Although I think this would have been an interesting addition, it seemed too complicated/unfair to enforce equally. I wonder if they’ll come up with a slightly simpler, different rule in the future?

Until they come up with some type of technology like a chip or something that can be put in/on a skater's boot that can measure a skater's position for a jump for everything how 'pre-rotated' a jump is or the angle of the blade, there's always going to be a level of inability to enforce rules completely fair all the time. For instance Shcherbakova, she picks into her jumps and rotates so fast that I can't notice her pre-rotation until the jump is put into slow-motion.

I think the most uncomplicated "rule" would be for the highest value jumping pass a skater does in the SP goes under automatic review, and in the FS the top 3 highest value jumping passes go under automatic review. It would be unilateral across all skaters so everything going into the review is "fair" and it would be hard to hide any bias for a particular skater/country/coach, so it should also help eradicate out judges that do hold bias' for some reason. If there is a concern about time, then perhaps for larger competitions like Europeans, Four Continents and Worlds they could change the FS to be based on warm-up groups, the last 2 groups (where the podium is usually determined) get 3 highest jumping passes automatically reviewed, everyone else gets 2.
 
It's JGP, empty stands is the most common audience
I see no problem at all, wear masks and keep the distance

I see a big problem because this virus is not going away anywhere in the world. It always comes back. I wish it was as easy as just wearing a mask and keeping your distance and cleaning your hands, but that's not getting it done.

As for figure skating I hope to have a season and you make a good point about how in the Juniors and I think even the Challenger events there aren't a lot of fans there. Grand Prix events is a different story and these top skaters will not like skating in front of no fans
 
Until they come up with some type of technology like a chip or something that can be put in/on a skater's boot that can measure a skater's position for a jump for everything how 'pre-rotated' a jump is or the angle of the blade, there's always going to be a level of inability to enforce rules completely fair all the time. For instance Shcherbakova, she picks into her jumps and rotates so fast that I can't notice her pre-rotation until the jump is put into slow-motion.

I think the most uncomplicated "rule" would be for the highest value jumping pass a skater does in the SP goes under automatic review, and in the FS the top 3 highest value jumping passes go under automatic review. It would be unilateral across all skaters so everything going into the review is "fair" and it would be hard to hide any bias for a particular skater/country/coach, so it should also help eradicate out judges that do hold bias' for some reason. If there is a concern about time, then perhaps for larger competitions like Europeans, Four Continents and Worlds they could change the FS to be based on warm-up groups, the last 2 groups (where the podium is usually determined) get 3 highest jumping passes automatically reviewed, everyone else gets 2.

That’s interesting. Maybe, there should a separated pannel of judges just to analyze the jumps in slow-motion. As hard as it can be, cameras should be positioned in a way that all jumps could be recorded for this slow-motion analysis.


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Since there are now 6 JGP events, wish they would allow 3 skaters per country like for the GP. I'm not sure about the logistical side of that though.

Also yay on the suspension of the (yet again) stupid rules!
 
With only six events, I wonder how that changes the JGP makeup for the Russian ladies (if, of course, the assignments still stand and don't need to be cancelled, and if the athletes are able to travel internationally by then).

My guess is that Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Samodelkina, Petrosyan, and Frolova each receive two assignments. If Frolova doesn't get two spots, though, I'd imagine the other would go to Muravyeva :think:.

I think it will eventually come down to their test skate performances.
 
It will depend on not just the test skates, but also their placements at their first events. Last year was a little different where skaters who “only” won bronze at their first event were assigned a second, due to Tarusina and Kanysheva’s injuries and eventual retirement. I don’t think the Fed will make that mistake again and will assign more alternates just in case. By the end of the series there were literally no options for replacement left. The previous season, you needed a silver medal to get a 2nd assignment (see: Sinitsina and Vasilieva with bronzes only getting 1). The season before that (17/18) you needed to WIN to get a 2nd assignment (poor Gulyakova with her silver medal), but that also had to do with some of the girls assigned in the first place not even medaling at their events (Gubanova, Fedichkina).
 
Yay! This is great news!
I never did see the logic of lowering the Lutz. It is clearly the most difficult jump.

Agreed. I thought changing the value of the jumps to the same thing was a total cop out by the judges and the creators of the system. It would have been unfair to the skaters who are capable of executing both jumps. I hope they don't try to re-introduce this rule at a later time...
 
I think it will eventually come down to their test skate performances.
I don't think test skates mean much this year, there is not so many substitutes. There is no strong enough and age eligible skaters besides Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Samodelkina, Petrosyan, Frolova, Muravyova and Osokina.
 
I don't think test skates mean much this year, there is not so many substitutes. There is no strong enough and age eligible skaters besides Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Samodelkina, Petrosyan, Frolova, Muravyova and Osokina.

True, I meant it more in a sense if that they will have to choose from those girls, for example Frolova might lose her spots to Muravyova, if the latter does well on TS, and the former doesn’t. I don’t think leaders really have a lot to worry about, like Kamila or Daria, (maybe Maiia too), but others still need to show a good performance.
 
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