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yes, before Sochi. I remember
2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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It seems that the cases in Moscow are going up, so they're closing schools for 2 weeks starting on October 5th. (source)
I wonder if this will affect the decision to have an audience at the Russian Cup.
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I just checked. The curve has recently been rising sharply. The new infections per day are already reaching the April level. Doesn't look good at all.
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i just hope no one loses out on more training time than they have. it would be devastating.
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Yes and they lowered the number of tickets compared to Test Skates. Seems like they want to go forward with it.. we'll see.
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I'm watching every day. The infections raised the last 10 days . I no wonder. They didn't use masks on the competition for example as we could see it.. But I don't believe they are going to close Moscow again.
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Do you know if this includes sports schools/figure skating clubs, or just regular academic schools?
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No idea
They know him as an athlete. It tells everything. As I said the Japaneses and Chineses wanted him after Sochi. The Chineses didn't wait for the games to end.
The new Plushenko interview in english
Evgeni Plushenko: “There will be more transfers, and big ones”
Evgeni Plushenko about scandals in Russian figure skating, publishing of Zagitova's private conversations and rumours about Rika Kihira joining his school.fs-gossips.com
I wonder if Nini Xy An might try with Plushy-Rozanov after getting rejected by Eteri.
I love your insights and input on the jump technique Skatesocs. But after all, it's what the judges says that matter.The thing I don't get with the "leg wrap aesthetic" discussion is that people ignore it's actually making the jump harder (since people always cite Midori Ito, or now Kostornaia gets it), because it allows them to jump bigger, and big jumps are harder to control
A real leg wrap might be seen in the jumps of Yukari Nakano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJ3iWH1GQw and it usually happens because the way you snap into rotation position (yes, rotation position, not "air position") is lazy.
I also saw someone criticising Boyang Jin's head position in the 4Lz in the way he rotates lol and why it didn't deserve huge GOE on this website. It gives him the most stable axis of them all, but that apparently matters a lot less because you don't like the way his head looks.
I miss a constructive discussion about skaters with not the best technique, but they get the job done! They get the points, maybe not the best GOE, but they are doing IT!
What we should be discussing is what the judges think - and analyze that. After all, they are giving out the points.
I am tired of opinions that certain skaters are overscored because of "bad" technique. That's not the game here, the game is to get the points, and if I could do it with an "ugly" jump - so be it.
These quad/3A girls get hammered all the time for their "cheated" jumps with prerotations, full-blade take-offs, wrong edges etc etc. And I think it's unfair. It's no their fault. They are just playing the game. And if they are getting the points - then why change anything...
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I must say I don't really understand all this anti-Plushenko narrative here. I am not his fan and I am not his anti-fan but he's just a household name for this sport. In countries where FS is way less popular than in Russia or Japan (which means most of the world), Zagitova, Medvedeva, Trusova or Kostornaya, not to mention Shcherbakova or Valiyeva, no matter how we do like them, they mean nothing to the general public. Outside of FS fandom, nobody knows who they are. Plushenko, on the other hand, has been around long enough and made himself recognizable enough to have everyone know he was a great skater. It is just a name that rings a bell even if you are not into this sport at all. As for now, still just a different league. Yes, of course, he is young as a coach but it is obvious that his starting point is going to be very different from someone generally unknown and starting from a scratch, like Eteri was. It is not necessarily his money that draws attention and trainees to him but his fame. His name. His life achievements. That's enough. Just like Sasha said, you might suspect he knows a thing or two about jumping quads, for example. If he's able to provide his athletes with better training coditions than other clubs, well, good for him and good for them. I just don't get this negativity. And please do not try to explain it to me. I know the narrative, I just don't get it. If you had a chance to learn guitar playing from Eric Clapton or from a very accomplished guitar teacher at a top musical school, wouldn't you be at least tempted to give Eric a try? Even if he's not that known as a teacher?They know him as an athlete. It tells everything. As I said the Japaneses and Chineses wanted him after Sochi. The Chineses didn't wait for the games to end.
The new Plushenko interview in english
Evgeni Plushenko: “There will be more transfers, and big ones”
Evgeni Plushenko about scandals in Russian figure skating, publishing of Zagitova's private conversations and rumours about Rika Kihira joining his school.fs-gossips.com
Considering they let the National team setup training camps in May I would bet they'd give some level of concession for those athletes at least.
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Anti-Plushenko narrative?
How is questioning his coaching skills being anti?Anyway, the argument that just because he was a great skater, he automatically will be a great coach has no real basis.
How many of the top skating coaches around the world have been at the top in their own careers as skaters? Few.
Being a succesful athlete doesn't automatically make you a succesful coach.
In Plushenko's case, it can't be denied that having all these financial resources and connections have, in many ways, made his path as a coach easier, as he has a good selling point for athletes and coaches to join his Academy, in the abscence of significant results or a good track record as coach, which he would need if he weren't as rich and famous.
With the skaters he has and the ones he claims are coming, he has put lots of pressure on himself to prove better than average results right away, but I suppose he's well aware of that.
Btw, my country is so removed from FS that I doubt I could find someone who has even heard the name Plushenko these days. For example, I became interested in the sport not too long ago and I don't think I had heard about him before that.
Actually, I have to confess...what I know about him even now is just based on what I've read and what others have said about him in online fs communities or social media, but I haven't even watched his famous programs yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFGHFA0LsfMAnti-Plushenko narrative?
Anyway, the argument that just because he was a great skater, he automatically will be a great coach has no real basis.
How many of the top skating coaches around the world have been at the top in their own careers as skaters? Few.
Being a succesful athlete doesn't automatically make you a succesful coach.
In Plushenko's case, it can't be denied that having all these financial resources and connections have, in many ways, made his path as a coach easier, as he has a good selling point for athletes and coaches to join his Academy, in the abscence of significant results or a good track record as coach, which he would need if he weren't as rich and famous.
With the skaters he has and the ones he claims are coming, he has put lots of pressure on himself to prove better than average results right away, but I suppose he's well aware of that.
Btw, my country is so removed from FS that I doubt I could find someone who has even heard the name Plushenko these days. For example, I became interested in the sport not too long ago and I don't think I had heard about him before that.
Actually, I have to confess...what I know about him even now is just based on what I've read and what others have said about him in online fs communities or social media, but I haven't even watched his famous programs yet.
Thanks, but I see that my attempt to be more precise in the post you quoted led me to contradict what I'd said earlier.
Specifically here:
I just should have left it at "the way you snap into rotation is lazy". Otherwise it looks like I'm differentiating between what Kostornaia/Ito do as part of air position but what Nakano does as part of something different known as rotation position. When I really just wanted to compare them on the same thing, and meant that Kostornaia/Ito keep their position less tight on purpose, but Nakano's is due to flawed technique.
I usually tend to use "air position" for something different than the way someone rotates, like the straightness of body position in the air, the stability of the axis, etc., which is where that bit of mix-up came from. I've edited my post now though.
(Lol and the reason for *this* post is that I get annoyed when people contradict themselves and mix things up, so I hate to see myself doing that).
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Kings and Queens of Ice, in Bucharest, on October 7th
If you haven’t got a ticket yet, this might be an excellent moment to buy one. Because those four editions of „Kings on Ice” organized in Bucharest by Amphitrion – in 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 – have been, by far, one of the most emotional experiences of my life as a figure skating fan; and a proof
www.insideskating.net
Dacă nu știi cine este Evgheni, atunci nu ai dreptul să vorbești despre el! În toată Europa și Asia, Evgheni a avut spectacole și a fost cap de afiș. Afise cu el au fost postate peste tot. Zeci de mii de spectatori au venit să-l vadă. Sorry for OFFTOPIC
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Btw, my country is so removed from FS that I doubt I could find someone who has even heard the name Plushenko these days. For example, I became interested in the sport not too long ago and I don't think I had heard about him before that.
Actually, I have to confess...what I know about him even now is just based on what I've read and what others have said about him in online fs communities or social media, but I haven't even watched his famous programs yet.
www.insideskating.net
Sorry for Offtopic
Actually, I have to confess...what I know about him even now is just based on what I've read and what others have said about him in online fs communities or social media, but I haven't even watched his famous programs yet.
If you don't know who Evgheni is, then you have no right to talk about him! Throughout Europe and Asia Evgheni had shows and was the headliner. Posters with him were posted everywhere. Tens of thousands of spectators came to see him.
Kings and Queens of Ice, in Bucharest, on October 7th
If you haven’t got a ticket yet, this might be an excellent moment to buy one. Because those four editions of „Kings on Ice” organized in Bucharest by Amphitrion – in 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 – have been, by far, one of the most emotional experiences of my life as a figure skating fan; and a proof
www.insideskating.net
Sorry for Offtopic
Sorry, no. They are pointing out rightly that we don't know Plushenko's coaching ability, no matter who pursued him or not.
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Then leave him alone to prove his abilities!
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