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has this really not been shared here yet or did i miss it? Alina is training a new competitive program, i assume FS. anyone know what the music is? her jumps look good.
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That's her Ex number that she planned to perform at the WC'20, Esmeralda; she's rehearsing it now for the "FS Lovers" festival gala that is planned for Nov 7.has this really not been shared here yet or did i miss it? Alina is training a new competitive program, i assume FS. anyone know what the music is? her jumps look good.
ah, thanks for clarifying. if she's still reeling off easy rippon flips and lutzes in a program, i'd say she's in a good spot to return to competition if she decides to.That's her Ex number that she planned to perform at the WC'20, Esmeralda; she's rehearsing it now for the "FS Lovers" festival gala that is planned for Nov 7.
has this really not been shared here yet or did i miss it? Alina is training a new competitive program, i assume FS. anyone know what the music is? her jumps look good.
I disagree. If you have seen her training videos, Rika is in good form and she doesn’t have any glaring deficiencies. We haven’t seen her in competitions yet this season so she hasn’t been able to show her programs. She is landing her jumps including a 4S in practice. If a World Championship is held next year, I don’t think it’s a guarantee that the Russian ladies will sweep the medals.I'm sorry you're right.
But no she is not at their level....yet.
Daniil mentioned in one interview that it was pleasantly surprising how good she was on ice given her lack of proper training hours nowadays (due to university, tv shows, etc), so if she indeed decides to return to competitions, she'll definitely be "in a good spot to return"ah, thanks for clarifying. if she's still reeling off easy rippon flips and lutzes in a program, i'd say she's in a good spot to return to competition if she decides to.
Really like this program for her as well and I'm excited to see her new free tomorrow!
Contemporary tango at its best. Well done, little black tiger cub, Adeliya Tigranovna
Is there already a separate thread on Adeliya Petrosyan
It wasn't you but another user did state very dimissively that Japanese ladies have more depth than Russian ladies which I think is why emotions escalated here.Also, Sasha herself is the only one who has skated at/close to her TES of last year. (Although I very very very much hope Anna gets her 4Lz and 4Lz-3T back and stabilizes her 3Lz-3Lo - sooo happy about her 4F - and that Alena gets her 3A back.) So, not that's not an objective comparison for this coming year - which was what I was arguing. All I was saying let's wait until they meet this year before pre-emptively declaring a winner and saying "second-best Russian skaters" could beat everyone else. Yes, maybe they could, but that's definitely not a given. Also, my comment with Japanese depth was in regards to it being hard to qualify for Japan's international spots. Every year, Japan leaves someone (or multiple someones) home who could easily b
Really you see no lies? I guess the question is who do you consider "second-tier Russian ladies"?
Didnt rusfed already say that they will somehow get skaters that could not do 2 stages into rusnats? One way or another?Russian Cup Standings after 3 (out of 5) events
1. Anna Shcherbakova 36 (will not compete again)
2. Daria Usacheva 30 (will not compete again)
3. Anna Frolova 28 (will not compete again)
4. Alexandra Trusova 18
4. Maria Talalaykina 18 (will not compete again)
6. Kamila Valieva 16
7. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 14
7. Maiia Khromykh 14
7. Stanislava Molchanova 14 (will not compete again)
10. Sofia Samodurova 12
11. Kamila Sultanmagomedova 10
11. Stanislava Konstantinova 10
11. Anastasia Gulyakova 10
11. Arina Onishchenko 10 (will not compete again)
15. Valeria Shulskaya 8
15. Elizaveta Nugumanova 8
Shcherbakova, Usacheva and Frolova through to Nationals.
Besides Alëna Kostornaia, there are six prominent ladies we haven't seen yet. Ksenia Sinitsyna, Evgenia Medvedeva, Anastasia Gubanova, Ksenia Tsibinova, Serafima Sakhanovich and Anastasia Tarakanova. They all need to show up at Stage Four or they will not qualify for RusNats. But I am beginning to suspect that we won't see them at all...And that means that probably Talalaykina and even Molchanova are through to Nationals.
But who knows, the RusFed might change the rules for submission to Nationals this year, or they might even scale down to just a 12 ladies competition (horrible thought!). Anything can still happen.
Next up at Stage Four is Trusova, Samodurova and Kostornaia.
Rika wouldn't have even sniffed a podium last year with 3A around. Will things change this year? Possibly. I only wish we get to see them in a competition together and that would be at Worlds and that's in great doubt for obvious reasons.Also keep in mind that Sasha, Anna, and Alena haven't even completed a full international season yet (due to COVID). I LOVE them but they haven't yet skated cleanly this year and were all struggling at Europeans last year. Also, (other than Kamila who is still a junior) Russian skaters ALSO aren't really competitive with Sasha, Anna, or Alena (it's not just other countries' skaters). It's not like Russia has 8 skaters at the level of their top 3. The other Japanese skaters are more than capable and competitive with the other Russian senior ladies and actually tend to score higher PCS wise internationally than all other Russian skaters with the exception of Evgenia, Alina, and Alena (two of which might not even skate this year and regardless aren't at their technical peak). Also, Rika actually is more than capable of beating every single one of Sasha, Anna, and Alena and has the TES and PCS to do so.
Finally, the initial statement wasn't who would medal. It was that other countries didn't have skaters "close to the same level" as Russian skaters nor "a lot of them in the same discipline" and that "second-tier Russians are better than other countries' top three" and I think that has been shown to be demonstratively false.
I agree with your Tier lists. 22 is very deep.It wasn't you but another user did state very dimissively that Japanese ladies have more depth than Russian ladies which I think is why emotions escalated here.
Honestly, I don't see how anyone could dis-count Rika as a contender considering she jumped a rotated 4S last season (fall but still rotated). I would definitely put her in tier 1.
For me, this would be the veteran trio of last season. My tier list would be as follows (please don't come at me, this is just for fun).
Tier 1 (230-250):
Anna, Sasha, Alena, Kamila
Tier 2 (210-230):
Alina, Evgenia, Liza, Daria, Ksenia
Tier 3 (190-210):
Maiia, Anna Frolova (also Vasilieva and Tarakanova but they may not be skating this year)
Tier 4 (170+):
All the well known girls who have trouble getting out of the country.
Sakhanovich, Gubanova, Guliakova, Tsibinova, Shulskaya, Talailaykina, Nugumanova etc.
Plus the ones who are inconsistent or had a bad season -> Konstantinova and Samodurova
And that doesn't even count the slew of amazing novices and juniors TT and Russia have coming up. Why? Medvedeva was never that good at that age imo, and she neeeever had those spins.I know everyone is saying it about Adelya but my God it really feels like I'm watching a mini-Medvedeva.