Well, at least then those 10% with correct technique would be awarded, and the rest will have motivation to fix their mistakes. I believe many skaters could fix their problems if only they had incentive to do so. Good entrances, position, etc. could still be rewarded, but the jump would get 1 or 2 instead of 0 for example.
Exactly, also jumping too many quads seem to have shaken up her triples.
I am no fan of Anna's skating. ( She is wonderful, just really not my style of skater give me Alena, Daria, Ksenia, Rika, even probably Sasha over her in terms of skating any day) but as a person she seems top notch. I really do think our criticism should end where the skating ends and never become personal. Keep in mind, she is a lovely, young lady at a fragile age. She seems intelligent, quietly competitive and mature. I love Sasha and Alena and think they both have charisma to the moon. But, Anna is a special human being.How i feel and think is not nonsense, it's how i feel and think and nobody is gonna tell me i should feel and think different than i do. You might think different, but that's your problem. I don't see anything special about her, there are more interesting skaters out there. For me, she is forgettable, and there's nothing you can do about it
Exactictly nick!
I disagree about Anna's edges and at least to me, there are more important things about jumps than who has textbook technique and who doesn't.
It is fine to disagree. I mean I think video evidence will show you what Anna's edges are like, but I don't want to argue about this. Especially because it makes me a bit sick when people bully skaters personally and that is happening to Anna right now. However, again, the issue isn't about Anna it's that judges aren't supposed to be making personal judgements about what they consider important. They are suppose to follow the rules. A jump with an unclear edge does not necessarily deserve negative GOE but the GOE should never be above a 3 because you need to reduce GOE by 2 points. I am not saying Anna should have negative GOE on all toe jumps but a skater with proper edge and excellence in other qualities should get a +5 on a good jump ( Let's say Rika's lutz she has good transitions and nice landings too/ maybe Liza's but she didn't necessarily have the transitions or nice landings) and a skater without a proper edge should have GOE that tops out at +2. It isn't the only important variable, but it is important... And that's not my opinion that's what the rules say
I would. A fair call is a fair call. If it hurts my favorites, so be it. The issue with edges though is that the rules are already defined. So, if something is in the rule book it should be applied.
I suppose that skaters are aware of these things and do try to use correct edges but maybe not everyone can jump with textbook technique and that's okay. Those who can should absolute get higher GOE but I'm against the idea of giving calls to everyone who doesn't have textbook technique.
The problem is people like you talk as if Anna has made 40 mistakes during the SP yesterday and Sasha or Rika preferred by you were crystal clear. No, they weren't and using this perpetual argument after short programs where Sasha, despite her supposedly superior technique missed combo and Rika had clear q/UR issues (not just alleged edge troubles claimed strictly by the usual suspects, but objective faults) is misleading, to say at least.
I fully agree, this is why I added that unfortunately none of them is good enough.
What a human you are is not relevant here. We discuss skating and sport. None of this has anything to do with what kind of person the athletes are.
You should tell that to some of the other posters.
There is an Austrian Alpine skier (Feller) who has the most awful skiing technique ever. It looks messy and he's all over the place, and the "expert" commentators always give him negative critique for his technique. But sometimes it works, and he wins. The goal is to have the fastest time, and that's what matters.
Your post didn't seem to be about figure skating. It seemed to be about Anna's personality. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were discussing, but it seemed to be saying that Anna's personality was boring and she was nothing special in terms of her personally not her skating. If you meant that you just find her skating to be boring or nothing special then that is something else.. we all have different tastes in art and skating and that is fine.
And what is beautiful or not and often even what is faulty technique is a matter of taste
Never should the anger be directed toward a skater. They don't score themselves. They just go out and do the best they can on any given day. But, I think it is fine to want more fair scoring that actually follows the rules. Judges should be held accountable for their choices and for not doing their jobs correctly just as we all are in our professions.And what is beautiful or not and often even what is faulty technique is a matter of taste
I understand people have preferences, but they declare a crusade against skater/bad judges based on it too often.
I agree about fair scoring, but disagree on people presenting this issue dominantly as somehow russian/Eteri thing, "nah, Eteri bonus", "russian bias" and all this. Just now the most problematic scoring/tech panel calls didn't concern Eteri or Russia yet it is once again the most pushed way of the conversation, but people should accept that sometimes those they don't like just deserve to win.
