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2021-22 Japanese Women's Figure Skating

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Thanks for the videos, @Zora

Rino Matsuike: I agree that her steps are great, and the moment from her LP you mentioned exactly is what I had in mind when I said some parts were cool. There's a great completeness to the way she performs, already. I didn't like the SP choreography, though.


Lol, yep.

Kaori: And here we see what she can do with a program that isn't crap. I think this is my favorite SP from her. The "epic" music is such a good idea with her speed and jump quality. Could really do with more extension in her transitions, though, for this program. Just chews up the ice with her steps, god.

Mana Kawabe: Like some of the ideas, and the steps capture pretty well at points. Definitely points from me when it comes to choreography and interpretation there. Again "simple" choreography that deserves that credit. Still, I don't think it's something particularly amazing overall, and the steps seem overly long (and the music cut in that part of the program really needs review).

Wakaba Higuchi: Huh. Who made this for her? I am happy to see this softer side to her... I think she needs to pay more attention and vary her skating with the music in it, though. She really only tried to do so in the steps. I hope it grows. Simply in terms of how happy I am to see a different side program, this one takes the cake for now. Something very Michelle Kwan's Exhibition-like about some of the choreo (did Buttle do this?)

Satoko Miyahara: I wish she didn't repeat this one. But I hated that Lyra Angelica. This one showcases that precise, refined Satoko everyone loves, but I find it too monotone (again, in Tosca, as much as I don't care for the choreo, there is variation and something new).

Nice to watch. Really loved the SPs and the LPs, even if my comments might not look like it. (... well, let's forget Kaori's LP)
Rino is so light on the ice she might float away. Lol.
 
IMO, Rino is clearly superior to Alysa Liu. Does anyone disagree? Or is it as obvious as I think it is?
 
to say Wakaba is a better jumper than Rika, and has better 2A and 3lo than Kaori lol
Of course better is subjective and opinion, as all skating pretty much is. I think we would agree that Wakaba has more power and height in her jumps and is more visually impressive than Rika, who is more correct with her edges and is generally more consistent with hers. I said nothing about the loop, which is Kaori's best jump. Wakaba’s 2A, when she goes for a big one, is indeed more vertically explosive and higher(which is what a 2A is traditionally supposed to be) and is more impressive to me than Kaori's. Kaori's is also impressive, but she jumps more out that straight up, which changes the whole shape of the trajectory, which is less impressive to me. Almost like a barrel jump, where you use speed instead of controlled jumping ability.
 
And I'd definitely say the 3Lo is better too. She just knows how to get that vault in edge jumps better than Kaori does. Both are better jumpers than Rika in terms of quality. Kaori is even more consistent.
 
Wait, when and where exactly is Rika going to debut her programs competitively? Skate Canada??
Could be.

Checking very quickly: since Mai only get 1 GP assignment (the new Italy one), she was also assigned to Warsaw Cup later on (Nov. 18-21). So this is not a swap, and I hope Mai still get to go to the 2nd CS.

(I am also worrying about Rika's situation. Hopefully it's just because of some other reasons such as the schedule/re-entry to Canada issues...)
 
(I am also worrying about Rika's situation. Hopefully it's just because of some other reasons such as the schedule/re-entry to Canada issues...)
I guess so. She also went to Orser only in August, so not too sure what's up. Don't think there have been updates, but hope all will be fine. I'd have thought she'd try to get mileage on her programs by now though. Debuting at SCI in an Olympic season, especially when the field is pretty stacked, doesn't sound great.
 
On the other hand, it’s nice that Mai and Kaori will get to compete together in the Oly venue. The two will be having busy schedule starting from Kinki blog this weekend, then on to AO, and Kaori will have SA afterwards. So praying that the two will stay healthy for the tight schedul.
 
On the other hand, it’s nice that Mai and Kaori will get to compete together in the Oly venue. The two will be having busy schedule starting from Kinki blog this weekend, then on to AO, and Kaori will have SA afterwards. So praying that the two will stay healthy for the tight schedul.
Absolutely! While neither is my favorite skater, they are both lovely and Mai needs more chances to compete and get a higher SB score for future GPs.

I don't know why anyone is surprised by Rika's withdraw. She is recovering from injury and just joined a new coaching team. Her going to the Asian Open would have been shocking. Withdrawing was expected!
 
On the other hand, it’s nice that Mai and Kaori will get to compete together in the Oly venue. The two will be having busy schedule starting from Kinki blog this weekend, then on to AO, and Kaori will have SA afterwards. So praying that the two will stay healthy for the tight schedul.
Actually, this is why I thought we'd see Kaori withdraw instead of Rika (granted I don't know the restrictions, if any, in place at Canada). Because SA is right afterwards. But either way, I guess we'll wait and see. I'm happy to get a first look at what the international judges will think of her LP.

For Mai, I hope she can skate to her satisfaction this season. I'm not a fan, although I do wish her the best with her health.
 
I don't know why anyone is surprised by Rika's withdrawal. She is recovering from injury and just joined a new coaching team. Her going to the Asian Open would have been shocking. Withdrawing was expected!
I was wondering why the heck she was flying out and back in again! Personally I thought it would be easier on the body to stay in Canada and do SC.
 
Based on the video of her titanic at the ice show a few months ago I wouldn’t be surprised if Rika has lost 3A and 4S and is trying to restore it before GP with Ghislain. I hope she is successful, if she shows up to even one competition without 3A she’s no longer lock for Olympics
 
Based on the video of her titanic at the ice show a few months ago I wouldn’t be surprised if Rika has lost 3A and 4S
I watched the video, and don't understand why you might think that? (I might be forgetting what exactly her condition was during worlds 2021, and why she delivered what she did)

But I think this isn't a particularly wise strategy. Changing her coaching team, and then not even showing up to test herself at a CS event seems very strange indeed (didn't have to be Asian Open, mind you - Brown is at Finlandia, and unless something's changed that I'm not aware of, he's going to be there with the TCC team, and he's also at Skate Canada this season). I can only hope it's not a bad injury, and she's just lagging a bit in terms of adjusting to her new coaching regime.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if Rika has lost 3A and 4S and is trying to restore it
She didn't jump for several months after WTT due to her rather severe back injury. She has been jumping for a couple of months now (I believe) but it might, indeed, take her a while to restore her 3A and certainly her 4S. Also, she would lose a lot of training time travelling to China for what isn't even a challenger event. It is just a Senior B. All the US skaters also withdrew.
 
And I'd definitely say the 3Lo is better too. She just knows how to get that vault in edge jumps better than Kaori does. Both are better jumpers than Rika in terms of quality. Kaori is even more consistent.
I don't even remember one 3lo that Wakaba did that is impressive (please provide one example if you're willing to). And Kaori has great 3lo almost every season. Great transition/speed and considerable height and length. Also there are height/length analysis from the camera technique for jump for several Japanese competitions. Wakaba is not really an impressive one compared to Rika or Kaori. Wakaba is powerful skater for sure. I was in Coc 2017 and I think she should win compared to Zagitova. But her strength is not edge jump. She's way better on luz
 
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