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They haven't decided whether this Worlds will be used to determine Olympic spots, right?
2021 Worlds are still on
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Doesn't sound like it.
So far no. But they are waiting for March, 1 to see who will compete and what to do with Olympic qualifications.
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If this will go ahead, I think it will be very different event in so many ways. What I see as the most problematic is that a lot of skaters havn´t even had the chance to qualify for WC because of no international events to attend to because of restrictions, so we might see less small countries compete, and some skaters have been heavily affected by closed rinks, while other have been much luckier and could train more normal.
I think there will be a huge gap between skaters because of the Covid-measures in different countries and how they have been able to prepare.
If several countries also would not send skaters, how will they fill the spots? Will they go ahead with less skaters, or will they bend the maximum 3 and 2 spots rule per country?
All though, I would really be enjoying watching the skaters, so if it will be held, I think we should just focus that there is even a championship and that we will see new programs. If worlds will be held, I think they should consider not giving ranking points for WS, and it should not count for OG because it will be really unfair for other skaters.
I think there will be a huge gap between skaters because of the Covid-measures in different countries and how they have been able to prepare.
If several countries also would not send skaters, how will they fill the spots? Will they go ahead with less skaters, or will they bend the maximum 3 and 2 spots rule per country?
All though, I would really be enjoying watching the skaters, so if it will be held, I think we should just focus that there is even a championship and that we will see new programs. If worlds will be held, I think they should consider not giving ranking points for WS, and it should not count for OG because it will be really unfair for other skaters.
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I really hope that ISU does something with minimums because athletes only had the chance to earn them last season (and it was changed in the middle of it) and maybe 4 events that took/will take place this year. Maybe decrease them or take into account those from 18/19 including junior ones. Is anyone keeping track how many athletes have them? Because with some skaters not coming and some not having earned minimums, the number of participants will be low.
I am wondering this too and what about new teams that haven't had an opportunity to get scores. Seems not fair to the athletes to not know how this will work. Do they all rush out to Challenge Cup to try to get them. So many unknowns!!
And if they do, there is a limit of participants due to covid protocols. And such situation is in every international competition where they are lucky to get.
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Junior skaters who are now senior eligible should at least be invited to get a spot, if they have achieved the current TES-minimums in an international junior competition. For example from the least JGP-season, where the judging is based on ISU-standard. I think it shouldn´t matter if the they got 49 TES in the FS in a junior or senior event. The technical elements counts the same, the only difference would be if they tend to award difficult elements in junior events, by giving generous GOEs, but I don´t think it´s a real problem. And such generous GOEs also exists in senior events 
I wouldn´t mind if they decreased the minimum either, but if i´m not mistaken, wasn´t the reason they changed it mid-season last year for the senior ladies, that there were to many qualified? All though, if several countries like Canada and Japan won´t attend, there will be more spots available.
I wouldn´t mind if they decreased the minimum either, but if i´m not mistaken, wasn´t the reason they changed it mid-season last year for the senior ladies, that there were to many qualified? All though, if several countries like Canada and Japan won´t attend, there will be more spots available.
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for pointers : Canadian long track speed skaters usually train as a national team. So they were able to bubble up in Canada... They had some oval issues though when the Calgary oval needed maintenance. But all of them were already together training. Ivanie Blondin, when the Calgary oval shut down, left for Europe... and trained there... So it was easy for Canadian skaters, who were already all bubbled up together, and had had some training, though not as optimal as European athletes to join the Netherlands bubble and compete.... They were saying not to expect too much of them, but actually, the medals are coming... slowly... Canadian Nationals were canceled because of the risks but also because athletes haven't had a chance to train. It is very variable from region to region... Granted that worlds are later, and that it is only 13 athletes concerned, and most likely, from only 2-3 areas in Canada (Ice dancers in Montreal, pairs and singles in Ontario (let's see if there is one athlete from Alaska 
) it is way less risky than Nationals. Also, the Canadian Olympic Comittee has always said that events that are olympic qualifiers would be attended by Canadian athletes as much as possible... That's why we see Judo athletes competing on the circuit as they need to gain points to get their olympic berths...
Now, the sweden bubble : what athletes have revealed is that Skate Canada will look carefully about the rules there. If they seem too flexible, they may not want their athletes to take that risk.
Finally, flights for sun destinations to/from Canada are now canceled until april 30th... Sweden is definitely not on that list... but travel is made very difficult in Canada right now. Only essential workers are allowed to travel... For others, it's really at your own risks... and there is a mandatory, supervised quarantine upon return, parts of it is at the expense of the traveler. In light of that, I wonder how it will work for athletes... it's definitely another burden for Skate Canada. Who would pay for the initial mandatory quarantine that is at the expense of the traveler? The athletes? Skate Canada? It seems like a small amount when considering 13 athletes, but there are coaches as well of course. What will the rules be? One coach per athlete maximum? In the end, money should not be a big deal, but I am just mentioning it because PM Trudeau has announced yesterday heavier travel bans and restrictions. In other words, I will believe it when I see it... at the same time, in other sports, some Canadians are competing... sometimes... so why would figure skating be short-changed?
) it is way less risky than Nationals. Also, the Canadian Olympic Comittee has always said that events that are olympic qualifiers would be attended by Canadian athletes as much as possible... That's why we see Judo athletes competing on the circuit as they need to gain points to get their olympic berths... Now, the sweden bubble : what athletes have revealed is that Skate Canada will look carefully about the rules there. If they seem too flexible, they may not want their athletes to take that risk.
Finally, flights for sun destinations to/from Canada are now canceled until april 30th... Sweden is definitely not on that list... but travel is made very difficult in Canada right now. Only essential workers are allowed to travel... For others, it's really at your own risks... and there is a mandatory, supervised quarantine upon return, parts of it is at the expense of the traveler. In light of that, I wonder how it will work for athletes... it's definitely another burden for Skate Canada. Who would pay for the initial mandatory quarantine that is at the expense of the traveler? The athletes? Skate Canada? It seems like a small amount when considering 13 athletes, but there are coaches as well of course. What will the rules be? One coach per athlete maximum? In the end, money should not be a big deal, but I am just mentioning it because PM Trudeau has announced yesterday heavier travel bans and restrictions. In other words, I will believe it when I see it... at the same time, in other sports, some Canadians are competing... sometimes... so why would figure skating be short-changed?
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ermm... i guess you are following ladies only...
I wouldn't want to watch men, dance and pairs with only Russia and Japan.... without USA, China, Canada and some others, those disciplines would not be that exciting.... and without all four disciplines well fielded, we cannot call that worlds.
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What do you mean by sun destinations? I've read about snowbirds flying to Florida/Arizona for vaccines purposes. Though I think those guys flew private/charter.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...-for-faster-covid-19-vaccine-access-1.5257752
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USA is not included on the restrictions. It's about Mexico and the Caribbeans
Ottawa annonce la suspension des vols vers le Sud et une quarantaine aux frais des voyageurs
Québec s’est réjoui de la nouvelle, qualifiée de «très positive» par la ministre Geneviève Guilbault.
www.ledevoir.com
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Correct, only watch the ladies. All the other disciplines, I watched maybe 10 minutes total in my whole life.
I keep forgetting that this is an ice skating forum and not a ladies ice skate forum.
Have no idea about the other disciplines, and I don‘t want to know. Ignorance is bliss. Haha
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Canada is looking likely to send skaters, and Japan is looking into the travel ban to investigate whether travel can happen safely and will send skaters as long as there is a safe bubble method in place, so we might have a relatively normal event.
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The words I want to use to respond to this line, I can't say, because there's preschool toys present.
Frankly, my stance is that if Worlds does go ahead, Russia shouldn't be allowed to come. They have proven over and over again this season that they cannot even follow the most basic preventative measures. The other countries should not have to be put at risk because one country's fed has decided the rules do not apply to them.
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I can assure you, the words you are thinking about aren’t even close to 1% of what I’ve already heard about me. Haha
But I will say this: any athlete worth their salt wants to beat the best. To be the best, you have to beat the best. If you win a medal at worlds, and you didn’t go through (or over) the Russian ladies, then it’s illegitimate and everyone knows it. No matter how much anyone pretends otherwise.
The above counts 1000 times more if you don’t even allow them to compete for some arbitrary reason.
Unless people are afraid of them and want to duck them, and not have to face them. What kind of athlete ducks their better competitors?
Ultimately, it’s better for the chasing pack. You become better by facing better opposition.
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well that's unfortunate... every discipline has something special about it...
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I’m am certain this is correct. Maybe when I retire I can get into the other ones. Hahaha
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When you find out, let me know as well.
I think it’s a fantastic idea too.
They are losing a ton of money on ticket revenue, this is a way to recoup some of it back.
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