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To be clear, I don’t have anything against the other disciplines.

I certainly like that there is something for everyone.

I am happy that the worlds are taking place for all the skaters.
No, I get it.

For a long time, I didn't watch pairs because I found it boring. It WAS boring. Then I was encouraged to give it another go, because... well... things change. Now I really enjoy watching pairs. The programs are better than they used to be.

All I'm saying is that it's worth the time to give the other disciplines a glance... at least the top flights... to see if you enjoy those.

If not, you're no worse off than you are now. Like I said, I find the current crop of ladies largely uninspiring, but I'm hopeful that my mind will be changed. I'm still going to try to watch the top flights.
 
Also am I the only one who :palmf: a bit when people pull their masks down beneath their chin to talk then pull it back up again? It's like a huge no-no and a great way to contaminate yourself. Remove the mask from one ear holding the loop then place it back when finished, never touch the front of the mask! Perhaps a mask wearing lesson should also be required on entrance to the bubble.
If they are speaking at a podium, well spaced from other people, use the method you describe. If you are sidling up to an employee in a grocery store to ask them where to find the snow peas, then KEEP THE MASK ON! Talking is a good way of broadcasting your breath and spreading viruses and germs. For those who say it is hard to talk with a mask on, this is not the time to be wordy or excessively polite. The clerk doesn't need to know how many stores you have been to looking for snow peas, what recipe you are making involving snow peas, or even to hear please. A simple "snow peas" accompanied by a :scratch2:or :shrug: gesture will do the job. And if they locate for you, you can show your appreciation with a :cheer2:or :rock: or just a simple thumbs up.
 
Tbh, I don't really feel comfortable with this whole thing, especially with this new strain. Maybe a virtual competition would work out? I mean I understand that sports must go on, but we're in a WORLD CRISIS right now.
 
Worlds is still on as of now. That certainly doesn't mean it will still be on as of March.:shrug:

I would loooove to see Jason skate Sinnerman again,:love2: but not at the cost of any skater, coach or official contracting COVID. That is a price too high to ask.

And it is *not* up to athletes or their coaches or their fans with gold in their dreams to decide how high the price is or whether the risk is worth it. It requires little courage, to me, to say "I want to take that risk". Frankly, I think it takes far more courage to say, "Okey dokey, world health crisis, I get it, no comps for now"

Medical professionals, not athletes, need to decide whether the risk is present. The athletes will then show their strength and courage in abiding by those decisions. And I agree with everyone else, if the comp does continue, one strike and you're out. Wear masks. (Properly.) Distance as directed. Stay in the bubble. And whatever else is required. *That* is showing true competitive spirit:clap:
 
Worlds is still on as of now. That certainly doesn't mean it will still be on as of March.:shrug:
True...but in some ways the idea of that is even worse. As a rule people like certainty and if it's cancelled again the let-down will be huge.

And if it gets postponed at the last minute will skaters be able to keep their fitness at top level for a month or even 2? 🤔
 
I don't know why this subject did not get resolved during the ISU meeting few days ago. What are they waiting on?

For someone else to throw the switch on the light-bulb, I imagine.

If I had to guess, they're probably going to be finalizing information and will be releasing updates on the bubble system, travel bans, etc. along with the minimums issue in a few days or weeks.

My guess would be that the ISU are waiting to see how the Australian Open tennis goes. (It starts tomorrow week). But, if the run up to the tournament is anything to go by, I don't think it will go well.

For me, it's still too early to be holding big events like this. Better to just write off the rest of this season, and concentrate on preparing for next season.

CaroLiza_fan
 
My guess would be that the ISU are waiting to see how the Australian Open tennis goes. (It starts tomorrow week). But, if the run up to the tournament is anything to go by, I don't think it will go well.

For me, it's still too early to be holding big events like this. Better to just write off the rest of this season, and concentrate on preparing for next season.

CaroLiza_fan
Why would the ISU be waiting for the Australian Open?

It's an outdoor event being held in a country where COVID is predominantly under control and being taken very seriously. All players had to quarantine for two weeks - and didn't we hear those spoiled little brats complain...

There are absolutely no similarities between the Australian Open and Worlds.
 
Looking at 7 day moving average the world is well past the 2nd wave maximum - it has reverted to November level, i.e. -30% daily cases from the peak. In Moscow the mayor has claimed recently that 50% of people have antibodies. Now add vaccination. In a month we might have a much better situation than what we had earlier this month. And as coronavirus is here to stay one has to live knowing it.

Keeping the worlds is a wise decision.
 
True...but in some ways the idea of that is even worse. As a rule people like certainty and if it's cancelled again the let-down will be huge.

And if it gets postponed at the last minute will skaters be able to keep their fitness at top level for a month or even 2? 🤔

I agree, last year, with the last minute cancellation, was such a let down😞 Of course I feel bad for these extraordinary young athletes, but I feel worse for the world and for people who contract COVID with serious repercussions. And it is impossible to predict who those people might be🤷‍♀️

And I truly hope medical professionals, and not skating functionaries who have stakes in the outcome or feel some sense of urgency related only to skating and not the state of world, are making these decisions.
 
Looking at 7 day moving average the world is well past the 2nd wave maximum - it has reverted to November level, i.e. -30% daily cases from the peak. In Moscow the mayor has claimed recently that 50% of people have antibodies. Now add vaccination. In a month we might have a much better situation than what we had earlier this month. And as coronavirus is here to stay one has to live knowing it.

Keeping the worlds is a wise decision.
Antibodies??
Many have been infected more than once.
Unless there is some medical evidence to back up that statement it’s complete fabrication on safety.
 
Worlds is a go??? You bet your life it is!
I just hope those cardboard figures stop throwing so many unwrapped toys and stop with the flash photography...And clear the arena before the gala.....They always try and sneak back in without paying..... (y)
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Antibodies??
Many have been infected more than once.
Unless there is some medical evidence to back up that statement it’s complete fabrication on safety.
I believe there are some new strains that have been proven to be something you can catch twice.
 
Maybe the ISU will just not use minimums this time and will let federations decide who they want to send based on number of spots.

Unless they count last season's minimums, it would be absurd to get strict about that when most skaters, including top skaters in some disciplines didn't get to compete at all this season.
 
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Antibodies??
Many have been infected more than once.
Unless there is some medical evidence to back up that statement it’s complete fabrication on safety.
There are 2 relevant questions: what is the share of those who have been infected more than once? "Many" is an emotional word without any material substance. To some folks 100 people is "many" - to others 1000 people is not "many" if we are talking about the base of millions. For Russia we have the official number of about 4 million coronavirus cases. Out of those about a million are in Moscow. The mayor talks about 50% of Moscow population with antibodies, i.e. about 7 - 8 million. So, the first question is how many of those millions contracted coronavirus more than once? "Many" does not say much to me. I don't have any stats for Russia. Maybe someone else has for their countries? The second relevant question is what is the distribution of the periods between the first and second cases? It's important to distinguish between the complications from the first one and the real second one. It's important that a person was healthy not only based on analyses but based on secondary symptoms. And then he got it once again.

If we have a small percentage of those who got infected more than once and out of those we have a small percentage of those who got infected for the second time within 6 months we could claim that it is reality rather than fabrication that there is at least half a year period of safety.
 
The ISU needs to be proactive here.

Needs to make sure they have a backup plan.

Go to every member and get assurances from the governments of a few that they will let in the skaters if need be.

Can‘t go in with a Sweden or bust strategy.

I am certain there are other ISU members who will be ready, willing, and able to host on short notice.

If need be, go get some assurances from non ISU members that have rinks available.
 
My guess would be that the ISU are waiting to see how the Australian Open tennis goes. (It starts tomorrow week). But, if the run up to the tournament is anything to go by, I don't think it will go well.
I would think the ISU are looking far closer to “home”. The Netherlands, where the ISU are running their own events.
 
Maybe the ISU will just not use minimums this time and will let federations decide who they want to send based on number of spots.

Unless they count last season's minimums, it would be absurd
to get strict about that when most skaters, including top skaters in some disciplines didn't get to compete at all this season.
They should just waive the minimums. Easiest solution.
 
Why would the ISU be waiting for the Australian Open?

It's an outdoor event being held in a country where COVID is predominantly under control and being taken very seriously. All players had to quarantine for two weeks - and didn't we hear those spoiled little brats complain...

There are absolutely no similarities between the Australian Open and Worlds.

Erm, lots of athletes and their teams coming from lots of countries to the one place to take part in a sporting event.

If that isn't similar, I don't know what is!

There is no doubt that Australia is in a much better state than much of Europe (largely due to you being wise and shutting your borders completely). But, it is events like this that are going to undo all the good work you have done. So, why take the risk?!

Yes, I realise that very strong precautions are being taken by the organisers of the Australian Open to try to make the event run safely. But the tournament hasn't even started yet, and we have already seen things go wrong.

I know it was held in a different country, but what happened in the qualifying event was very concerning. A match starting before one of the players had got his test result back. And then the test results arriving during the match. They were positive. Yet the match continued! What was the point in playing on?! The guy who had tested positive wasn't going to be allowed to continue in the tournament anyway due to the positive result, so he had nothing to gain from it. By going on to win the match, all he did was to make sure neither of them got to Melbourne. And in the process, he was putting everybody around him at risk. Pure selfishness.

Fast forward to when people started getting flown into Australia, and there were people who tested positive on arrival, resulting in 4 plane-loads worth of people having to go into strict quarantine. So much for "having a negative test result within X hours before departure" (I don't know what the exact number of hours that was required).

Hey, the fact that the players are yapping about being stuck in their hotel rooms and not being able to train just shows that they are not taking the virus seriously.

Since I don't follow tennis, I don't know how many players have contracted COVID during the past year, or how they caught it. But, look at how many F1 drivers have had it. A quarter of the grid! And look how many of them got it through going on holidays at a time when the rest of us were being told to stay at home. Admittedly, Sergio Pérez did have a valid reason for going back to Mexico between races. But, others didn't.

All of this shows that you can't trust people to do the right thing. And when you are holding a big event, you need EVERYBODY to do the right thing.

We all know the tennis tournament is a major money spinner for Melbourne (as is the F1 race). But, I am amazed that the Victorian government and the national government are allowing it to go ahead. (At least the F1 race has been pushed to the end of the season).

And I am really shocked that 30,000 spectators are being allowed to attend each day. Yes, I know that when you divide them up between all the different courts, that there will probably be sufficient space for social distancing during the matches. But, what about when they are arriving and leaving?

When you are in a good place (like Australia is), you shouldn't be doing anything to risk it.

And when you are not in a good place (like Sweden is), you definitely shouldn't be doing anything that could make things worse!

So, for me anyway, sporting events like these should not be happening until the global vaccination programme is complete, or at least complete in the relevant countries.

CaroLiza_fan
 
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