Oh come on. Have you read the topic? Two words: speed skating.
2021 Worlds are still on
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New ISU communication regarding minimum TES scores. Here's the link to download it. The number is 2370.
https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/...e-skating-championships-2021?templateParam=15
The following will solve a lot of issues discussed earlier:
1. Minimum Score The following general principles remain valid:
• The fundamentals of Rule 378, paragraph 3.
• The quality of skating at ISU Championships shall be maintained.
• The number of entries at ISU Championships shall be kept in the same range as previously.
Skaters/Pairs/Couples participating in the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021 must have reached the applicable Minimum Technical Elements Score (for SP/RD and FS/FD) as per the Announcement of the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021 and Communication no. 2332, point 4, i.e. SP/RD FS/FD MEN 34.00 64.00 LADIES 30.00 51.00 PAIR SKATING 27.00 44.00 ICE DANCE 33.00 47.00
1.1. Minimum Total Element Score –Validity extended to 3 Seasons The Minimum Total Element Score must have been achieved in the ongoing season (2020/21) or the preceding two seasons (2019/20 and 2018/19).
1.2 Junior Skaters moving to Seniors in 2020/21 A required Minimum Total Element Score achieved in an International Junior Competition during the three seasons as per paragraph 1.1 above is valid to enter the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021.
For new entrants who have not been able to get a test in those seasons there is a virtual solution.
https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/...e-skating-championships-2021?templateParam=15
The following will solve a lot of issues discussed earlier:
1. Minimum Score The following general principles remain valid:
• The fundamentals of Rule 378, paragraph 3.
• The quality of skating at ISU Championships shall be maintained.
• The number of entries at ISU Championships shall be kept in the same range as previously.
Skaters/Pairs/Couples participating in the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021 must have reached the applicable Minimum Technical Elements Score (for SP/RD and FS/FD) as per the Announcement of the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021 and Communication no. 2332, point 4, i.e. SP/RD FS/FD MEN 34.00 64.00 LADIES 30.00 51.00 PAIR SKATING 27.00 44.00 ICE DANCE 33.00 47.00
1.1. Minimum Total Element Score –Validity extended to 3 Seasons The Minimum Total Element Score must have been achieved in the ongoing season (2020/21) or the preceding two seasons (2019/20 and 2018/19).
1.2 Junior Skaters moving to Seniors in 2020/21 A required Minimum Total Element Score achieved in an International Junior Competition during the three seasons as per paragraph 1.1 above is valid to enter the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2021.
For new entrants who have not been able to get a test in those seasons there is a virtual solution.
There, that works.
Both Kolyada and Zhou are in.Not sure if I am to read paragraph 2 (in regards to Knierem/Frazier) as "Send in tapes if and only if you (the federation) have no other Pairs with tech minimums" or "if you (the Pair) don't have the tech minimums, then please send in a tape".
EDIT: I think it's "if you (the Pair) don't have the tech minimums, then please send in a tape", so no need to reply anymore, thanks!
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Oh my good, does this mean that Sondre Oddvoll Bøe could apply for the video evaluation as Norway doesn´t have anyone qualified for the minimum and he doesn´t have it himself? If I read it correctly it says skaters/pair/couples and skaters means individuals and not only pair and ice dance???
For the mayor's statement to be true, Russia would have to admit that there's a lot more of their people infected than they've reported (3 mil vs 72 mil) and thus their tests are not reliable and a negative test means nothing. Therefore, other countries should not let Russians in as it cannot be confirmed that they will not bring the virus in so there should be no Russians at worlds.
In conclusion, you don't want his statement to be true.
YES, I think it does. So happy for him as he couldn't go to any competitions this season. And it looks like he's been training well. He just has to send the free program and hopefully score 64 tech. He's been so close.......
By the way it would be cool to be able to watch all these videos as a warm up for worlds.
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Half of the population. Right
Reminds me Hugh Laurie's satiric protest song lyrics: "Everybody's dying, except the ones who are already dead."
Is it valid for all juniors or only for those, who were able to move to seniors only this season?
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Sorry, I haven't read that far. I decided to post it as soon as I saw it on the ISU site, haven't had time to study the detailed meaning.
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Looking at the results of the Sputnik V trials as peer reviewed and published in the UK medical journal, The Lancet, the Russians will be OK as long as they have had their jab.
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On the opposite - if this is true Russia has reached the level of collective immunity and the Russians are the least dangerous people in the world coronavirus wise because it is contagious only the first few days of the illness.
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Here's how I feel about this situation. If a Major Fed like Russia is banned from Worlds, then I'd call it something else. I feel the same way about ANY major federation being banned for whatever reason. These Worlds will have a big * next to them in the history books if this happens.
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It is an intriguing concept. Let WHO send a team to Moscow and pick 1000 people at random and check for antibodies and T cells. The Elephant in the room is an understanding of herd immunity. If a farmer has 100 cows in a pasture of 10 acres, and half are vaxxed, there may be herd immunity of some level. But if that same farmer has 1000 cows in a pasture of the same size, he may have a much bigger issue if only half are vaxed. What we call social distancing may be called something entirely different by a scientist, but the effect is the same.
Case in point is Israel. There numbers are dropping like a rock
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I think they must be at about 30 percent vaxxed now. But what ever they seem to be doing is working....
In the US, the cows had Thanksgiving, Christmas, Newyears, and now superbowl parties and many cows dont believe in masks...our cases are going down for the moment but deaths here in Spokane are still high.....
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It's not pleasant, but as long as they allow the skaters to compete without vague "reasons" why not to "invite" them (like Bukin and Stolbova at the olympics) it's bearable. Of course if they won't be allowed to play an anthem in case of victory, it can look humiliating (I still remember Alina's face when she had to listen just the olympic anthem in Peyongchang). Also it shouldn't serve as a way how to put another pressure on the athletes.
Let's hope after the two years of this "ban" will expire the situation will be quieter already.
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Geez Louise, *no country* can or will reach collective immunity without mass vaccination. Wishing and hoping something to be true doesn't make it true
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As for Worlds,
IF they keep all athletes in one hotel.
IF they don't let them out of the hotel or the rink.
IF they enforce social distancing.
IF they enforce mask rules.
One violation, you're out, too bad, so sad, no appeal.
Maybe they can pull it off. Maybe.
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IF they keep all athletes in one hotel.
IF they don't let them out of the hotel or the rink.
IF they enforce social distancing.
IF they enforce mask rules.
One violation, you're out, too bad, so sad, no appeal.
Maybe they can pull it off. Maybe.
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I have read the herd immunity was at 70% (sorry I don't have the source), I don't know how it was calculated and how true it was. Nevertheless, any % more people immunised tends to lowers the risks; although it may prove different for people vaccinated or equipped (in the CoViD 19 case) specifically to target zones of the spike protein and not the whole virus, because new variants (particularly the South African and the Brazilian variants; the three variants, having heavily mutated on this protein and not elsewhere, may have been "selected", involuntarily of course, either by vaccine trial or by a treatment both a mutagen and targeting this protein, like on this poor Boston patient who produced several mutations along his illness) may not be as much hampered as the viruses taken as bases by pharmaceutical companies.
And with the ADE and ERD effects, which may be the cause of the higher virus shedding by people who get the flu in spite of being vaccinated (and is likely to happen with CoVid though a little part of it have been addressed), it becomes really difficult to get an idea of what will happen. This article is very interesting, plus nearly all comments and links which complete it, particularly since tests about the new variants :
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/18/antibody-dependent-enhancement
Among the links provided, I found these two among the most useful :
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.18.423358v1.full
About shedding 6x more virus (flu case) :
Infectious virus in exhaled breath of symptomatic seasonal influenza cases from a college community
Lack of human data on influenza virus aerosol shedding fuels debate over the importance of airborne transmission. We provide overwhelming evidence that humans generate infectious aerosols and quantitative data to improve mathematical models of transmission and public health interventions. We...
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To sum up, we don't really know what will be the effects (positive or negative) on numbers of contamination, either of widespread natural antibodies from earlier contamination, or of widespread vaccination or antibody production device. Prudence is really key for everybody, this while the UK variant has 2,4x more affinity to ACE than previous ones and models of recombination between it and South African or Brazilian variant may have 13,5x more, which would make them really very contagious.
Plus, the 50% was for Moscow only, the most affected area, not for the rest of Russia (though all possible Russian Worlds skaters come from Moscow or St Petersburg I think?)
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They're managing it at Long Track Speed Skating...under these conditions, and some more added as to behaviour of coaches as well as athletes.
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I seriously doubt that Russia is close to herd immunity. It would be very dangerous to believe so. Even the one who have the virus should be carefull and follow the rules. They can be carrier of the virus or even get re-infected in rare cases
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I am not against the safety measures. Despite overall lenient approach to it in Russia after the first crazy quarantine, despite my going through coronavirus I wear a mask when required. And I think that if Russian skaters and officials have clear regulations in Stockholm they will surely follow them. The absurdity and idiocy of ideas to put yet another restriction on Russian team because there were lenient procedures in Moscow last November - that one excited me. And I would like to comment on the phrase in bold. From what I read in several sources those who are past the initial phase are not contagious to others. 7 days from first symptoms seem to be the standard. But as there some longer cases the recommendation is 14 days. Another way to understand your safety to others is the antibodies test. Having no IGm antibodies with IGg ones means that you are both past the disease and 99.9% not a threat to others. That's actually my personal case right now. But I still wear the mask just not to agitate other people.
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