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2023-24 Russian Grand Prix - Stage 6 - Moscow

Has Kamila ever bombed a SP without 3A?

I can't recall. She is money in the bank when it comes to the SP without the 3A.

She came close to hitting the boards though. She nearly hit the board two weeks ago when she did the disallowed combo, and also nearly hit the boards last year in the SP of the GP Final I think it was. I'm not sure how she can continue to take this risk one day it will ruin an event for her.
 
Dude, they gave Valieva 38.3... 38.3!! For missing her choreo queues and wobbling in StSq!! Poor Yametova, and presumably Muravieva. I cant believe it I dont know how I'm the only one commenting on this. I thought 36 was the absolute maximum judges could give with ultimate audacity... 38.3!?!?
I thought the 81 was deserved in Kazan, but not for this performance. High 70's though it just wasn't every inch perfect like in Kazan.

The same thing happened with her free skate last season after the Kazan stage, it was like she stopped rehearsing it and I think the same for this short program now. She knows she will get 80 minimum if it is clean so why continue to rehearse when the free skate is the weakness.
 
Pairs were near perfection ( nah they were perfect) ... and we can't say that Kostornaia and husband weren't good (in all countries except russia they would medal or be gold) .. They were good in all elements except in one element... and that's all it takes in pairs in russia.
They just ned to keep going because at this growing rate ...
 
Has the Kostornaia experiment ended? She would be better pursuing singles I would have thought. She would definitely be no less than 3rd place, instead second last in pairs.
 
Feel like my favorites Mukhortova/Evgenyev can't catch a break with these early start orders. Their skating skills and body movements are superb, that's my favorite SP of the season... and they skate clean and can never make the final group, sigh. I do acknowledge they could have more amplitude on their elements and bigger jumps, but their in between skating is really so much better than Khab/Knyazhuk and others.

Kostornaya is just wonderful. I can't believe how well they already skate. She looks really comfortable and fluid skating with a partner. It's very impressive. They just need to work on twist and levels. It's only their second ever competition. She needs to look at Osokina as an example, already doing so well after switching. The bronze medal position at Nationals is open. I don't think they'll be anywhere near this year, but by next year, with the sbs 3flip and throw 3flip, I wouldn't count them out.

I only discovered Zhdanova/Babaev-Smirnov last week but already love them... how amazing if they could get a bronze here.

In general, I am glad that Russian ice dancers remember that the 80s also happened in places other than the US and Great Britain and those other countries made some pretty good songs too (I imagine that's not the case in ISU competitions, but I have not watched).
 
Feel like my favorites Mukhortova/Evgenyev can't catch a break with these early start orders. Their skating skills and body movements are superb, that's my favorite SP of the season... and they skate clean and can never make the final group, sigh. I do acknowledge they could have more amplitude on their elements and bigger jumps, but their in between skating is really so much better than Khab/Knyazhuk and others.

Kostornaya is just wonderful. I can't believe how well they already skate. She looks really comfortable and fluid skating with a partner. It's very impressive. They just need to work on twist and levels. It's only their second ever competition. She needs to look at Osokina as an example, already doing so well after switching. The bronze medal position at Nationals is open. I don't think they'll be anywhere near this year, but by next year, with the sbs 3flip and throw 3flip, I wouldn't count them out.

I only discovered Zhdanova/Babaev-Smirnov last week but already love them... how amazing if they could get a bronze here.

In general, I am glad that Russian ice dancers remember that the 80s also happened in places other than the US and Great Britain and those other countries made some pretty good songs too (I imagine that's not the case in ISU competitions, but I have not watched).
Watching Kostornaya warm up, I was wondering whether she might make a comeback in singles-even without a 3A. She still floats across the ice at top speed, such beauty to watch her merely stroke around the rink. I think they are a very good pair, the problem is in Russia there are so many GREAT pairs.
 
Has the Kostornaia experiment ended? She would be better pursuing singles I would have thought. She would definitely be no less than 3rd place, instead second last in pairs.
She tried pursuing singles under other coaches, it didn't work out.
I think she is happier in another discipline.
 
Watching Kostornaya warm up, I was wondering whether she might make a comeback in singles-even without a 3A. She still floats across the ice at top speed, such beauty to watch her merely stroke around the rink. I think they are a very good pair, the problem is in Russia there are so many GREAT pairs.

I see long term potential with pairs. She could win these GPs as a solo skater in her 2021-2022 form, but there are lots of other girls doing ultra-c elements and eventually they are going to get it together and juniors will age up. In pairs, at least with their difficult sbs jumps they will have one of the higher BVs in the competition. They just need to clean up the levels on the other elements. Osokina/Gritsaenko are only in their second season and they already have two medals in the series and I expect they'll fight for bronze this year at Nationals (expect them to finish top 5). And IMO, you can still tell Osokina has a singles background and Kostornaya already looks much more like a pairs skater after just a few months, so the potential is there. It will be difficult, for sure, but there is more hope IMO. Pairs skaters are also older and have longer careers. They could get really good in a few years, if she has patience to stick it out. She is a creative person, and there are so many interesting shapes you can create with two bodies.
 
She tried pursuing singles under other coaches, it didn't work out.
I think she is happier in another discipline.
I just got around to watching their performance. If Kostornaia is really intent on becoming a pairs skater she should try to give it one last chance with a new partner for next season.

I think they've reached their limit as a couple, the only improvement now will be very tiny incremental gains that will be barely noticable. It was some what of a chaotic performance with no cohesion.

Kostornaia's only hope is to get a world class partner which might speed up her development.

The bad thing for them is if that they weren't 7th because it was a disaster skate, no they are just really bad as a pair team in every aspect of their performance. She needs a bigger partner, Marten lacks the strength.
 
I have absolutely no interest in men today. I consider some grades to be too high, others to be lower than expected. Judges always play their games, but today I'm not too keen to watch it.
 
I just got around to watching their performance. If Kostornaia is really intent on becoming a pairs skater she should try to give it one last chance with a new partner for next season.

I think they've reached their limit as a couple, the only improvement now will be very tiny incremental gains that will be barely noticable. It was some what of a chaotic performance with no cohesion.

Kostornaia's only hope is to get a world class partner which might speed up her development.

The bad thing for them is if that they weren't 7th because it was a disaster skate, no they are just really bad as a pair team in every aspect of their performance. She needs a bigger partner, Marten lacks the strength.
I have my doubts that you actually watched the same team skate as I did. I didn't see all the horrors you described. Besides, Alyona's partner and husband's name isn't Martin, it's Georgi.
 
I have my doubts that you actually watched the same team skate as I did. I didn't see all the horrors you described. Besides, Alyona's partner and husband's name isn't Martin, it's Georgi.
Well, honey you're not tired enough of BS scoring. When you will be you'll watch as if there were no scores.
 
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