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2024 JGP Ankara Men's FS

labgoat

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I had him in 3rd, but no Japanese gold this stage is better than my completely busted predictions
So many times I have the right skaters in the wrong places and 4-6 are usually bombos
 

Ichatdelune

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So... messy event, even for junior men. I wouldn't have thought that Jacob Sanchez, despite his PCS qualities, would win if a)he hadn't nailed the short and b)he wasn't going last thanks to said short, hopefully the remaining JGPs show a bit more cleaner skates for the men
 

lariko

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So many times I have the right skaters in the wrong places and 4-6 are usually bombos
I keep guessing all 5--not here, Gogitidze looked weird on the previous stage--but all in the wrong order. Heh, my season of predictions so far was super poor. But I enjoy the chaos more than predestined podiums.
 

Jumping_Bean

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A little reminder that Daiya Ebihara and Taiga Nishino lost their second JGP spots with scores that would have put them onto the podium here, but I digress. :frown:

Congrats to Jacob (making it difficult for USFS, I see, I guess Taira will lose his second JGP), Shunsuke (who likely just qualified for the JGPF) and Arlet. :clap:

Special shoutout to Ean Weiler, who increased his PB by over 40 points (!). Who saw that one coming? Certainly not me. 😂
 

lariko

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I want to watch free dance but it is almost 4:30 am here and I am getting sleepy. Thank you for watching Men's FS with me. So many promising skaters. It was fun. :love2:
It's 5:30 am here, so I am just getting up. Can't wait for Free Dance! I hope for all 3-way podiums.
 

labgoat

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I keep guessing all 5--not here, Gogitidze looked weird on the previous stage--but all in the wrong order. Heh, my season of predictions so far was super poor. But I enjoy the chaos more than predestined podiums.
Struggle is a good teacher. We will be well prepared for the pressure events later in the season.
 

lariko

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A little reminder that Daiya Ebihara and Taiga Nishino lost their second JGP spots with scores that would have put them onto the podium here, but I digress. :frown:

Congrats to Jacob (making it difficult for USFS, I see, I guess Taira will lose his second JGP), Shunsuke (who likely just qualified for the JGPF) and Arlet. :clap:

Special shoutout to Ean Weiler, who increased his PB by over 40 points (!). Who saw that one coming? Certainly not me. 😂
This is the drawback of the final being drawn by placement, not score. I think they should give 6th spot to a skater with the highest score if they have higher score than the 6th person. That way it would provide an incentive to keep athletes in the stages. Because I understand the logic of the Japanese fed, but it also reduces the number of entries overall.
 

elbkup

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Jacob!!!!:jump::yahoo::jump:
I had him in third and Arlet in first :drama: with Nakamura in second. Congratulations Jacob!!
 

Jumping_Bean

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He is another favorite of mine and this makes me sad as well.
Unfortunately, the US didn't have much luck at last season's Jr Worlds, so they only had 6 spots - With two medalists, four of those spots are already occupied by two skaters for maximum JGPF chances.

At least Taira got one JGP, sometimes this strategy ends up with skaters not getting to compete on the JGP at all because they were assigned to a late JGP in the first place.
 

Jumping_Bean

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This is the drawback of the final being drawn by placement, not score. I think they should give 6th spot to a skater with the highest score if they have higher score than the 6th person. That way it would provide an incentive to keep athletes in the stages. Because I understand the logic of the Japanese fed, but it also reduces the number of entries overall.
I wish scores were more than just tie-breakers but that placements still keep their importance as well because scores aren't always equal across JGPs.
Maybe somehow factor them with each other? I don't know, might have to do some experiments in Excel later :wink:

I'm also not a fan of the two-point jump between the top placements, it's kind of unnecessary. :scratch2:

This season the ice dance fields for example are so uneven across competitions, there will definitely be teams making the JGPF with much lower scores than teams who won't make it 😬
 

lariko

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I wish scores were more than just tie-breakers but that placements still keep their importance as well because scores aren't always equal across JGPs.
Maybe somehow factor them with each other? I don't know, might have to do some experiments in Excel later :wink:

I'm also not a fan of the two-point jump between the top placements, it's kind of unnecessary. :scratch2:

This season the ice dance fields for example are so uneven across competitions, there will definitely be teams making the JGPF with much lower scores than teams who won't make it 😬
That's why I was thinking, one spot in the running to account for any stages that were overstacked. Because say in Poland, we will have pretty tough competition for women, while in Slovenia, not so much.
 

el henry

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Watching live at 4 AM my time is not going to happen, but.....

Jacob:hap10::clap:

Another US men's skater I have loved and followed since he was 14 through ups and downs and ups and downs. And now an up!. Not a perfect skate, but enough of a skate. I guess USFS will need to bump someone to find him a second spot in the JGP.

His interview where he said previously he mentally feared the LP, and now he has conquered that, was interesting. Hope that the fix is permanent:pray:
 

Skating Bobr

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That's why I was thinking, one spot in the running to account for any stages that were overstacked. Because say in Poland, we will have pretty tough competition for women, while in Slovenia, not so much.
Are JGPs usually this lopsided? Like compare this JGP to the Czech JGP. That one was stacked as 6 skaters got over 200 points, and seems like China will be as well (Junior Men category) based on the current line up.
 

lariko

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Are JGPs usually this lopsided? Like compare this JGP to the Czech JGP. That one was stacked as 6 skaters got over 200 points, and seems like China will be as well (Junior Men category) based on the current line up.
It happens fairly often, since junior skaters enter competitions in waves, take time to establish--or not--have the growth periods when their performances drop, and some countries are harder to get to, and all sort of things.
 

saine

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Caught up on the men.

It was nice to see William Chan have a good JGP debut. His free is fun and he looked like he enjoyed himself out there.

I hoped that John Kim would be able to build off his free skate at Skate Ontario August, but it wasn't to be here. He wasn't able to make the JWC CTES here, but he got good PCS scores. It's his first JGP, and he'll age out after this season. Hopefully he can build on this after Wuxi for his senior career.

Also good to see Jacob Sanchez win here and being able to get past the first jump mistakes :)

I also liked Mark Kulish in the kiss and cry, he was cute getting his coach to sit back down before they could leave 😅
 
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