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Correct me if I am wrong....did they not say "no commentary"?
2026 Olympics Team Event: Rhythm Dance
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Team boxes being filled with coaches
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Rather look at her than Crackers try and do dance.Godawful camerawork but Piper and Paul
Meanwhile (sigh) my darling squirtle is not getting good comments re: her commentary and I do have to agree it shows that she does not know how to commentate ID
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Hope its a mild food poisoning and not norovirus....Please feel better soon. Chris who has lots of little green pills and anti acids....
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And just like that we can see the writing on the wall. Fear and Gibson will get bronze. Canada is going home medalless and I am guessing piper and paul just might retire here and not go to worlds being so discouraged. I am not saying Chock and BAtes shouldn't be firt second or third but that was pretty generous considering their lack of speed. The judges were harsh on Piper and Paul but that will be needed to keep them away from the bronze. It's clear its over for Piper and Paul. Ihope someone will remembeer this post and please Piper and Paul don't give up and please go to worlds. I know it is discouraging. I think they have been unfairly dropped. They could do better technically but they did enough to earn thrid here. I agree the Brits are the most entertaining but that should not be the key to a medal. But you can tell they want the Brits third. I wonder what would happen if P squared were coached by IAM. FB / C were delightful. And Fear and Gibson are definitely the crowd pleaser. But this 90's theme is not my favourite and honestly tiresome. Maybe we need the compulory dance again to focus on ice dance. i appreciate these men are fit and usually slim but showing their arms all the time is note aesthetically pleasing ofhen as they look small compared to the ladies. a better design might be sleeves. You look "fuller" stronger, bigger. But minor detail.
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My understanding is that they skated in reverse order of world standing.
The Brits just got a bunch of points from Europeans, while Chock and Bates and most of the other North American contenders did not skate at 4CC.
This event highlights the whole RD mess this cycle. This was skated 12 hours ago by the very best in the world, and I really don't remember much about it at all. And it's not the skaters' fault.
These themes just yield a slew of similar programs with similar content skated to similar music, and they all sort of merge together. The skaters deserve better, and as a longtime fan of the sport.... I deserve better, too.
I'm fine with the standings, and I'd be fine if they were completely reversed 1-10. Does it even matter if, like me, you're not really invested in one of the teams? I guess my only rooting interest is that I hope someone doesn't win, and it's hard to parlay pettiness into rapt attention.
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Thank you. Food poisoning. I am already starting to feel better.
Had I not read your post I wouldn't even know about it. (I was watching listening to Belinda Noonan last night on the Peacock venue feed. ) I just replayed the NBC version. Thankfully, Tracy Wilson stepped in and acted like a professional. I wouldn't expect any less from her.
I was scratching my head looking at Chock's right foot during her ending pose that wasn't really the end? In singles, a skater may get hit with a deduction for that loss of control - the foot moving forward not only once, but twice on the ice at the end. After the music stopped. Since the venue feed has been removed from Peacock, for all I know she did it 3 times. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it. A male singles skater got hit with a time deduction last season and I remember shouting "stop moving!" at my computer screen when he had movement after the music stopped. And he did get hit with a penalty. Maybe singles is scrutinized better for these things. It's mainly what I watch.
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Bless you, my friend. I have had norovirus 4 times...even at a skating event. (Cleveland nats) I now use hand sanitizers designed to penetrate the protein shell of the norovirus. 16 cruises and no food poisoning or norovirus....when you feel better, have a good Asian meal and stay hydrated.
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Until current technology is used in skating scoring, we are stuck with bad calls. Today I saw a lady skater get a "Q" that didnt deserve it. I played it back and forth on my big screen. It would be child's play to have three remote cameras film feet, triangulate them in space and time, calculate the direction of the landing, for instance, and the exact point the blade touches the ice, even without bluetooth boot sensors.... And as far as the takeoff direction, how you gonna calculate an edge jump takeoff angle???? So what we use now are old people peering into tiny screens from unknown angles for a few seconds. If I am wrong, then show me the difference between 85 degrees and 90 degrees. Line up 10 judges/ tech pannel types that can correctly tell the difference, and I will eat my words.
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Well done fantastic skates all.
Do we know which dance team will skate in FD without final score . They skate tomorrow after men.
Do we know which dance team will skate in FD without final score . They skate tomorrow after men.
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I don't know, it's my favorite discipline despite what I'm about to say, but ice dance has always had its issues and some of them seem to remain the same no matter how things change.
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Yes I noticed this on rewatch and was surprised it wasn’t commented on by the commentators on TNT sports cause it definitely would have cost marks for other skaters. But Chock and Bates don’t seemed to get docked for any error they make.
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Ah, thanks for the info. Yeah, I love ice dance, but the latest iteration of RD is just not doing it. I wanted to show my niece some ice dance, but ended up putting on ladies because I couldn't think of a program worth introducing her to the sport with. Not the fault of the skaters at all, the theme is just inane.
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Show her the 2010 Spanish program of Virtue/Moir. When I think of ice dance, that's the one!
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Listening to the CBC commentary and how is it that Carol Layne is doing ice dance commentary? Does CBC does not care at all about bias? Anyway, she has her perspective. But, I think what she thinks is C/B's weakness is actually what is keeping them ahead in the RD. Everyone else has 90s music that is very very recognizably 90s to the point of becoming repetitive after a few programs. C/B's program is different and highlights their strengths. Also, she said she didn't think C/B were performing that well. However, imho they (and possibly P/P) were the only teams who skated free.
Watching the competition again. I still don't get F/G's scores. They (especially she) appeared so tight here. P/P were more free here even if they still don't really have the right carriage for this program and G/F still looked imho to be the fastest team and they are the best pure skaters which really makes me questions some of their GOEs. The PCS I kind of understand because Marco looked a bit tight.
Watching the competition again. I still don't get F/G's scores. They (especially she) appeared so tight here. P/P were more free here even if they still don't really have the right carriage for this program and G/F still looked imho to be the fastest team and they are the best pure skaters which really makes me questions some of their GOEs. The PCS I kind of understand because Marco looked a bit tight.
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Carol Lane has done commentary for CBC for years. At times, indeed, her skaters are involved but not always. She's always been very clear that it's difficult to talk about her own students but I do find her insight often on point. She's not the only one who doesn't think that Chock and Bates are the most brilliant world champions ever
Of course, some other commentators do praise them and that's fine too. I wonder what the Italian commentators have said... and what about the French ? I am saying this because I often watch the French CBC commentary and nope, the commentator does not have any skaters in the mix but he is 100 times more biased than Carol is 
. CBC's audience, unless you are using a VPN and getting free access to a national network in part paid by my heavy income taxes (you are very welcome) is Canadian. So sure, they will sell their commentary that way. BTW : Carol has HUGE praise for LaLa and she could completely play them down if she were malevolent. She's actually quite fair IMHO.
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Everyone is biased. But, her bias here was very very clear. In terms of criticism, C/Bs like everyone else have their good points and their bad. I just found her particular criticisms to be the completely opposite of what I would say are their weaknesses. (although I do agree they are slower than G/F but so are P/P) Performance is how they get those golds and their RD is imho their strength not their weakness. I think her commentary was a bit pointedly trying to pick at what is their bread and butter. I would do that too if my team was constantly being beat by them.Carol Lane has done commentary for CBC for years. At times, indeed, her skaters are involved but not always. She's always been very clear that it's difficult to talk about her own students but I do find her insight often on point. She's not the only one who doesn't think that Chock and Bates are the most brilliant world champions ever
CBC's audience, unless you are using a VPN and getting free access to a national network in part paid by my heavy income taxes (you are very welcome) is Canadian. So sure, they will sell their commentary that way. BTW : Carol has HUGE praise for LaLa and she could completely play them down if she were malevolent. She's actually quite fair IMHO.
I also think that every one had tiny slip ups.. the French in the twizzles, Marco at the end of the twizzles, Lilah was very very slow in the twizzles, Paul on one turn in step sequence which cost him a level but the only one she highlighted was C/B. I don't think they are the best of all time either. They also aren't my favorites. I prefer the Italians by a lot. I like Piper/Paul equally ( used to love P/P when their programs were truly truly strange but their current material which the judges like more isn't my fave). I don't think any of these teams are the best of all time. I just think having her do commentary is questionable when her team is competing. Anyway, I love Tracy Wilson and Kurt is tied with Shoma for my favorite skater of all time. So, I do like the commentary in general.
By the way, thanks for your tax dollars. I appreciate it. I would not take advantage of your money if all programming was available in Taiwan but unfortunately not all of the programs are available from local broadcasters even though the YouTube stream is blocked. Which is a whole other problem that really calls into question how much the ISU really wants to grow the sport.
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today, I actually thought that Chock and Bates twizzles had very very little ice coverage and that they were quite slow compared to other top teams and they also had a bobble in the pattern steps. None of these mistakes, though minor, were punished. Paul lost a level, costly for the team with his mistake. The Italians shot themselves in the foot with a backstreet boy program. it just is a bad choice for them. As a matter of fact, there are very few programs that are interesting. I am biased too of course but I find that Piper and Paul with their catwalk program are actually bringing in some joy there. To me, that's a quirky and more original approach to most. It doesn't matter in the end. Nicholas Russell will keep holding them down so much that Lilah and Lewis, the weakest skaters in the top 5 (maybe even top 10) in the world will be on the Olympic podium for I don't even know why... but that's the way it is...
I don't care about a bias commentator... but biased judging is something else.
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Fair. C/Bs twizzles are their weakest element and I would have agreed if Carol mentioned that. However, if you notice they did almost cover the whole rink this time which is a big improvement over early in the season. Early in the season their twizzles were almost done at a stand still. I think they won the twizzles because unlike the other teams they had no visible error and they were faster than F/G. P/P should have won that element imho. The bobble in the pattern step did happen but it wasn't on a judged turn which is why they weren't punished. I like P/Ps program. I just don't think it works for Paul because he is too proper. I think we all agree that biased judging is a bigger issue than biased commentary. I just think there are a lot of other former ice dancers who could give more balanced commentary. But, this sport is not a beacon of fairness in the world and I still watch it because i love it so...it is what it is.
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