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Plushenko comes across much better in this interview than in the previous one. He still seems ... hummm... how to say this??? ... less than humble but his comments about the skaters are respectful. It is amazing that he is capable of building his own skating rinks. I certainly wish his skaters success, and a happy training environment. Hopefully, Aliona is able to successfully restore her jumps.
 
Plushenko's new great interview https://sportrbc.ru/news/5f2a970b9a79473bd48f99a2 -google translate

I believe the haters start the hara-kiri :laugh: He will be in figure skating for long years.

Two-time Olympic champion and figure skating coach Evgeni Plushenko told RBC about Alena Kostornaya's transition, working with Alexandra Trusova, the construction of two skating rinks and explained why he considers Vladimir Putin the best leader for the country

Evgeni Plushenko - two-time Olympic champion (2006, 2014), two-time Olympic silver medalist (2002, 2010). At the world championships he won three gold (2001, 2003, 2004), one silver (1999) and one bronze (1998) medals. He is a seven-time gold (2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2012) and three-time silver (1998, 1999, 2004) prize-winner of the European Figure Skating Championships.

In April 2017, Plushenko announced the opening of his own figure skating academy. In May of this year, Alexander Trusova, two-time world champion among juniors, passed to Plushenko. In July - European champion Alena Kostornaya. Both athletes left the group of Eteri Tutberidze.

In an interview, Plushenko said:

-what tasks does Alena Kostornaya set before;
-how and with what funds his academy will be developed in the near future;
-what is the main problem of Alexandra Trusova;
-why it is too early to compare Plushenko with Tutberidze;
-why did he record a video in support of voting on amendments to the Constitution;
-why withdrew from individual competitions at the Sochi Olympics.

Kostornaya starts from scratch


Last Friday, Eteri Tutberidze announced the departure of European champion Alena Kostornaya from her group to the Plushenko Academy. The Russian Figure Skating Federation said that in the coming season the skater will only be able to represent Sambo-70, where Tutberidze works, since the window for transitions has already been closed.

- How are you going to solve the problem with the official transfer of Kostornaya?

Alena started the training process in our academy. She skates with Sergei Rozanov. In parallel, we are preparing documents. Although the transfer window is closed, we expect to make the transition. We will speak this moment. I want to talk with the Ministry of Sports, with the Minister of Sports, so that Alena would be allowed to change the club as an exception. If we are met, it will be great. Still, Alena is the European champion. She does not want to be in that team and decided to join us.

- What if the transition is not allowed?

- At official competitions, she can skate for the previous club, and train with me. There are no obstacles to this.

- Kostornaya, like Trusova, initiated the transfer to your academy herself?

- One hundred percent. I read numerous comments, and people, it seems to me, are beginning to measure by themselves: supposedly some contracts were offered, something was promised, money was lured. Athletes are already old enough and capable of making serious informed decisions. And if they like to train in another place, if there are no roughnesses and frictions, they cannot be lured with any ruble.
When I was skating with Alexei Nikolaevich Mishin, I was offered to go to Tatiana Tarasova. The negotiations were led by Nikolai Morozov. I answered: "You have Lesha Yagudin." They told me: "We are betting on you." I thanked and refused, as I felt comfortable with my coach, whom I completely trusted.

When an athlete is old enough and he is doing well in the team, he cannot be lured away by any money. There is no need to measure and think only in rubles.

- Trusova wanted to go to your academy two years ago. When did Kostornaya first express such a desire?

- We started communicating with Alena two weeks ago on her initiative. Before that, no one contacted me, and I never crossed paths with Alena and did not know each other.

- Will Kostornaya have fundamentally new programs?

- We will completely change two programs and have already started work. We are negotiating with world-class choreographers. The only thing that stops the pandemic is closed borders. Let's get out of the situation.

- The task is to make Kostornaya an Olympic champion?

- The first task is to restore it completely. The girl has not skated for a long time. She came and does everything from scratch. The second task is to deliver cool programs and perform at the box office. Then we will talk about further plans. I like to go in stages.

Construction of two ice rinks is already underway

Now the Evgeni Plushenko Academy is based in Moscow, on Lobachevsky Street. The two-time Olympic champion rents the ice, but to avoid unnecessary expenses, he began building two of his own ice rinks.

- Are many skaters interested in moving to your academy?

- There are many who wish. Moreover, it is of a good level, although already now we have a large number of people - more than a hundred people.

In this regard, I decided to build two ice rinks. One is located in the south-west of Moscow, on Vostryakovskoe highway. The second one is in the region, in Gorki-10, next to my house. Now I rent ice on Lobachevsky street. But the academy needs its own base, its own skating rinks. The construction of both facilities is already underway.

- Are the skating rinks being built using your personal funds?

- Yes.

- How much will the construction cost?

- This is a lot of money. We are talking about hundreds of millions of rubles.

- What are the approximate terms of commissioning facilities?

- I do not like to point a finger to the sky. Contractors say they will build in six months. We will proceed from this. But I think that the process, like any construction site, will be delayed.

- Will the skating rinks be big?

- There are more in Moscow than in the region, but both are full-fledged training bases. In Moscow - a capital building with large halls and changing rooms, fitness, restaurant. In the Moscow region - a pre-fabricated frame structure. This arena will also have fitness, cafes, gyms.

- You said that the annual loss of your academy is 12 million rubles. Will the savings be significant if the school is transferred to its own skating rinks?

- The rent at the current location is very large. I decided to build skating rinks in order not to give money away just like that, but so that they work for the school.

- Do you have a business plan? Are you planning to bring the academy into a financial plus?

- I have no business plan. I set a task to educate Olympic champions, and it makes no difference how I come to it, with or without losses. I want to create very good conditions for my collections. I make one of the skating rinks in the region on purpose - outside the city you can hold training camps, run cross-country races and not go to Moscow at all, but be in a closed base. There will also be places to stay, rehabilitation and medical centers, food.

As for business, people and organizations after the academy classes can rent ice, which is not enough in Russia. I think everything will be fine in business too. However, I do not have the task of making a lot of money.

- But do you expect to earn something?

- After the opening of the skating rinks, in principle, it will be possible to earn money, to recoup something. Coaches, staff, light - everything needs money. To contain the same ice, you need at least 1.5 million rubles. per month. But before talking about money, you need to see what and how much it will cost.

- Is someone helping you? Are there sponsors?

- No one. Only mayor Sergei Semenovich Sobyanin helped, who allocated land for the construction of a skating rink in Moscow. Many thanks to him. This is serious support.

- Did you buy land for a skating rink in the region?

- For the second skating rink, I bought land from neighbors who lived next to my house.

- Can I come to your academy from the street?

- Yes. But we removed the basic training due to rental prices. Now we take those who have at least two years of figure skating training. When the skating rinks open, we will return the initial training group.

- What is the cost of training at your academy?

- You can study for free. We have a group for children with developmental disabilities - with cerebral palsy, Down syndrome. Also, children from large, low-income families and super-talented children do not pay for classes. The minimum price is 15 thousand rubles. per month.

- How many free seats are there?

- If a super-talented child comes, we will find a place for him.


Trusova's problem - psychology

Alexandra Trusova announced her transfer to Plushenko Academy in May. The athlete began working under the guidance of a new coach in June, and took place in Kislovodsk. Behind a little more than two months of joint activities.

- What are your impressions?

- It is interesting for me to move forward with a high-class athlete who does multi-turn jumps. Yes, Sasha is now at a transitional age. We are fighting with him. She is not easy, she has character. Somewhere we begin to fight among ourselves. But it normal. I remember myself and my great coach Alexei Nikolaevich Mishin. We argued with him, conflicted. However, this concerned sports. Sasha and I have about the same process. Today I am satisfied.

- And she?

“If she’s here, then she’s happy.” With Sasha, we put on two programs. Now we are polishing them, honing every movement, because for her these are two completely new images. She did not have such programs. The steps are very complex, close to the masculine. I think she will show new skating with them.

- Will Trusova become new precisely thanks to these programs?

- Yes of course. And thanks to a new breath, choreographic solutions, music, style.

- What jumps are there in these two programs? Is there a quadruple rittberger?

- We work both flip and rittberger.

- Transitions of Trusova and Kostornaya literally blew up the information space.

- I don't see any problem at all when an athlete switches to another coach. There are transfers everywhere. However, there are no such scandals. And here they start to inflate: "Wow, something critical has happened." Lesha Yagudin at one time moved from Mishin to Tarasova. Kulik moved from Kudryavtsev to Tarasova. And nothing.

- Trusova in terms of potential, in your opinion, the strongest figure skater in the world?

- This is undeniable. You just need to deal with psychology. This is something that she didn’t do before, especially in the last season, when she lost everything.

- In your opinion, the main problem of Trusova is psychological?

- I think so. She also needs to train correctly, develop a scheme. An enormous amount of work needs to be done. It seems from the outside that she is jumping quads and seems to be the best. Not. But now, I think, we are doing everything competently.

- Being a coach of Trusova is a big responsibility. If she loses to Tutberidze's pupils, it will be a serious blow for you. Do you agree?

- I always take risks - either everything or nothing. And in my life, in my career, I never got easy ways. Even if something does not work out, we will not be upset, we will move on. But I think we will be fine.

It's too early to match me with Tutberidze

In the spring and summer of this year, not only Trusova and Kostornaya, but also coach Sergei Rozanov, 11-year-old Veronika Zhilina, and eight-year-old Arina Parsegova moved to Plushenko's academy from the Tutberidze group.

- You said that it is necessary to change the situation in which many girls end their careers early. How do I fix it?

- It's hard. Girls grow up, become girls. When the little ones are 12-13 years old, I don’t want to spin. As soon as weight is added, the psyche, coordination moments, jumping technique are disturbed. You need to follow your diet and work even harder. Who overbears, he goes on. For example, Liza Tuktamysheva.

- Don't you think that one of the components of the problem is a low age qualification?

- I think it needs to be raised to 16 years old. It is from this age that you need to start performing in adult competitions. At the age of 16, skating is completely different, the sense of music, gesture and perception of the world in comparison with girls of 14 years old. These two years are very significant.

- In mid-June, the International Skating Union (ISU) recognized Eteri Tutberidze as the best figure skating coach in the world. Do you set yourself the task of winning this award in addition to raising Olympic champions?

- If I bring up Olympic champions, then I will already achieve something. I have never called myself the best. I always said: a good athlete. Now I want to be able to call myself a good coach.

- You said that it is worth noting not only Tutberidze, but her entire team. Is the setting of a case in her group a benchmark for you to strive for? Or maybe your academy is already superior to the Tutberidze group in some way?

- Eteri has a very well-established process and a really strong team. She was especially strong when Sergey Rozanov worked in her, a coach who gave many quadruple jumps. I am very glad that he made the decision to join my team. It's too early to compare me with Tutberidze. I only started coaching professionally last year. It has been working for a long time.

Nevertheless, we prepared Titova in a year. When she came to us, she was in 23rd place and did not do a single triple jump, did not even do an axel of 2.5 turns. Last season, Titova won the Russian and Moscow junior championships. This was done in five months. This is our small victory and pride, but we need to go further. We set the task to beat everyone.

- Are there promising boys in your academy? You said that now there are no men in Russia who are capable of competing for the highest places in international tournaments.

- There is. The same brothers Kirill and Nikita Sarnovsky. A talented boy from Izhevsk came to us. But they need time.

- Why are Russian men inferior to girls?

- Judging by my academy, boys, unlike girls, are afraid to do quadruple jumps. It’s a paradox, but it’s true. We are trying to overcome this barrier. There are certain improvements.

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In the other parts of the interview he was asked about his relationships with Putin, politics, and about his withdraval in Sochi. It's interesting but not in this thread I will upload in his fan thread.

I know he wasn’t asked about Aliona as much, but I just fear Aliona may be the forgotten one in the group, as it seems Sasha is his main priority [emoji17]
 
I know he wasn’t asked about Aliona as much, but I just fear Aliona may be the forgotten one in the group, as it seems Sasha is his main priority [emoji17]

At the end it could be Sasha would train with PLushenko while Aliona with Rozanov (even though it looked the other way around at the beginning).
 
I know he wasn’t asked about Aliona as much, but I just fear Aliona may be the forgotten one in the group, as it seems Sasha is his main priority [emoji17]

I can see them connecting more on a personal level, because he was also a skater who focused on jumps. However, I imagine he isn’t in charge of Aliona’s everyday training. That is likely Sergei who apparently has a good relationship with Aliona.
 
Plushenko comes across much better in this interview than in the previous one. He still seems ... hummm... how to say this??? ... less than humble but his comments about the skaters are respectful. It is amazing that he is capable of building his own skating rinks. I certainly wish his skaters success, and a happy training environment. Hopefully, Aliona is able to successfully restore her jumps.

:laugh: maybe you won't believe me but most of the time he is an easy-going man, peaceful person. He cares about his business you can't show me an example when he said opinions about any irrelevant things someone does this someone does that..etc. When he is asked in interesting thing he tells his opinion. And when he is offended or attacked he will response with strong words. :yes:

Thanks god he is not a humble person he wouldn't have been so succesful. His succes came from his personality. He always wanted to be the best, the first, the...only one :biggrin: He was not afraid of challenges. And he reached his goals all the time with hard workings.

His motto on his arm: Viam supervadet vadens- “the path will be overcome by the person walking it.”
 
Plushenko comes across much better in this interview than in the previous one. He still seems ... hummm... how to say this??? ... less than humble but his comments about the skaters are respectful. It is amazing that he is capable of building his own skating rinks. I certainly wish his skaters success, and a happy training environment. Hopefully, Aliona is able to successfully restore her jumps.

It is entirely dedicated to skating! Putting so much money into these skating rinks is overwhelming. He wants so much to achieve his goal. I wish him much success
 
:laugh: maybe you won't believe me but most of the time he is an easy-going man, peaceful person. He cares about his business you can't show me an example when he said opinions about any irrelevant things someone does this someone does that..etc. When he is asked in interesting thing he tells his opinion. And when he is offended or attacked he will response with strong words. :yes:

Thanks god he is not a humble person he wouldn't have been so succesful. His succes came from his personality. He always wanted to be the best, the first, the...only one :biggrin: He was not afraid of challenges. And he reached his goals all the time with hard workings.

His motto on his arm: Viam supervadet vadens- “the path will be overcome by the person walking it.”

I don't know Plushenko and I don't judge him in anyway ( other than not liking his previous interview about Alyona where I thought his comments were not wise or respectful). I have never questioned or even thought about Plushenko's business success, I am just surprised that skating rinks can be constructed with such ease. It would takes years of planning and hundreds of permits to do something like that in most countries.

At least we agree that he isn't humble �� . You obviously see that as a positive, but I think it is possible to be successful and humble. Many champions are both. Although, I think his confidence was likely one of his main charms for his fans when he was skating. Even I love "sex bomb" ��.
 
At least we agree that he isn't humble �� . You obviously see that as a positive, but I think it is possible to be successful and humble. Many champions are both. Although, I think his confidence was likely one of his main charms for his fans when he was skating. Even I love "sex bomb" ��.

Who is that? Who comes from western country? No one comes to close to him in titles, medals, victories...That is the most important in that meaning what I mentioned. There are great champions yes, but not the same. He was injured not once when he competed but he won. At his 11 he lived all alone for one years in St. Petersburg but he was strong and didn't give up he didn't run back to his adored, legendary mother who lived for thousand of miles from him in Volgograd....
 
plushyfan, thank you for sharing the interview.

it seems like its going to be crunch time between now and test skates for her. if they are still looking for choreographers they won't have much time to train or settle in with the programs.
i've also read more than once now she hasn't skated in a while...does anyone know the timeline on this? did she stop when she told Daniil she didn't want to train with them anymore?

also, interesting comments on Trusova. i'm excited to see her new programs.
 
plushyfan, thank you for sharing the interview.

it seems like its going to be crunch time between now and test skates for her. if they are still looking for choreographers they won't have much time to train or settle in with the programs.
i've also read more than once now she hasn't skated in a while...does anyone know the timeline on this? did she stop when she told Daniil she didn't want to train with them anymore?

also, interesting comments on Trusova. i'm excited to see her new programs.
I think so because i doubt they would let her skate nor do i think she would want to skate in such an atmosphere ,

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plushyfan, thank you for sharing the interview.

it seems like its going to be crunch time between now and test skates for her. if they are still looking for choreographers they won't have much time to train or settle in with the programs.
i've also read more than once now she hasn't skated in a while...does anyone know the timeline on this? did she stop when she told Daniil she didn't want to train with them anymore?

also, interesting comments on Trusova. i'm excited to see her new programs.

According to Daniil, if I remember correctly, she trained till 16th july, the next day she felt ill and at 18th she told she is leaving. So if that is correct and she didn't skate since then, she probably was off the ice for about three and half week.
 
According to Daniil, if I remember correctly, she trained till 16th july, the next day she felt ill and at 18th she told she is leaving. So if that is correct and she didn't skate since then, she probably was off the ice for about three and half week.

ugh, not good. 3+ weeks on top of quarantine time, almost 3 months off.
 
Who is that? Who comes from western country? No one comes to close to him in titles, medals, victories...That is the most important in that meaning what I mentioned. There are great champions yes, but not the same. He was injured not once when he competed but he won. At his 11 he lived all alone for one years in St. Petersburg but was strong and didn't give up he didn't run back to his adored, legendary mother who lived for thousand miles from him in Volgograd....

This is off topic. But, I was talking about champions in all sports. I don't need a lecture on the greatness of Plushenko but thank you for your translation of the interview it was interesting and informative. My post was rather meant in jest, I am sorry if the humor didn't come across in the writing. You can certainly believe Plushenko is the greatest champion ever. Others may disagree.. no problem. Importantly, I look forward to seeing good results and interesting programs from his skaters.
 
plushyfan, thank you for sharing the interview.

it seems like its going to be crunch time between now and test skates for her. if they are still looking for choreographers they won't have much time to train or settle in with the programs.

Yes, this is what I‘m worrying about too. Realistically, the best time for such a situation is now but I think we‘re looking at a few tough months. She‘ll hopefully figure it out eventually but it‘s a lot of stuff to take in and adapt to - and she‘s already late in terms of timing. Let‘s hope she‘ll manage to present some mostly finished programs (strictly in terms of choreography, she won‘t be exactly comfortable with them yet) with relatively stable 3-3s at test skates. Then she can figure out the rest from there on.
 
ugh, not good. 3+ weeks on top of quarantine time, almost 3 months off.
You mean all together . Since the pamdemic? You mean quarantine time from comimg back from the trainings camp? I think that she did that in 2 of those 3 and a half weeks. Before those 3 weeks she had been at trainingscamp for a few weeks and from what we heard had excluding the 3a her jumps back

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How many of them, comparing to complains about other skater (when both lutzes were getting the equal numbers of ! sign by the judges)? Even that your comment is just telling how you are subjective, when you didn't get what i was saying in first place.

She jumps a total of 5 lzes short+free, so the point advantage she receives from those not being properly ruled as e or even ! is enormous and incomparable to any other skater with edge issues on the lutz. Hence, why people criticize her lutz so much more than other skaters'. Or maybe... it seems to be so bcs delusioned fans deny her weaknesses more often and people get into long arguments :sarcasm:
 
You mean all together . Since the pamdemic? You mean quarantine time from comimg back from the trainings camp? I think that she did that in 2 of those 3 and a half weeks. Before those 3 weeks she had been at trainingscamp for a few weeks and from what we heard had excluding the 3a her jumps back

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i mean alltogether. i'm pretty sure they were off for about 2 months when rinks were closed and then another 3+ weeks recently in her transition = about 3 months off total. that is a ton of time for a skater to miss.
 
"Utkin: “Kiselev's wife is very friendly with Tutberidze. Isn't that why in the story with Kostornaya she is again all in white lace?Journalist Vasily Utkin reacted to the words of support from TV presenter Dmitry Kiselev to figure skating coach Eteri Tutberidze.

Kiselev called the situation with the transition from Tutberidze to Yevgeny Plushenko of the fugristers Alexandra Trusova and Alena Kostornaya from Tutberidze to Evgeny Plushenko, saying that "her school was literally robbed."

“Today, the situation with the departure of Tutberidze students was commented on by Dmitry Kiselev, TV presenter, deputy chairman of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company and the head of Russia Today. Read, everything is in the best traditions there.

He defends Tutberidze not for the first time and not for the first day in fact. In the organizations under his jurisdiction, it is forbidden by instructions to write and speak about Eteri Georgievna anything more critical than a hypothetical statement that her sweat smells of honeysuckle.

Repression happened. I will not name names, this applies to other people - up to the dismissal in three days.

Kiselev's wife is very, very friendly with Eteri Georgievna. Is this why we are now looking at the story of Kostornaya's departure, and by her example we are convinced: well, one does not fight with the other, a lot of omissions, again Tutberidze is all in white lace, well, it cannot always be like this? .. Or maybe "- wrote Utkin in his telegram channel."

https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-...-govorit-o-tutberidze-chto-libo-kriticheskoye
 
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