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Alena Kostornaia

Wishing Aliona the mildest case possible and a full recovery without lasting effects. We must remember this is Rusfed, they claim the test came back positive today, but who knows if that’s actually true - she may actually be further into her quarantine. I find it hard to completely trust them given everything this season, so I wouldn’t rule out this possibility. They also said she can resume training after she receives 2 negative tests - doesn’t seem like they necessarily observe the same 2 week quarantine as everywhere else...which is also not surprising given the COVID situation spreading across the National team. It’s too hard to predict how the rest of the season will go for her or anyone else, so for now I will just think positive thoughts and hope she makes a full recovery.
 
The problem isn‘t qualifying to Nationals. At this point, they have no athletes if they only let those compete who skated at two cups. The problem is that she‘s now in quarantine for at least two weeks. Nationals are in about three weeks. There‘s no real way she can get back in form to compete there. Such a shame. I at least hope she has a mild form of the virus and doesn‘t get seriously ill.

Get well soon, Aliona! :pray:
So many skaters are affected by covid-19 other illnesses besides Aliona. I think it's time for the coaches of the skaters to talk sternly to the Russian figure skating Federation and demand that they back up Russian Nationals 2 or 3 weeks for the safety of the skaters and well-being of the skaters and coaches.. this would give the skaters who are not well right now a chance to recover and do some training. Otherwise I'm going to be missing some superb skaters at Nationals in a couple weeks. For Aliona to quarantine for two weeks and then only train a few days before Nationals is risky business. One might call it playing Russian Roulette with your career and life.
 
Wishing Aliona the mildest case possible and a full recovery without lasting effects. We must remember this is Rusfed, they claim the test came back positive today, but who knows if that’s actually true - she may actually be further into her quarantine. I find it hard to completely trust them given everything this season, so I wouldn’t rule out this possibility. They also said she can resume training after she receives 2 negative tests - doesn’t seem like they necessarily observe the same 2 week quarantine as everywhere else...which is also not surprising given the COVID situation spreading across the National team. It’s too hard to predict how the rest of the season will go for her or anyone else, so for now I will just think positive thoughts and hope she makes a full recovery.
I too wish Aliona speedy recovery but more importantly a full recovery.

The rusfed screwed this whole thing up at their GP event. Other figure skating federations like America Japan Korea are not having their national teams ravaged by covid. The parents of many of these kids sick should be pistol of the Kingdom come.

How can AK be in any form for nationals in 2 weeks? If she wins it it will be hard for her to have any greater win in her career.
 
Wishing Aliona the mildest case possible and a full recovery without lasting effects. We must remember this is Rusfed, they claim the test came back positive today, but who knows if that’s actually true - she may actually be further into her quarantine. I find it hard to completely trust them given everything this season, so I wouldn’t rule out this possibility. They also said she can resume training after she receives 2 negative tests - doesn’t seem like they necessarily observe the same 2 week quarantine as everywhere else...which is also not surprising given the COVID situation spreading across the National team. It’s too hard to predict how the rest of the season will go for her or anyone else, so for now I will just think positive thoughts and hope she makes a full recovery.
This two week quarantine OR two negative tests is how my place of work manages return to work criteria for employees who have tested positive and the only transmission we've had between employees was for field testing where the customer showed up unannounced and got everyone sick. For context, I work at a VERY large company, more than 12k people alone in my city/site. So to have no reports of transmission inside the facility is fairly significant. I don't question that this is good policy. I think it is because the WHO and CDC have all but proven asymptomatic transmission is nearly impossible, and that if there is not enough viral load in the body to test positive, there is definitely not enough to transmit to others. So this makes sense. No need to prolong your downtime if you are not actually contagious.

On the other hand, I wonder if it is not just because of the Grand Prix event, but also other factors. Working with Karisma no doubt put her around a bunch of people. Though, I will say letting ANYONE from TeamTut into the Grand Prix event so close after Zhenya getting it (and *unconfirmed* but also Anna) was probably quite reckless as well. Alina, Kamila, Daniil... all of them had to have had contact with Zhenya and Anna.

Or perhaps it is only that she tested positive and is not ill. Elon Musk tested positive on a sample taken from one nostril and negative on a sample taken from another. The PCR test was recently banned for use as a diagnostic in a country (Ecuador?? The name is evading me as I type this) and has a notably high false positive rate. Most diagnostic tools require they be run a certain number of cycles to "amplify" the virus, so for covid, it is around 30. Any higher and the test will start giving back a significant number of false positives. The UK medical staff have been advised to run them in the 40's. This makes no sense, the tool is being misused. So many factors to consider when we talk about what Aliona testing positive actually means.

It is also possible it is strategic, no? Say she has tested positive to give an excuse for her absence and use the four-five days to really train where she would be unable to? That's really quite a significant amount of time. She did podium at the Rostelcom which was essentially a Russian Cup event, and had top Russian Cup competitors, so I imagine they'll accept the result there as if it were a Cup qualifier. Though, if they do that, they may have to accept the results for other athletes, which may skew some rankings? I've not been keeping up with the points.

If she is in fact sick, though, it would be horrible news, and I hope that it is simply one of the scenarios above. What a rough season for her. ):
 
This two week quarantine OR two negative tests is how my place of work manages return to work criteria for employees who have tested positive and the only transmission we've had between employees was for field testing where the customer showed up unannounced and got everyone sick. For context, I work at a VERY large company, more than 12k people alone in my city/site. So to have no reports of transmission inside the facility is fairly significant. I don't question that this is good policy. I think it is because the WHO and CDC have all but proven asymptomatic transmission is nearly impossible, and that if there is not enough viral load in the body to test positive, there is definitely not enough to transmit to others. So this makes sense. No need to prolong your downtime if you are not actually contagious.

On the other hand, I wonder if it is not just because of the Grand Prix event, but also other factors. Working with Karisma no doubt put her around a bunch of people. Though, I will say letting ANYONE from TeamTut into the Grand Prix event so close after Zhenya getting it (and *unconfirmed* but also Anna) was probably quite reckless as well. Alina, Kamila, Daniil... all of them had to have had contact with Zhenya and Anna.

Or perhaps it is only that she tested positive and is not ill. Elon Musk tested positive on a sample taken from one nostril and negative on a sample taken from another. The PCR test was recently banned for use as a diagnostic in a country (Ecuador?? The name is evading me as I type this) and has a notably high false positive rate. Most diagnostic tools require they be run a certain number of cycles to "amplify" the virus, so for covid, it is around 30. Any higher and the test will start giving back a significant number of false positives. The UK medical staff have been advised to run them in the 40's. This makes no sense, the tool is being misused. So many factors to consider when we talk about what Aliona testing positive actually means.

It is also possible it is strategic, no? Say she has tested positive to give an excuse for her absence and use the four-five days to really train where she would be unable to? That's really quite a significant amount of time. She did podium at the Rostelcom which was essentially a Russian Cup event, and had top Russian Cup competitors, so I imagine they'll accept the result there as if it were a Cup qualifier. Though, if they do that, they may have to accept the results for other athletes, which may skew some rankings? I've not been keeping up with the points.

If she is in fact sick, though, it would be horrible news, and I hope that it is simply one of the scenarios above. What a rough season for her. ):
I really want Alena to show up to nationals better than ever but I don't think they can lie about the covid test result. It would be a huge scandal if it ever came out and I don't want any more hate for her.

I think the best case scenario we can hope for is that she actually tested positive a week or two ago and has been asymptomatic enough to do off ice training at home.
 
:pray::ghug::love:Just want to offer my best to Aliona for a quick complete recovery .. it would mean everything to those of us who love her to see her back, spirits high, enjoying to the full what she does best!
Despite recent competitions keeping us focused we miss her!!
 
Anyone else concerned with so many sick recently with coronavirus or pneumonia lady skaters and pairs skaters for Russia are going to the Russian Nationals in a couple weeks in an atea where it could be 50 degrees below zero? My question to the medical people here is it safe going to this super cold place coming off pneumonia or Coronavirus? I really would wish they would back up Russian Nationals two or three weeks so more people can fully recover.
 
I am glad she may come back after two negative testings. I'm sure it was a true positive (though the more cycles you do with the sample, the more false positive you have) because she has lost her sense of smell, two days before the announcement. "Only" 2/3 of those who lose smell and/or taste have CoViD (while 90% of those who have CoViD do lose smell and/or taste, which is a rather low rate of false negative, a test free, efficient and which one can do everyday) but if she tested positive I think the probability is very high that she is indeed infected. I hope she has no other symptom at all, and she loads herself with vitamins C, D3, K2 and Zinc, and she takes hydorxychloroquine and an antibiotic with antiviral properties AND has heart and lung monitoring. And, of course, I hope she can come back very soon and lose very little time in retrieving her skating. I'm happy Angels of Plushenko have recruited a doctor and I hope she can follow the case.

One could confirm or infirm it only by analysing which strain contaminated each of the recent positive skaters, but I am under the impression that that gala dinner after Rostelecom Cup (a gala dinner without precaution at such a moment!) may well have been a spread event (and it is not necessary to seek a "spreader" we know : it can be somebody from the staff, or the teams; indeed it is more likely because no skater was symptomatic, and asymptomatic people are very little contagious). If she got it then, and knowing that the later the symptoms appear, the shorter they last in general (from a survey), she may test negative rather fast, maybe she already did. But I was already furious after RusFed, I am even more so now that contagion happened. They seem to forget they have the care of minors. And I too am somehow dubious at Anna Shcherbakova's pneumonia : should she test positive, we should know it, but was she tested at all? I hope she's really recovered now, and nobody else was ill!
 
Anyone else concerned with so many sick recently with coronavirus or pneumonia lady skaters and pairs skaters for Russia are going to the Russian Nationals in a couple weeks in an atea where it could be 50 degrees below zero? My question to the medical people here is it safe going to this super cold place coming off pneumonia or Coronavirus? I really would wish they would back up Russian Nationals two or three weeks so more people can fully recover.
I’d like to see the Russian Nationals pushed back to February, and the Worlds pushed back to April or May. I know the Europeans haven’t been cancelled yet, however they’re on shaky ground.
 
I’ll take your idea and run with it. It's time for figure skating changes on the fly.
Well the Head of the FFKKR has been reported as stating there won’t be any changes to the timing of the Nationals, so there goes my wish. I hope the link below works:

 
Well the Head of the FFKKR has been reported as stating there won’t be any changes to the timing of the Nationals, so there goes my wish. I hope the link below works:

well with thir organization they clearly stated that COVID19 is a myth, so nothing new :palmf:
 
Well the Head of the FFKKR has been reported as stating there won’t be any changes to the timing of the Nationals, so there goes my wish. I hope the link below works:

What can you say? the Russian Federation and figure skating organizations are in the dark ages. They are reactive and not proactive.
 
What can you say? the Russian Federation and figure skating organizations are in the dark ages. They are reactive and not proactive.
well, i hope that Aliona and everyone else affected by sickness or missing training time for any reason stays realistic going into this competition and doesn't hold themselves to high expectations. just go out there and do the best you can, that's the only thing they can really control.
 
well, i hope that Aliona and everyone else affected by sickness or missing training time for any reason stays realistic going into this competition and doesn't hold themselves to high expectations. just go out there and do the best you can, that's the only thing they can really control.
I care for her to be well.
I don't (I suppose we all don't) mind about results now.
I could never take any competition seriously this year honestly, I always watched for the pure pleasure of seeing skating.
But skating his her life and brings her joy, so I hope she can be back soon stronger than ever.
 
It's really nuts they did not backup Russian nationals for a couple of weeks. Please athletes many of whom have been sick with covitt or pneumonia after fly many hours to Siberia words going to be 50゚ below 0 probably and that's a health risk in itself being out in that kind of cold.

I can only wish Alina well and to skate well and to stay well. But going to nationals will be a risk for the health of the skaters
 
UPDATE: Europeans has been canceled as of a few days ago. So yeah, they could back up Russian Nationals a few weeks because the next major international competition is Worlds in March that may or may not happen. But yeah, with Tuktamysheva, Kosternaia, Aliev and Medvedeva testing positive and Shcherbakova having pneumonia (we think) I don’t see why not. These are all contenders for the world team (and title) and if they can’t go to Russian Nationals, they probably won’t be able to make the world team unless some exceptions are made, but these I guess athletes need something to strive for, but I don’t think that this should be it
 
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