Alina Zagitova

[voolfee]

Also can someone explain me what was changed that some people write that Lz-Lo combination was removed? It’s a combination only Alina and Anna asi mostly consistent, and it’s a beautiful stuff, why would anyone go against it. I am lost why some combinations would be banned?

Nothing will be banned. Only 3Lz now costs 0.6 points less, so 3Lz-3Lo began to cost 0.6 points less. But I don't think that this is a big problem for Alina.

 

[flanker]

You can repeat two jumps (triple or quad), can’t you? Which means she could do 4F and 3Lz two times, like she was doing all that time expect instead of quad it was triple. I doubt that was changed? If only one repetition was alowed then skaters would have to jump way too many of doubles.

Also can someone explain me what was changed that some people write that Lz-Lo combination was removed? It’s a combination only Alina and Anna asi mostly consistent, and it’s a beautiful stuff, why would anyone go against it. I am lost why some combinations would be banned?

The BV of the 3Lz was reduced from 5.9 to 5.3, on the same value as 3F (similarly 4Lz's BV was reduced the same value as 4F). Therefore, the combo 3Lz-3Lo has just 0.7 point higher BV than 3F-3T thanks to the BV of the 3Lo is 0.7 point higher than 3T. And both combos have the same GoE now. So it was not removed, but thanks to ISU proactiveness it may not pay off.

 

[paji15]

Yes, of course, I don’t know what came over me.

I get you. I’m sometime like “yeah of course” too.

Nothing will be banned. Only 3Lz now costs 0.6 points less, so 3Lz-3Lo began to cost 0.6 points less.

The BV of the 3Lz was reduced from 5.9 to 5.3, on the same value as 3F (similarly 4Lz's BV was reduced the same value as 4F). Therefore, the combo 3Lz-3Lo has just 0.7 point higher BV than 3F-3T thanks to the BV of the 3Lo is 0.7 point higher than 3T. And both combos have the same GoE now. So it was not removed, but thanks to ISU proactiveness it may not pay off.

Thanks. I would seriously like to speak with ISU executives who makes the rules. Their changes make no sense. Like absolutely no sense. How is Lutz suddenly an easier jump than all those years? Let alone, all top skaters has two Lutzes, which means it will not help anyone. Expect create bigger gap between triple ladies and quad (with other than 4Lz)/3A ladies maybe. I love figure skating but I so dislike ISU.

 

[JazzUp]

Previously unreleased footage of Alina in a Shiseido spa salon

 

[zounger]

Also can someone explain me what was changed that some people write that Lz-Lo combination was removed? It’s a combination only Alina and Anna asi mostly consistent, and it’s a beautiful stuff, why would anyone go against it. I am lost why some combinations would be banned?

My comment was ironic. As for the beauty of Alina's 3lz-3lo, there is not much to discuss. This is Alina's trademark, she looped her way to all her victories and will continue to do so.

 

[voolfee]

Thanks. I would seriously like to speak with ISU executives who makes the rules. Their changes make no sense. Like absolutely no sense. How is Lutz suddenly an easier jump than all those years? Let alone, all top skaters has two Lutzes, which means it will not help anyone. Expect create bigger gap between triple ladies and quad ladies (with other than 4Lz) maybe. I love figure skating but I so dislike ISU.

Quad ladies also jump three 3Lz in their programs, except Trusova who jumps two. And Kostornaya jumps two. This is good more for those who have problem with an edge on the lutz and who jump only one 3Lz in two programs. This is Medvedeva and Sakamoto from the leaders.

 

[flanker]

Thanks. I would seriously like to speak with ISU executives who makes the rules. Their changes make no sense. Like absolutely no sense. How is Lutz suddenly an easier jump than all those years? Let alone, all top skaters has two Lutzes, which means it will not help anyone. Expect create bigger gap between triple ladies and quad (with other than 4Lz)/3A ladies maybe. I love figure skating but I so dislike ISU.

BTW in pairs 3Lz had the same BV (5.3) as 3F even before, but there it makes little difference thanks to pair elements. Somehow somebody saw it and thought that it could be a good idea to equalize the jumps in singles as well...

 

[JazzUp]

New "Alina Number of the Day"

From teamzagitova: In the poll of the Japanese FS fans on which skaters have impressed them most/gave them joy and tears/gave them strength, Alina is No.5 (after four Japanese ladies) and the first foreign skater in the list.

 

[paji15]

BTW in pairs 3Lz had the same BV (5.3) as 3F even before, but there it makes little difference thanks to pair elements. Somehow somebody saw it and thought that it could be a good idea to equalize the jumps in singles as well...

Oh didn’t know that! Like I do agree it doesn’t make sense to have the same value in one categorie and another in other one. But maybe it would be better change it in pairs. Not that it make any difference as I am not sure anyone jump either 3F or 3Lz in the program.

Those rule changes are weird though. It’s like they are sitting there and looking at each other (on zoom call currently) and are like ..guys lets change something so it looks like we are productive and can go home. If they better thing about the fact that 3A is allowed in short but quads are not lol ... but no we are not going there. This is Alina’s thread.

By the way, I’d love if Alina could do workout videos as a colab with Puma. She have this perfect calm vibe yet pushing while excercising. I would definitely add those videos into my fav list.

 

[taylor1]

I'll wait for the complete layout, but I think 3Lz-3Lo is too much a prestigious combo for Alina, threfore I think she will keep it. And of course I hope for 4F.

Although, here is an idea:
4F-3T, 4F, 2A, 3S, 3Lz-3Lo, 3Lz-2T-2Lo, 3F.

love this layout but i don't think we'lll be seeing a 4F considering by the time they get back on the ice they won't have a lot of time to learn new jumps before the season starts

 

[paji15]

love this layout but i don't think we'lll be seeing a 4F considering by the time they get back on the ice they won't have a lot of time to learn new jumps before the season starts

That depends. The key is when they will be able to get back on the ice again and how far she got pre-covid. In case she would already land it, even once, it can work as a psychologic effect in going back. Also, it seems like there will be no shows, which means once she get on the ice, it will be mostly uninterupted time. No two weeks of prsctices followed by two or more on shows.

I also think coming back will be hard for every skater and it will be extremely difficult to just maintain the quality of the jumps they had pre-break. So more likely there will be no jump upgrade or how season goes. On the other hand .. if they manage to start somewhere around the summer than it will most likely be the longest uninterupted time since pre Olympic. Depends on so many factors, and learn it will be now harder than ever. But she also might be “hungry” for more. We’ll see, to be honest I’m just looking forward to see her skate. I wish she could learn quad so she can keep winning and making the team easily, which for her must be important to matter what, she is used to it, but as a fan, I know her program will be mesmerising quad/3A or not. She is improving so much, no matter whether it’s on skating and artistry or difficulty.:luv17:

 

[JazzUp]

New addition to Alina meme collection

 

[zounger]

That depends. The key is when they will be able to get back on the ice again and how far she got pre-covid. In case she would already land it, even once, it can work as a psychologic effect in going back. Also, it seems like there will be no shows, which means once she get on the ice, it will be mostly uninterupted time. No two weeks of prsctices followed by two or more on shows.

I also think coming back will be hard for every skater and it will be extremely difficult to just maintain the quality of the jumps they had pre-break. So more likely there will be no jump upgrade or how season goes. On the other hand .. if they manage to start somewhere around the summer than it will most likely be the longest uninterupted time since pre Olympic. Depends on so many factors, and learn it will be now harder than ever. But she also might be “hungry” for more. We’ll see, to be honest I’m just looking forward to see her skate. I wish she could learn quad so she can keep winning and making the team easily, which for her must be important to matter what, she is used to it, but as a fan, I know her program will be mesmerising quad/3A or not. She is improving so much, no matter whether it’s on skating and artistry or difficulty.:luv17:

It's a bit premature to talk about quads, when even the season is not definite if it will go as we all knew it. Skaters are still at home with some exceptions and Russia is still in the middle of the pandemic.

On the quad subject, I would say the quad lutz might be more feasible than quad flip, because of the necessary speed needed to perform a quad in Alina's case. On the coming back: will not be easy but Alina showed multiple times that she can reach the desired form in a couple of months. Last season she was failing in some jumps at shows in late June and early August and in a month, in September, we all saw how she was at test skates. So I don't worry much there.

The important is to do everything from a safe point to avoid injures and not rush. This season needs a lot of patience. Controllable risk to enrich the technical arsenal. Next season is the important one as TAT implied. I don't know if Alina wants to pass through all this. Not for my selfish desire but I strongly believe she can and that it's worth it to seek this route.

 

[BabySloth]

Alina turns 18 tomorrow. (Sorry for the early birthday celebration )

It's crazy that I've been following her since she was 15. It's only three years but it feels like much more than that for some reason.

She has come so far. I hope she enjoys her last day as a "kid". Although she's probably a bigger adult than I am at 21 with all the things she has experienced.

 

[paji15]

It's a bit premature to talk about quads, when even the season is not definite if it will go as we all knew it. Skaters are still at home with some exceptions and Russia is still in the middle of the pandemic.

On the quad subject, I would say the quad lutz might be more feasible than quad flip, because of the necessary speed needed to perform a quad in Alina's case. On the coming back: will not be easy but Alina showed multiple times that she can reach the desired form in a couple of months. Last season she was failing in some jumps at shows in late June and early August and in a month, in September, we all saw how she was at test skates. So I don't worry much there.

The important is to do everything from a safe point to avoid injures and not rush. This season needs a lot of patience. Controllable risk to enrich the technical arsenal. Next season is the important one as TAT implied. I don't know if Alina wants to pass through all this. Not for my selfish desire but I strongly believe she can and that it's worth it to seek this route.

It’s early to talk about it, especialy when there are no clear sighs of the next season, on the other hand, isn’t it what forums and discussions are for? There are always calculations and discussions whether certain athlete can jump 7/8m in long jump, 6 in pole vault, win MVP in NBA or Stanley Cup. That’s kind of what sport is about. And Alina is star of hers. Especialy now more than ever, there are analyses and speculations, because that’s all sport world have. Together with endless amout of special interviews and workouts athletes do at this time to help maybe just a little. :luv17:

You know, I will love her the same whether she will have one, two quads, different or the same, in her program or stays with triples. I will even love her the same when she decides to never come back into competitive skating. Quad is sure a topic. In my opinion she has everything to done that. Her triples are enormous. And whenever I am like - yeah but it might be too hard for whatever reason, seeing her entries into her triple jumps is just enough for me. Those entries from which she is able to perform giant triple are so crazy that I do believe with easy entry, she must be able to rotate one more. But ... be able and actualy do that is not the same. It’s completely up to her. Both whether she will be able to do that or will even try. I will always cheer her the same.

(And I do pray for skaters to be able to came back to the ice soon, because from all the athletes, they are probably affected the hardest. But don’t get me wrong, I totally know and respect that there are much more important things those days than sports and public events.)

 

[Scott512]

Alina turns 18 tomorrow so will she celebrate with a glass of white wine? Probably not. I do so hope she has a good birthday party although with the quarantine she'll probably be limited with people

 

[Finley]

From FSO -

“Figure skating needs flowers” ​​- Japanese readers are infinitely happy to include Zagitova in the national team

- Figure skating needs flowers. Mao-chan, Chania and Zagitova ... once on the ice, they give birth to paintings. I was worried that the younger generation would not be able to see this, but now it has become easier on my soul.

https://inoprosport.ru/post/31411-f...-sbornuyu?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com

 

[zounger]

From FSO -


- Figure skating needs flowers. Mao-chan, Chania and Zagitova ...

Chania is a beautiful town in Crete. Hanyu is not bad either.


P.S. Just the inclusion in the team doesn't mean much. Actually it could have been scandalous if she wasn't independently if she will compete or not.

 

[Finley]

From Sports.ru, Alexei Yagudin quote -

Olympic champion Alexei Yagudin expressed an opinion on the possible return of Alina Zagitova to the competition, as well as on the composition of the Russian team for the next season.

“Firstly, she never went anywhere. She paused her career. Who knows, maybe during this time, which she devoted to numerous shows, she missed amateur sports and is now training in order to return.

 

[JazzUp]

Alina will be on 1TV on her birthday

Tune in to 1TV's "Good Morning" show at 09:30 Moscow time here: https://www.1tv.ru/live